I agree with what you are saying and think we need all of that. I just put it in a business context. For the club to be successful as a business we need to provide those things because if we don't then the supporters lose that connection and the club loses money and doesn't survive. The AFL are slowly waking up to this and the club is now in hands I trust to start bringing these things back.

It is the same with people selling things, if you look at cars people have a emotional irrational connection to certain brands. The brand will do what ever they can to keep that connection, all for the bottom line.

It is a step to take to realise that you are a customer but it is the way it is and needs to be for the club to survive.

the business is bound to fail, if it cannot start getting the supporters back re-engaged with the players of our club once again, the emotional attachments to the Mfc has been severed, as if cheated on, just like a partner in marriage has gone out secretly having an affair, cheating, & emotionally shutting out the other partner.. the emotions are severed.

this has to be repaired before any business model can be applied.

Don't be racist

grow up oli

Sorry, why is everyone telling Olisik to grow up? Redleg's comment about 'war dance' in regards to Bennell was completely irrelevant to his footballing ability and should have been called out.

the business is bound to fail, if it cannot start getting the supporters back re-engaged with the players of our club once again, the emotional attachments to the Mfc has been severed, as if cheated on, just like a partner in marriage has gone out secretly having an affair, cheating, & emotionally shutting out the other partner.. the emotions are severed.

this has to be repaired before any business model can be applied.

Part of running business is repairing these things though. they are not separate, they are one and the same, and any good business manager will identify that and get to work to do so.

Sorry, why is everyone telling Olisik to grow up? Redleg's comment about 'war dance' in regards to Bennell was completely irrelevant to his footballing ability and should have been called out.

Umm I think you need to re read the thread.

It was my comment and I just added "and a war dance".

Did it not take place?

I just add it to the stat's listed.

Umm I think you need to re read the thread.

It was my comment and I just added "and a war dance".

Did it not take place?

I just add it to the stat's listed.

Scary how much the world is going old Orwell and no one even sees it. PC = the distortion of facts to fit a comfortable or preferred narrative

some talk that ch 7 said other clubs are sniffing around gawn, who is ooc in 2016.

some talk that ch 7 said other clubs are sniffing around gawn, who is ooc in 2016.

They'd be stupid not to given his current form.

some talk that ch 7 said other clubs are sniffing around gawn, who is ooc in 2016.

I think Maxxy is pretty committed to the Dees. Would be surprised to see him go.

I think Maxxy is pretty committed to the Dees. Would be surprised to see him go.

One of the few that I feel would be loyal.

Edited July 28, 201510 yr by Ethan Tremblay

Bennell's going nowhere. He wants to repay the faith shown in him by GC.

Sorry, why is everyone telling Olisik to grow up? Redleg's comment about 'war dance' in regards to Bennell was completely irrelevant to his footballing ability and should have been called out.

so what if its irrelevant, its how he honestly feels at this time, so in that, it is relevant.

Part of running business is repairing these things though. they are not separate, they are one and the same, and any good business manager will identify that and get to work to do so.

this is the trouble with the club... you sound so business like in your descriptions of this issue, it sounds like I would talk about an engine part.

But I would still have the emotion & passion in my words & sounds, describing the car part.

this is the reason the aFL are fcuking it up so badly... they are treating it from a distance like an stock on stock market the other side of the world... there is no empathy, & this is why they are failing BADLY imo..

the game isn't a business..... its the peoples game..... only those who see $$$$ in it, treat it like a business, & this is why they are messing it up.

its like a family member, to people, genuine supporters.. you don't repair a loved one. you love them & help them. If they go off the rails on drugs & turn nasty bashing & murdering people, you become distanced from them.

this is where business has taken the game, since going Pro.

the people are distancing, from the thing they don't recognise anymore.

One of the few that I feel would be loyal.

You would hope so. If Max left, we'd be well and truly bent over in the ruck division.

If Gawn left for money he would deserve the Goodes treatment. After we have spent 6 or so years developing him and nursing him through repeat knee injuries the least he can do is sign with us.

As long as Dunn is finally jettisoned I'll be happy

If Gawn left for money he would deserve the Goodes treatment. After we have spent 6 or so years developing him and nursing him through repeat knee injuries the least he can do is sign with us.

That is not the real world olisik

We now live in a world where you set yourself up because in the end that is the way the system is designed.

The union wants nothing to do with anything that does not mean more money to players to expect more than that is fool hardy.

if the MFC havent made Treloar a massive offer then they are once again showing they aren't serious

Says you.

Redleg's comment about 'war dance' in regards to Bennell was completely irrelevant to his footballing ability and should have been called out.

What comment?

Think you mean the post by Old Dee.

Edited July 28, 201510 yr by Redleg

Why all the talk about Treloar?

Yes, he's a good tough, hardworking player and fits Roosy' big-bodied midfielder mantra.

But do we really need another clearance type who has great aerial skills ahead of say a hard-working running type who can break lines - I thought that's what everyone complains about with our style.

I'm sorry but I reckon the club would have only minimal interest in wasting its top pick and a player to get Treloar and that's even if they could match what the Pies, North and Dogs can offer.

Would those wanting him actually be happy if Vince or Viney or Jones was forced out of the midfield set-up?

To me the player we wanted was Dylan Shiel because he provides dash and works hard - but unfortunately that boat has sailed.

Danger would be nice too and is in keeping with our urgent need - but that boat has also sailed.

So why is everyone working themselves into a lather about Treloar being on the market?

Does anyone have some inside info about him wanting to come or is it just dreamy hot air by Demonlanders?

Umm I think you need to re read the thread.

It was my comment and I just added "and a war dance".

Did it not take place?

I just add it to the stat's listed.

Apparently, I need to re-read it. Apologies and apologies to Redleg too.

What comment?

Think you mean the post by Old Dee.

Yeah, apologies, mate.

Edited July 28, 201510 yr by AdamFarr

Why all the talk about Treloar?

Yes, he's a good tough, hardworking player and fits Roosy' big-bodied midfielder mantra.

But do we really need another clearance type who has great aerial skills ahead of say a hard-working running type who can break lines - I thought that's what everyone complains about with our style.

I'm sorry but I reckon the club would have only minimal interest in wasting its top pick and a player to get Treloar and that's even if they could match what the Pies, North and Dogs can offer.

Would those wanting him actually be happy if Vince or Viney or Jones was forced out of the midfield set-up?

To me the player we wanted was Dylan Shiel because he provides dash and works hard - but unfortunately that boat has sailed.

Danger would be nice too and is in keeping with our urgent need - but that boat has also sailed.

So why is everyone working themselves into a lather about Treloar being on the market?

Does anyone have some inside info about him wanting to come or is it just dreamy hot air by Demonlanders?

Treloar isn't a big bodied mid. But he is a great accumulator and has a bit of x-factor with his goal kicking and speed.

Treloar is about the same height as Scully.

Treloar is about the same height as Scully.

Pretty Low then?

Apparently, I need to re-read it. Apologies and apologies to Redleg too.

Yeah, apologies, mate.

Forget it AF there are more important things to get excited about.

And believe it or not we all make mistakes.