been average at hawkes at best we did well imo

Need to move on... Focus on what club needs to do to retain quality players....

Now I understand why it is you rate Garland so highly also.

We have a completely different understanding of what 'playing well' means.

I think this is more revealing about youre understanding mate. Sure, his disposal was less than average, but he wore walker like a blanket which is exactly his role.

Was a key player (among so many others in an imperious performance) last night, good on him. I'm happy for him.

Commentators say Frawley was brilliant on Tex! Ha!! Group think spilling over into Demonland, what's new.....

I wonder how many commentators are drinking mates with Tex & how many are friends with Frawley's uncle, all part of the industry commentators boys club if you ask me.

The Crows were a shadow of themselves last night, Frawley was barely challenged all night cause Tex couldn't get near it up forward. Clako is 100% correct in giving credit to team defense rather than Frawley. I would go so far as to point out that Dunn has won more 1on1 contests and lost much less than Frawley as a defender over the past few years & is much much better with the ball in hand than Frawley has ever been in his career including his AA season........ That is why Frawley was played forward in his last year rather than Dunn or Garland, I g'tee Roosy rates them above Frawley as defenders & he knows how important it is to have good users of the ball coming out of defense (hence Grimes' struggles under Roos, Salem moving to HB, recruitment of H, letting Frawley walk etc etc).

That is sheer rubbish! Has played well I a top team. Your heart is overriding your judgment.

He is a doubtful decision maker but otherwise is a first rate player. Is at the Hawks for the long term. After Lake retires he will be their key defender

stevethemanjordan, on 19 Sept 2015 - 07:45 AM, said:

Sometimes I wonder what supporters watch in a game of footy.

Walker had minimal supply all night. Barely any opportunities one-on-one. And Frawley was not his opponent the whole night.

Clarkson's response was bang on the money. Hawthorn's pressure on the ball carrier didn't allow Walker anything.

To say Frawley had a great game is honestly hilarious. Sure he made two or three elementary Backman spoils.

When he has the ball in his hands, he stands out like a sore thumb in that Hawthorn team. Decision making is awful. Is just a dumb footy player plain and simple.

Some of the posts are truly embarrassing on this thread.

Gee Steve.......So if I disagree with you......I post embarrassing posts???? You are so prejudiced you can't even admit that he played well last night in a very good side that won a flag last year.....He has played most games for them only, missing through injury.

I doubt that the Hawthorn Footy club agree with you. They must see the games differently to you

I thought he played very well and I wish him all the luck in the world.

I think this is more revealing about youre understanding mate. Sure, his disposal was less than average, but he wore walker like a blanket which is exactly his role.

Was a key player (among so many others in an imperious performance) last night, good on him. I'm happy for him.

Honestly, there is no point arguing if you can't see it.

You must be another who was either listening to the commentary or read in the media that it was him who kept Walker out of the game.

To say that it was Frawley who was solely responsible for curbing the influence of Walker and shutting him out of the game is completely ignoring and paying no respect to these two facts:

1: Hawthorn's midfield pressure disallowing Adelaide any quality inside 50 entries and therefore any sort of advantage to Walker.

2: Frawley wasn't Walker's only opponent. If Frawley is getting this (unwarranted) credit, surely players like Lake deserve it also?

Seriously. You're a nuff nuff. You're whole argument is based on nothing other than the affection you clearly have for the guy.

Frawley Factor= Failure Factor

Bit harsh Frosty given he played well last night. The guy is playing finals footy. We are just jealous.

Bit harsh Frosty given he played well last night. The guy is playing finals footy. We are just jealous.

Hes an imposter. Hawks mids destroyed Adelaide which meant no real ball came near Tex. He's a weak link and will be exposed. the only joy I can get out of this is Hawthorns demise

I'm happy if people think Frawley played well regardless of the facts. So far most of the guys we have traded out have been pretty useless. Last thing we want is for oppo clubs to think that trading for an ex-MFC player is a mistake. Go Frawley!

The verdict is in and Frawley is guilty.

Of crimes against fashion.

I was at the game last night and Frawley did well on Tex. Yes Tex didnt get great ball delivery but Chippa kept up with him and put in some good spoils. Now he is playing in a prelim which is why he left us, to play finals. So good luck to him and lets move on.

How was his disposal last night? Cause you'd probably want more than a few spoils for his $$ no?

Plenty of Hawks supporters I know are still underwhelmed regardless of last night.

Edited September 19, 201510 yr by thevil1

The verdict is in and Frawley is guilty.

Of crimes against fashion.

Oh my God!!

Is that for sale??

The verdict is in and Frawley is guilty.

Of crimes against fashion.

It’s amazing what football players will put their bodies through in pursuit of money and success. Such commitment is truly astounding.

Tippett is worse.

That Hawks jumper on Chip looks like something one would wear to a bad taste 80's party. Appalling.

That Hawks jumper on Chip looks like something one would wear to a bad taste 80's party. Appalling.

think it's the dorks apres ski gear

think it's the dorks apres ski gear

I guess Chip will be off to Aspen over the break then...

That Hawks jumper on Chip looks like something one would wear to a bad taste 80's party. Appalling.

suits him

I guess Frawley drew the short straw to be the 'dummy' and model that yellow and brown monstrosity!!!!

Here is our version of the 'Ugly Sweater'.

How the AFL expects to sell them for $80 I will never know!

Max doesn't look too happy about being the model either but at least our jumper looks decent!!

I wonder how much Gawn was paid to agree to be photographed in that

You can imagine the changeroom banter!!

Edited September 20, 201510 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Gawn...the natural clown....now appropriately attired !!

Clearly they've just photoshopped his head on to that sweater.

$80 for that!!

Another superb licenced product from AFL house

So innovative.

Bryan Adams will look good in one on GF day...

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-26/this-is-why-i-left-melbourne-frawley

I really hate this guy. I hope they lose next week and he never wins a premiership!