THE PEOPLE SPEAK ... BUT DID THE CATS GET THEIR TONGUES? by Demonlanders

The Melbourne Football club approached the match against Geelong with a team with a greater resolve after the disappointment of the last minute loss against St Kilda last week. Captain Nathan Jones said that this loss was 'more compelling than any of the past as it was after positive signs of improvement had been seen right through the club.

"With the new players there is now a core of players who recognise that we are capable when playing our best football of matching any side".

The committment was recognised not only by an increased intensity at training that saw four players sustain match day injuries after a vigorous session but also saw players sign continuing contracts.

This novel approach to list management secured all players under 27 years of age sign for the next 5 years, while those over 27 approaching the last years of their contracts were provided with ongoing coaching and mentoring roles with the club up to the next 5 years. Payment would be performance based with a total pool divided amongst the squad based on a complex formula compensating for necessary list management decisions with success bonuses included. Contracts could of course be terminated due to exceptional circumstances but would be subject to group endorsement.

"The money is not the significant issue though" said Jones on behalf of the players "we know we are well rewarded for doing a job which while it requires dedication and single minded focus is also what we all enjoy doing most.

"We also recognise that the best reward is success and we are committed to winning a flag for our long suffering supporters within the five year time frame".

The Sunday result saw a visible indicator that something had to happen and it is appropriate that the return to the scene of the notorious "186" comes so rapidly to the club.

Paul Roos said that he was gutted with the loss " not for himself but the players and the club". Clearly we have improved and that was recognised after the performance against Collingwood, but we need to take our best football to the next level where we can perform under extreme pressure for the full 120 minutes or whatever".

There was again a further recognition that there is a foundation of talent and skill levels for all features of the game that must be managed to the full by coaches and players.

"We all have to be aware when to handball, when to shepherd, when to kick short or long, when to slow down and when to speed up play, but more importantly we need to do this as a team and not as individuals" said Jones saying these were the recurring comments coming from the players themselves.

"For a brief moment we had team unity after Howies goal only to lose focus and the match " he said. All players agreed that they do not want this to happen again and will not only practice at increased tempo but will ensure they leave the field utterly physically exhausted, "expect to see this after every training session and every game from now on"

The club hopes that Geelong brings the same level of intensity to this weeks game as they displayed against Port last Friday. The players were extremely vocal at training and aware that they have the support, the skill and now the desire to put their body over the ball, and keeping their emphasis on making and creating space by sacrificial acts to ensure their elite play will be rewarded.

Analysis of the game showed that many basic errors were because their was a lack of awareness of their teammates so expect a louder more cohesive group of players this week. The team will be selected from those who survive the rigorous training scheduled for this week. There are some sore bodies now but they contain healthy minds committed to improve.

Fans can be assured that win lose or draw, this weeks match at Simonds, will constitute a "line in the sand" moment that other successful clubs have displayed.

Any less and the mighty Melbourne Football Club may as well look at dissolving and the contracts will be worthless. - dpositive

Has the time come when the Demons can finally lay to rest the ghost of 186?

It was at this very ground almost four years ago that a Melbourne team produced the most lifeless, insipid performance ever seen on the AFL/VFL stage. Whatever the reasons behind the display, it was not what the supporters of any football club deserve to witness. A large number of those who wore the club jumper that day have moved on and in many cases (but not all) rightfully so. There are many new players at the club and some small steps are being made in the right direction but the club continues to produce disappointing results.

Like the insipid loss by over 100 points against Hawthorn a month ago or last week's brain fade after it snatched the lead in the final minute at Etihad only to give it all away 20 seconds later.

Until the club can produce wins at a venue like Simonds Stadium against teams like Geelong in games like the one it faces this weekend, the ghosts will never be laid to rest. - Elwood 3184

THE GAME

Geelong at Simonds Stadium on Sunday 21 June 2015 at 3.20pm

HEAD TO HEAD

Overall Geelong 126 wins Melbourne 83 wins 2 draws

At Simonds Stadium Geelong 37 wins Melbourne 17 wins 1 draw

The last five meetings Geelong 5 wins Melbourne 0 wins

The Coaches Scott 1 Roos 0

MEDIA

TV - Fox Footy Channel

RADIO - Triple M 3AW SEN ABC ABC Grandstand

THE BETTING

Geelong to win $1.16 Melbourne to win $5.25

LAST TIME THEY MET Geelong 14.18.102 defeated Melbourne 5.6.36 at the MCG in Round 17, 2014

As the scores indicate, the game was very much like most of the last 12 meetings (apart from one which was a draw). A complete flogging.

THE TEAMS

GEELONG

B: Jared Rivers, Harry Taylor, Corey Enright
HB: Cameron Guthrie, Tom Lonergan, Jake Kolodjashnij
C: Andrew Mackie, Joel Selwood, Steven Motlop
HF: Cory Gregson, Josh Walker, Steve Johnson
F: Jordan Murdoch, Tom Hawkins, Darcy Lang
FOLL: Mark Blicavs, Josh Caddy, Mathew Stokes
I/C: Jed Bews, Shane Kersten, Michael Luxford, Jackson Thurlow
EMG: Sam Blease, Nakia Cockatoo, Jarrad Jansen

IN: Jake Kolodjashnij, Michael Luxford

OUT: James Kelly (ankle), Rhys Stanley (foot)

MELBOURNE

B: Daniel Cross, Tom McDonald, Neville Jetta
HB: Jeremy Howe, Lynden Dunn, Heritier Lumumba
C: Jimmy Toumpas, Dom Tyson, Jack Viney
HF: Jack Watts, Chris Dawes, Billy Stretch
F: Jeff Garlett, Jake Spencer, Angus Brayshaw
FOLL: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Bernie Vince
I/C: Rohan Bail, Matt Jones, Alex Neal-Bullen, Aidan Riley
EMG: Jordie McKenzie, Viv Michie, Dean Terlich

IN: Rohan Bail, Chris Dawes, Matt Jones, Jake Spencer

OUT: Jack Grimes (hand), Jesse Hogan (hamstring soreness), Viv Michie (omitted), Cameron Pedersen (wrist)

"It will be carnage. " - bingers

For a less insightful match preview see this

Whispering Jack - I'm not as optimistic as bingers. I don't think it will be carnage but I reckon we will win comfortably in the end after a good fight from the Cats. Melbourne by 4 to 5 goals.

Some things are worth repeating. Some things are worth repeating. It will be carnage.

Some things are worth repeating. Some things are worth repeating. It will be carnage.

Yeah the Cats are toast

What the actual [censored]?

3:20 on a sunday and channel 7 arent showing the game live?!

pathetic as usual by them.

yeah bonkers time for a game of footy at Geelong.......

mmmmm......thats strange.....i just checked my bank account balance.....it was 186.....i reckon that's a good omen.

mmmmm......thats strange.....i just checked my bank account balance.....it was 186.....i reckon that's a good omen.

186 with a few zeros on the end?

What the actual [censored]?

3:20 on a sunday and channel 7 arent showing the game live?!

pathetic as usual by them.

Who watches council tv these days?

186 with a few zeros on the end?

More like 1.86......

The 3.20 pm was the killer for me.

Puts the game finish time at close to 6 pm on the shortest day of the year which means that if I stay to the end I'll be driving home on that dark godforsaken stretch of highway in a foul mood.

Still, I hope the boys can hear me cheering them on from the loungeroom while I watch the game on Foxtel.

The 3.20 pm was the killer for me.

Puts the game finish time at close to 6 pm on the shortest day of the year which means that if I stay to the end I'll be driving home on that dark godforsaken stretch of highway in a foul mood.

Still, I hope the boys can hear me cheering them on from the loungeroom while I watch the game on Foxtel.

Was considering going down to Simonds for the first time in my life... until I saw the time slot.

What the actual [censored]?

3:20 on a sunday and channel 7 arent showing the game live?!

pathetic as usual by them.

Foxtel have to show a certain number of games and as its a split round thats why they get the sunday games until the rounds are back to normal.

Well I havent been back since that debacle 186 day. If the game was on Saturday id go but not at 3:20 on a sunday arvo and by the time you get home and that its a tad late when some of us have to be up very very early the next day. I have chosen to work instead but will be listening. No Mitch Clark and Bartel isnt ready.

I hope we can be competitive and for christs sake no more injuries.

Edited June 18, 201510 yr by dees189227

Making the trip as a guest of Geelong old players association. I will be happy if we make a game of it.

The 3.20 pm was the killer for me.

Puts the game finish time at close to 6 pm on the shortest day of the year which means that if I stay to the end I'll be driving home on that dark godforsaken stretch of highway in a foul mood.

Still, I hope the boys can hear me cheering them on from the loungeroom while I watch the game on Foxtel.

Along with the top temperature forecast to be a balmy 12 degrees?

It's games like this I dislike being a melbourne supporter. Geelong in geelong, wa teams in wa, sydney in sydney, playing any of Collingwood, hawthorn, port GWS and even st. Kilda. At least 10 games a year that melbourne go into and as supporters we know they won't even give a yelp, or if they do, be completely outclassed for a "honorable" 12 goal loss.

taking into account geelong's injuries, our injuries, the location, our inability to get within a roar of geelong in the last 8 years and hopefully the coaches motivating the players in a different manner this week, a 6 goal loss looks about the best outcome.

Hopefully we keep the young guys in to keep adapting to the pace. Last week's game was very quick and even players like Dunn amd Jones were cramping, so expect AND and stretch to be better for the experience.

I just can not find any motivation for this game at all. Still flat after last weekend.

THE PEOPLE SPEAK ... BUT DID THE CATS GET THEIR TONGUES? by Demonlanders

MELBOURNE

B: Daniel Cross, Tom McDonald, Neville Jetta

HB: Jeremy Howe, Lynden Dunn, Heritier Lumumba

C: Jimmy Toumpas, Dom Tyson, Jack Viney

HF: Jack Watts, Chris Dawes, Billy Stretch

F: Jeff Garlett, Jesse Hogan, Angus Brayshaw

FOLL: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Bernie Vince

I/C (from): Rohan Bail, Matt Jones, Viv Michie, Alex Neal-Bullen, Aidan Riley, Jake Spencer, Dean Terlich

IN: Rohan Bail, Chris Dawes, Matt Jones, Jake Spencer, Dean Terlich

OUT: Jack Grimes (thumb), Cam Pedersen (wrist)

No surprises! Pretty much as DL's expected.

Forced changes really.

Edited June 18, 201510 yr by Whispering_Jack

Hogan and Brayshaw won't be rested - good news.

Jeez would have thought Mark Jamar come in instead of Spencer.

Well looks like she's all over for Russian

Hogan and Brayshaw won't be rested - good news.

Unless its a late withdrawal.......lets hope not!

Terlich, Jones, Riley and ANB (sub) would be my bench. Maybe play Terlich in the forward half. Pretty depressing 'Ins' but can't do much about that.

I thought Fitzpatrick would be well-suited to a run this week, though I guess the Cats are as short on talls as we are right now.

Terlich probably has to play, though the guy makes me tear my hair out when he isn't playing simple footy like last season, and Dawes is obviously in.

Would like to see Michie dropped, and I guess ANB gets another week to get a taste.

Can't see a great result on Sunday.

Given Spencer probably won't play with Gawn, no Fitzy or Pedo to be 2nd ruck hurts. Bench should probably be Terlich, ANB, Riley and Jones

Stretch in first 18 is notable

Gawn will have his work cut out with Blicavs. Although Stanley and Kelly are both out for geelong. There in look as good as ours blease and cockatoo. Its good to have Dawes back just to give Hogan some help and not make him the only target up forward.

Edited June 18, 201510 yr by dees189227

186 with a few zeros on the end?

No, that's mine.

Where are all these quotes from?