The fall is Toumpas is just criminal. We can't [censored] up those top draft picks, they are so, so crucial and you only get one a year.

Every time we screw up a top 5 pick, it essentially pushes us a year behind everyone else. The competition can rightly tell us to go [censored] ourselves every time we outstretch the arms, because we are continually given the best draft picks and we continually get them criminally wrong. The game was heading heavily towards contested footy winners; it was an extremely short-sighted decision to take a 'cream on the cake' player like Toumpas, especially considering the deficiencies with our F-grade midfield (hard ball winners).

Edited May 16, 201510 yr by Lamashtu

3 - 4 weeks for Salem.

FMD.

I'm going grocery shopping.

Dont forget the chocky biscuits.

Geeez Toumpas panics!! FFS

He almost looks scared to receive the ball.

Seriously bagging Roos ? Take a Xanax and have a look

get back on your iv

3 - 4 weeks for Salem.

FMD.

I'm going grocery shopping.

Oh thanks Steve! I am still stuck in the Southern Stand watching this shambolic excuse for a contest. But hey the tan is looking good.

I'm going grocery shopping.

I hear doing laundry on a day like this is also productive.

He almost looks scared to receive the ball.

Looks that way on the telly coverage.

Pedders looks like he cares and will try anything to get a kick or hurt somebody.

The fall is Toumpas is just criminal. We can't [censored] up those top draft picks, they are so, so crucial and you only get one a year.

Every time we screw up a top 5 pick, it essentially pushes us a year behind everyone else.

I almost refuse to believe that we can have stuffed up another one so badly. The signs are now pretty ominous. He looks completely at sea.

Oh thanks Steve! I am still stuck in the Southern Stand watching this shambolic excuse for a contest. But hey the tan is looking good.

Get some Vitamin D into ya!

Only moderately frustrated;

Me too.

Out of the three teams we've played in a row, Hawks look the most threatening. Ominous when they get the ball.

Not much we can do with the cattle at our disposal, frustrating as it may be.

Hmmm.

I haven't done anything wrong to be disciplined by having to watch Spencer though!

yeah he is ordinary. The person that told me about Jamar is rarely wrong.... Makes sense though, Jamar whilst not great so far this year is a far better option.... Maybe they want match time into Spence who knows ? Russian will retire soon you would think!

it was terrible fixturing by the AFL. I bet no other team plays Sydney-Freo-Hawks in consecutive weeks this season

We also play at the MCG for 5 weeks in a row, cant have everything.

Now that the game is over, cue the half hearted 3Q comeback before rolling over in the 4th.

I hate negativity, but this just gives me the shits. I realise we're several players down, but it's as if some of those players have had these last 3 weeks chalked up as inevitable losses. It's not the losing that gives me the shits, but the lack of grunt, mongrel, effort...whatever you want to call it. There are a few that are trying, but most of them...ugh.

Apart from McDonald we don't have a single winner on the ground

It's sad that after so many years and so many drafts we are still unable to field a team of AFL standard

So after 8 seasons and 7 rounds of pain & suffering and about 20 (or more) No.1 draft picks....we got 1 player who's AFL quality and possibly All Australian ....well done MFC!

Hec i wld rather watch this BS...

The fall is Toumpas is just criminal. We can't [censored] up those top draft picks, they are so, so crucial and you only get one a year.

I want it clarified, who overruled who with pick 4 in the 2012 draft?

Did Neeld overrule Viney or was it the other way around? Either way, whoever made the call almost makes Prendergast a bloody genius.

Oh thanks Steve! I am still stuck in the Southern Stand watching this shambolic excuse for a contest. But hey the tan is looking good.

Getting the base tan for the hipster holiday, Earl?

Arguably the fixture was also favourably weighted for us towards the end of the season, when we usually finish extremely poorly (see last year).

AFL were probably trying to give supporters hope leading into 2016 with some very winnable games.

yeah he is ordinary. The person that told me about Jamar is rarely wrong.... Makes sense though, Jamar whilst not great so far this year is a far better option.... Maybe they want match time into Spence who knows ? Russian will retire soon you would think!

So why isn't Gawn getting a game ahead of Spencer then? Spencer is no good!

Me too.

Out of the three teams we've played in a row, Hawks look the most threatening. Ominous when they get the ball.

Not much we can do with the cattle at our disposal, frustrating as it may be.

Bloody hell Bing, get ANGRY!!!!

roos,not listening to his crap about having improved so much.the only difference between him and denis jones as coach is he not holding a large bottle of carlton draught

Hey at least Denis earned his Carlton with a better win/loss.

22.7% vs Roos 18.1% .. prior to this match

We also play at the MCG for 5 weeks in a row, cant have everything.

Agreed. The draw is the draw - look at it another way: we could have come out of these three games having lost but taken these teams to the wire - physically, at least, giving us a springboard for the next group of games. Instead we appear to have rolled over.

I want it clarified, who overruled who with pick 4 in the 2012 draft?

Did Neeld overrule Viney or was it the other way around? Either way, whoever made the call almost makes Prendergast a bloody genius.

I'm not sure Neeld truly overruled that decision. Toumpas was rated highly, but he was never a contested ball winner, and has rightly not just evolved into one. The infuriating thing about that pick isn't just the obvious players we missed, but that taking a player like Toumpas was short-sighted given the trends in the game styles that were dominating the competition. It's also infuriating that he's never taken the next step, if he even has one to take.

We continue to be miles behind the league when it comes to trends.

Spencer & Howe, oh dear

Great chase by Bradshaw

Great to see we have come out firing in the third!!! FMD.