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  On 13/11/2024 at 22:29, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Exactly my point.  I did know that, my post was aiming for the facetious.  Them bleating about how unfair the advantage Victorian clubs get over interstate clubs is ridiculous when they can't see past their own noses.  That's why I'm still incredibly angry about the whole Mac Andrew farce.

If we matched the Gold Coast bid on Andrew, that would have likely came at pick 5, we would have had nothing left to pay for JVR.

I don't think we got hurt with that rule change, unless you think Mac Andrew has way more upside than JVR.

 
  On 13/11/2024 at 11:46, DeeSpencer said:

Northern state academies are open to anyone not based on ethnicity like NGA.

which is why gold coast got about 5 first rounders last year and will get 5 more next year. utterly ridiculous situation as all the elite juniors are invited then are tied to one club. 

  On 13/11/2024 at 23:27, Bay Riffin said:

which is why gold coast got about 5 first rounders last year and will get 5 more next year. utterly ridiculous situation as all the elite juniors are invited then are tied to one club. 

exactly!

 
  On 13/11/2024 at 22:08, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Have been reading through a GC Suns Forum and it's interesting to read that KW is not rated particularly highly at all by those who follow the junior teams up there.  Most attributing his selections to name, height and 'favours'.

If these reports are anything to go by, there are much more promising prospects for the Suns to choose from in their academy next year.

 

The suns have fans with a forum?!? Who knew


  On 13/11/2024 at 11:23, manny100 said:

According to the HUN he is now 204cms and will train with us and GC.

His grandfather rates him better than Jeff.

Lazy journalism.

Jeff said he is now 6'7''.  Sam Edmund's incorrect conversion of that was 204cm.

6'7'' is actually 200.66cm.

My gut feel is that he's 199/200cm, which allows for slight embellishment from a proud Father.

Jeff is a very proud father, but does an awful lot of promoting of this son, which Kalani, at his age, may well find a bit cringeworthy. If so, maybe Kalani would like to escape the clutches of his old man, which would be good for our chances of him nominating us. 

 
  On 14/11/2024 at 00:44, Neil Crompton said:

Jeff is a very proud father, but does an awful lot of promoting of this son, which Kalani, at his age, may well find a bit cringeworthy. If so, maybe Kalani would like to escape the clutches of his old man, which would be good for our chances of him nominating us. 

Myself and @Adam The God have been big on this for a while.

There's being a proud father, and then there's being obsessive to the point of it being unhealthy. 

If Kalani turns down MFC, I don't know who'll be more distraught, the MFC fans, or his player manager Jeff White.


  On 12/11/2024 at 07:55, Ted Lasso said:

I think the pitch is pretty simple, he's much MUCH more likely to get a game consistently with us than he is to displace Walter, King or Andrew out of the forward line at the Suns. 

Bring him down to the G for Anzac Eve and Kings Birthday, big crowds marquee games which you won’t get at Metricon

  On 14/11/2024 at 01:35, Pennant St Dee said:

Bring him down to the G for Anzac Eve and Kings Birthday, big crowds marquee games which you won’t get at Metricon

Except Kalani might just love the family life, his mates and the GC sunshine.  it’s a tough deal to beat!! 
 

Really hoping the Dees impress him during the pre Xmas trading.  Maybe he can sign up to board with the Brayshaws!!! .  

  On 13/11/2024 at 19:58, rumpole said:

Yes but you need to take into account the family situation with Kalani’s mother and brothers still living on the Gold Coast and perhaps not so inclined to move down to Melbourne.

What about a fortnightly gig as a part time specialist ruck coach?

Could also check in on Kalani to see how he is going.

Could also do forward scouting game reports on Lions and Suns and some part time recruiting for us as well.

Where there is a will there is a way.

Edited by Redleg

I could get a few 'face palm' emoji reactions (but they no longer exist 🙃) for this somewhat sacrilegious question:  do folks want him for the sentimentality of F/S or because he will be very good? 

  On 14/11/2024 at 04:48, Lucifers Hero said:

I could get a few 'face palm' emoji reactions (but they no longer exist 🙃) for this somewhat sacrilegious question:  do folks want him for the sentimentality of F/S or because he will be very good? 

He is definitely good enough to be drafted based on underage form for a key tall.

Whether he ends up a first round pick will depend on his form next year. Often key talls don't really come into top contention until the year of their draft.


  On 14/11/2024 at 04:48, Lucifers Hero said:

I could get a few 'face palm' emoji reactions (but they no longer exist 🙃) for this somewhat sacrilegious question:  do folks want him for the sentimentality of F/S or because he will be very good? 

He's got the talent LH. My issue though is that he's been used used in the wrong position as a defender. That's not his niche.

In my opinion he's a genuine Forward/ruckman similar to Sam Darcy from the Western Bulldogs. I want to see more of him as a forward next year then a defender.

Either way, his talent and athletic profile is certainly a good fit for us from a list profile and needs perspective. 

I don't quite see the traits that they obviously see if playing Kalani down back.

The next 6 months will be interesting for him. 

  On 14/11/2024 at 06:14, layzie said:

I don't quite see the traits that they obviously see if playing Kalani down back.

The next 6 months will be interesting for him. 

I’m hoping it was more a learning type of thing. Understand what the best young forwards are doing and then play 2025 as a key forward/ruck.

  On 14/11/2024 at 04:48, Lucifers Hero said:

I could get a few 'face palm' emoji reactions (but they no longer exist 🙃) for this somewhat sacrilegious question:  do folks want him for the sentimentality of F/S or because he will be very good? 

If you think you'd get facepalms then I'm about to go nuclear...

I don't want a team full of Father sons, I feel that so many posters on here want to have as many F/S as possible but it doesn't float my boat, actually it grosses me out if I'm being honest. If a F/S prospect is damn good or has potential to grow into something amazing then absolutely go for it. Of course I have no issue with a slight leg up (like Kobe Farmer training with us a few years back) either.

But having over around 8 on the list seems like nepotism city to me and I don't see the romance that others do in it. Best player for the spot, not hard. 

  On 14/11/2024 at 04:48, Lucifers Hero said:

I could get a few 'face palm' emoji reactions (but they no longer exist 🙃) for this somewhat sacrilegious question:  do folks want him for the sentimentality of F/S or because he will be very good? 

I personally wouldn’t want any F/S who is not good and either would the club.

The anxiety here is we have followed him for a few years as a future F/S and he is doing well. However ,now we have opposition for his services and if we lose out again to GC because of changed rules and he becomes a good player it will be very annoying.


  On 13/11/2024 at 23:26, tilly18 said:

If we matched the Gold Coast bid on Andrew, that would have likely came at pick 5, we would have had nothing left to pay for JVR.

I don't think we got hurt with that rule change, unless you think Mac Andrew has way more upside than JVR.

Irrelevant. If Mac was our first pick we would  have made the points somehow even if we wanted JVR. You have to look at it that we would like both not just be satisfied with one star. 

Clubs are doing their homework if they want the best. 

  On 14/11/2024 at 06:14, layzie said:

I don't quite see the traits that they obviously see if playing Kalani down back.

The next 6 months will be interesting for him. 

How many games have you seen him play Layzie?

  On 14/11/2024 at 06:34, 58er said:

Irrelevant. If Mac was our first pick we would  have made the points somehow even if we wanted JVR. You have to look at it that we would like both not just be satisfied with one star. 

Clubs are doing their homework if they want the best. 

if mac had been available to us via nga we would have traded out of the pick that became jvr

Edited by whatwhat say what

 
  On 14/11/2024 at 06:25, layzie said:

If you think you'd get facepalms then I'm about to go nuclear...

I don't want a team full of Father sons, I feel that so many posters on here want to have as many F/S as possible but it doesn't float my boat, actually it grosses me out if I'm being honest. If a F/S prospect is damn good or has potential to grow into something amazing then absolutely go for it. Of course I have no issue with a slight leg up (like Kobe Farmer training with us a few years back) either.

But having over around 8 on the list seems like nepotism city to me and I don't see the romance that others do in it. Best player for the spot, not hard. 

8?! Viney, Woewodin and Brown are on the 2025 list. Who else am I missing?

  On 14/11/2024 at 06:59, Dee Boys said:

8?! Viney, Woewodin and Brown are on the 2025 list. Who else am I missing?

Must think Trent is Jared’s son…


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