Training - Friday 22 April, 2016

[sisso 2,431]

2 minutes ago, It's Time said:

I think the cap has made endurance more important than speed and he has elite endurance. He can also read the game and anticipate where to run to ahead of time. However, there still has to be a minimum amount of speed for a runner like him. Just hope he gets it back. 

I think having him and Dom Tyson in the same midfield would make us a bit too slow. Since he last played we've recruited a lot of midfielders so perhaps they'll use him off half back or half forward if he makes it back.

[hardtack 10,186]

22 minutes ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

Its all about how CP5 responds now. He can sook in the VFL and miss even more weeks, or bang down the door completely to confirm his spot for round 6.

Garlett in the side brings more to the team, but I am disappointed we wont see trac on the big stage,

You will see him on the big stage, just not this week. I get the feeling we will see him debut next week against the Saints, all going well in Casey's game tomorrow.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,021]

51 minutes ago, stuie said:

Next week mate, next week.

[Its Time for Another 4,058]

1 minute ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Next week mate, next week.

I gather by the arm around the shoulders he's a bit upset. Be patient son and stay off the basketball court.

 

[ArtificialWisdom 3,958]

1 minute ago, It's Time said:

I gather by the arm around the shoulders he's a bit upset. Be patient son and stay off the basketball court.

 

Big thing for him, would first time in his life he has been fit and not picked in a side. Could be good for him give him even more motivation 

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Just now, ArtificialWisdom said:

Big thing for him, would first time in his life he has been fit and not picked in a side. Could be good for him give him even more motivation 

Hopefully not sook it up like many of his generation do when things are not handed to them.

[brendan 3,421]

If he debuts against the saints at etihad it will guarantee a bigger crowd 

[ArtificialWisdom 3,958]

Just now, AzzKikA said:

Hopefully not sook it up like many of his generation do when things are not handed to them.

haha I'm part of that generation  But being a melbourne supporter since birth has taught me things are never handed to you.... Unless you follow Hawthorn or Geelong then they just hand out flags whenever you want them

[ArtificialWisdom 3,958]

2 minutes ago, brendan said:

If he debuts against the saints at etihad it will guarantee a bigger crowd 

I have had this thought also. Good news is the top deck will be actually be open so i'll be able to see the damn game instead of sitting down the bottom and seeing nothing.

[hardtack 10,186]

7 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

Hopefully not sook it up like many of his generation do when things are not handed to them.

I wouldn't want to be his Williamstown opponent tomorrow night.

[Flemo56 389]

Saw one of the coaches take Hunt aside and have a word too him, Hunt sat down and looked a bit upset, no idea what was said and not presuming anything , just looked as if it wasn't good news. Hunt then went too boundary and did a few runs by himself. First time ever at a Dee's training in Melb, Burleigh Heads a few years back only other time. Garlett looked fine. Tracca, wow, tree trunk legs, can't wait for his debut. Spencil looks ready as a backup for the bearded one, hopefully not required. 

Still a long way too go but we look too finally be on the rite track. Very scarred as a Dee's supporter and will not predict anything for the future, been burnt too many times. At least we aren't favourites against the yellow stripe, tfft. 

[martin 727]

Any doubt on Tyson? Watching the replay again he felt for his hamstring on a couple of occasions. Bug fan of Hunt but being replaced by Petracca for this game wouldn't be the worst thing.

[PaulRB 6,085]

If Hunt received some "bad news", would imply ANB may be playing..? 

[Copuchas 756]

any clarity around the status of Stretch for this week?

[AzzKikA 2,371]

6 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

haha I'm part of that generation  But being a melbourne supporter since birth has taught me things are never handed to you.... Unless you follow Hawthorn or Geelong then they just hand out flags whenever you want them

You would be 1 in a million.

4 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

I have had this thought also. Good news is the top deck will be actually be open so i'll be able to see the damn game instead of sitting down the bottom and seeing nothing.

Can't stand the top deck, feel like i will topple over the edge at any time, oh and you can't see a thing when the ball goes near the boundary in front of you.

[What 18,810]

3 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

If Hunt received some "bad news", would imply ANB may be playing..? 

 

13 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

I have had this thought also. Good news is the top deck will be actually be open so i'll be able to see the damn game instead of sitting down the bottom and seeing nothing.

 

Its our home game..   its a joke its at Etihad but a Tracca debut will definitely boost crowd numbers 

[ArtificialWisdom 3,958]

1 minute ago, AzzKikA said:

Can't stand the top deck, feel like i will topple over the edge at any time, oh and you can't see a thing when the ball goes near the boundary in front of you.

I cant comment on the falling thing dont get that, but i do get the boundary problem but id rather not see 5m closer to the boundary (or stand a little) and be able to see the other side of the ground. I feel like down the bottom you cant see the other half of the ground. Regardless I think 2nd level is best, close and high enough to see but thats always reserved because of all the $$$ 

[ArtificialWisdom 3,958]

3 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Its our home game..   its a joke its at Etihad but a Tracca debut will definitely boost crowd numbers 

I Know right! I would understand if they had to get Etihad game numbers up  but that same weekend Carlton plays a home game at the G.... Why cant they just swap them so both teams get to play at their actual home grounds?

[Redleg 38,437]

4 hours ago, olisik said:

Jeffy will always give a better return then a debutant 

Always, rubbish. 

 

[nutbean 8,837]

I'm not one for conspiracy theories ( can you feel a however coming ?....)

 

however.....

 

I vividly recall prior to the draft last year Petracca said to StKilda (reported in the Hun)... "I have X factor and you will not be sorry taking me as no 1 pick"  - or something very similar to that. Interesting that by all reports he has been earmarked for his first game against StKilda..Would it enter the match committees thinking that the man with a liberal dose off arrogance may have even more to prove first game if it is against the team that basically overlooked him ?

I actually think that the timing of his fitness coincides with the StKilda game but I do love a good conspiracy..

[leucopogon 1,494]

52 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

I can see the headline now. After saying Petracca only plays if Garlett does not, Melbourne plays Garlett and Petracca and it goes pear-shaped leading the Herald Sun to write "Roos rues ruse". Just a pity it's not against North Melbourne which would have allowed the inclusion of an extra 'Roos'

Nice. Sorry to go off topic but I've been waiting all week for a headline of "AFL to drop draws on Grand Final day". Apologies if this has already been published and I missed it.

[DubDee 21,899]

I reckon Petracca will be ripping the yellow pages apart right now

I get the feeling Roos and the coaches are doing this to Trac on purpose to keep his arrogance in check.  god knows the dees of 3 years ago would have played Trac in round 2 and brought on the fanfair.  thank god we are being run like an actual proper club now

[picket fence 15,735]

3 hours ago, nutbean said:

I'm not sure why posters were poo pooing other posters on the notion of "resting" Oliver.

Roos openly admitted that they "overplayed" Brayshaw last year.

First year players like Oliver come in after the preseason has already started and then are limited in the work they do in that preseason. 

To expect them to be able to cope with a full season of the rigors of AFL in their first season is folly.

We as posters have no idea how footballers are physically travelling but as much as I love Oliver in the team I have no problem going back to Casey for "rest".

For those who are also saying that if you are fit enough to play Casey you are fit enough to play AFL, I ask you to consider why there are so many footballer we have seen who do so well at VFL but can't make a fist of it in the AFL. VFL is a good vehicle to get competitive match time, miles into the legs and hone the skills, but reaction times, skill levels, physically  and aerobically there is a wide gulf between AFL and VFL requirements.

Great player management by Roosy and team. But he won't be going back to Casey! He is having a legitimate and well deserved break for 1 game. This will be of fantastic benefit to Clarry Choo Choo! 

Edited April 22, 2016 by picket fence

[Dr. Gonzo 22,786]

4 hours ago, Forest Demon said:

I think he did one last week in public didn't he? Which did seem a bit odd.

As much as I want to see Petracca debut, I don't want him at the expense of Garlett. He is one of our most important players.

The way footy is being played at the moment with goals "out the back" someone like Garlett is invaluable.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,786]

2 hours ago, nutbean said:

I'm not sure why posters were poo pooing other posters on the notion of "resting" Oliver.

Roos openly admitted that they "overplayed" Brayshaw last year.

First year players like Oliver come in after the preseason has already started and then are limited in the work they do in that preseason. 

To expect them to be able to cope with a full season of the rigors of AFL in their first season is folly.

We as posters have no idea how footballers are physically travelling but as much as I love Oliver in the team I have no problem going back to Casey for "rest".

For those who are also saying that if you are fit enough to play Casey you are fit enough to play AFL, I ask you to consider why there are so many footballer we have seen who do so well at VFL but can't make a fist of it in the AFL. VFL is a good vehicle to get competitive match time, miles into the legs and hone the skills, but reaction times, skill levels, physically  and aerobically there is a wide gulf between AFL and VFL requirements.

I agree except for the playing at Casey part. What's the point? If you're gonna rest him might as well give him a legit rest. Probably also best to rest him for the longer away trips to Darwin and Perth.