His pass in the 3rd qtr to Hogan (I think) last week was sublime. Was clearly in our best.

We were also singing his praises in the Richmond win in rd 4.

Also ended last year quite well so might be the sort of player that works himself into a season.

Probably just worth perserving with but doesn't provide any point of difference at AFL level.

Gotta be at least 5-6 others on the list worthy of delisting before Viv. He's a great kid, too. Would be sad to see him cut loose.

Will be surprised if he's in the mix when our midfield stocks are bolstered next season. Been decent in his past two games and he's the sort of player you have to give a few games (definitely not a good sub) to assess them. He was said to be a bargain when we acquired him but I don't think he's good enough to hold a spot in any side

I like Viv and wanted it to work, but he's clearly got no elite traits at AFL level. He's OK, but we need better than OK.

Keep turning the bloody list over and stop hanging on to fringe journeyman like we have for years.

If we jettison one too early I can live with that. I'd rather a 'Viv' embarrass us than continually keeping ordinary players.

He is still young and has not played many games, but within those games I have seen things to show he can make it at AFL level.

Def keeper I reckon.

Most players require at least 20+ games to feel comfortable at the highest level. FFS we have persisted with M jones (50 games), Bail, Terlich etc for longer and they have shown less skill wise than this guy.

I dont mind Viv.. I think he needs 1 big breakout game for everything to click. Hes one of the few players on the list that kicks to the advantage of his team mates.

"Interesting" in a good way?

The Jones boys stats (ave per game for Time on Ground)

N Jones M Jones

Disposals 29.6 2nd 13.12 29th

Disp Eff 69.3 25th 77.8 9th

Clangers 3.3 29th 1.62 5th lowest

Marks 3.05 27th 3.72 20th

Clear 5.65 4th 0.97 21st

Tackles 5.46 5th 3.56 18th

1% 0.83 23rd 0.81 25th

I 50 5.40 1st 1.94 20th

GA 0.5 17th 0.16 24th

ToG 82.9 19th 77.2 24th

Has improved his defensive running the last 2 weeks which I think was why he kept getting shunted back to VFL. Play him rest of the year and if he plays like he did last week for the remainder in a shallow draft year extend him for 2016.

One Showed improvement in his last 2 games. He is AFL standard. Strong and a good kick. Perfect modern wingman.

Hiis past two games have been pretty good ,even when the wall is crashing down around him. He seems to have a lot more confidence because he is starting to feel comfortable out there.

He was far from the worst today !!

I only watched the first quarter and a bit and he was pretty good.

T-e-r-r-i-b-l-e.

T-e-r-r-i-b-l-e.

Are you kidding?

He was about 15th in line in the terrible queue.

It was a long queue mind you

One Showed improvement in his last 2 games. He is AFL standard. Strong and a good kick. Perfect modern wingman.

'Perfect modern wingman' is a bit ambitious. Was good last week, showed a little bit today. Is still a 'may keep' for me.

T-e-r-r-i-b-l-e.

Pfft coming from the bloke who has a teary if anyone qestions his lover boy Jack Watts.

Michie today showed why he should have been given more game time ahead of the likes of Bail and Jones.. earnt himself another year. He is gaining more and more confident each week. He rarely wastes the ball and actually has good decision making.

I don't believe in keeping bad players on the basis of:

1/ He is not the worst.

2/ Shallow draft.

If you don't have anything to offer, you're cut.

I see something in Mitchie though. I think he is worth trying.

MJones, DTerlich, RBail, Mckenzie, BNewton, ARiley, JFitzpatrick aren't.

Pfft coming from the bloke who has a teary if anyone qestions his lover boy Jack Watts.

Michie today showed why he should have been given more game time ahead of the likes of Bail and Jones.. earnt himself another year. He is gaining more and more confident each week. He rarely wastes the ball and actually has good decision making.

If you can't see he is bog ordinary, I can't help you.

I'd be cleaning out others before Michie. Was probably our best today.

Bail, McKenzie, M Jones, Jamar, Grimes, Garland and Howe should be out the door before him. He is on the fringe though.

Good today

T-e-r-r-i-b-l-e.

H-a-v-i-n-g a l-e-n-d-?

I'd like to revisit my earlier post.

Gotta be at least 10+ others I'd get the [censored] out of this club before moving Viv on. As if it wasn't bad enough that Roos contradicts his own mission statement by refusing to drop bad players, but the team would be fools to delist players actually having a dip compared with some of the other peahearts who pervade the list.

H-a-v-i-n-g a l-e-n-d-?

No, not at all.

Mediocre player in a mediocre team.

No, not at all.

Mediocre player in a mediocre team.

He's no McKenzie, Terlich, Howe or Grimes, that's for sure.

Will always do well at Casey, but not AFL standard.

Delist.

Asap.

No, not at all.

Mediocre player in a mediocre team.

Thought he was better than average today, which doesn't equate to 'terrible' in my book. Just my opinion,