2000

Edit:- Interesting, both this and the previous post are my two thousandth.

Post again and they'll all be 2001.

Post again and they'll all be 2001.

That would be quite an odyssey!

Watson sounds like a man who is preparing himself for a disappointment...
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/jobe-watson-im-not-really-enjoying-footy-20150702-gi3zn8.html

Oh poor Jobbey. Boo Hoo

Only 4 and 8 half way through the season.

You better hurry up and retire before they decide you can't play for 2 years.

The ultimate copout: retiring right before a 2 year ban. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

He only won the Brownlow in the year he was on the juice. Zero sympathy for drug cheats.

Micro-doping!

Its a new phrase to me!

It means: "players using tiny amounts of performance-enhancing substances such as testosterone and human growth hormone, which were undetectable".

Its the next big AFL issue and the AFL have no idea about it! http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/microdoping-next-challenge-for-afl-warns-player-agent-peter-jess-20150702-gi3tet.html

An interesting comment from Judd quoted in the article: "Therefore, the next generation of drug cheats will be caught via surveillance of gyms, anti-ageing clinics and internet purchases, not by urine or blood tests." His reference to anti-ageing clinics brings the whole EFC saga back into focus. Maybe the players were getting their micro-dope fix there!

The performance improvement for an athlete is significant: "The micro-doping in the VO2 max [fitness] test, on average, improved the athlete's results by a massive 6.1 per cent. In the 3000-metre run, there was an average improvement of 2.8 per cent."

It must be tempting for footballers (and other athletes) if they can't be found out.

EFC aside, before long we will be assuming that no sportsperson is clean.

A very sad day that will be.

Watson sounds like a man who is preparing himself for a disappointment...

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/jobe-watson-im-not-really-enjoying-footy-20150702-gi3zn8.html

Have a cry Jobe, jeez.

It's now dawned on him that he may never win a premiership and it's sucked the wind from his sails.

The contrast to one N. Jones couldn't be greater.

Micro-doping!

Its a new phrase to me!

It means: "players using tiny amounts of performance-enhancing substances such as testosterone and human growth hormone, which were undetectable".

Its the next big AFL issue and the AFL have no idea about it! http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/microdoping-next-challenge-for-afl-warns-player-agent-peter-jess-20150702-gi3tet.html

An interesting comment from Judd quoted in the article: "Therefore, the next generation of drug cheats will be caught via surveillance of gyms, anti-ageing clinics and internet purchases, not by urine or blood tests." His reference to anti-ageing clinics brings the whole EFC saga back into focus. Maybe the players were getting their micro-dope fix there!

The performance improvement for an athlete is significant: "The micro-doping in the VO2 max [fitness] test, on average, improved the athlete's results by a massive 6.1 per cent. In the 3000-metre run, there was an average improvement of 2.8 per cent."

It must be tempting for footballers (and other athletes) if they can't be found out.

EFC aside, before long we will be assuming that no sportsperson is clean.

A very sad day that will be.

That may well be where hair testing comes to the fore. Lets hope so.

Watson sounds like a man who is preparing himself for a disappointment...

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/jobe-watson-im-not-really-enjoying-footy-20150702-gi3zn8.html

Maybe he really means not enjoying getting caught cheating, and not enjoying being coached by the perpetrator of this unconscionable act of human experimentation

Micro-doping!

Its a new phrase to me!

It means: "players using tiny amounts of performance-enhancing substances such as testosterone and human growth hormone, which were undetectable".

Its the next big AFL issue and the AFL have no idea about it! http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/microdoping-next-challenge-for-afl-warns-player-agent-peter-jess-20150702-gi3tet.html

An interesting comment from Judd quoted in the article: "Therefore, the next generation of drug cheats will be caught via surveillance of gyms, anti-ageing clinics and internet purchases, not by urine or blood tests." His reference to anti-ageing clinics brings the whole EFC saga back into focus. Maybe the players were getting their micro-dope fix there!

The performance improvement for an athlete is significant: "The micro-doping in the VO2 max [fitness] test, on average, improved the athlete's results by a massive 6.1 per cent. In the 3000-metre run, there was an average improvement of 2.8 per cent."

It must be tempting for footballers (and other athletes) if they can't be found out.

EFC aside, before long we will be assuming that no sportsperson is clean.

A very sad day that will be.

More likely the AFL are hoping no one will notice.

Micro-doping!

Its a new phrase to me!

It means: "players using tiny amounts of performance-enhancing substances such as testosterone and human growth hormone, which were undetectable".

Its the next big AFL issue and the AFL have no idea about it! http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/microdoping-next-challenge-for-afl-warns-player-agent-peter-jess-20150702-gi3tet.html

An interesting comment from Judd quoted in the article: "Therefore, the next generation of drug cheats will be caught via surveillance of gyms, anti-ageing clinics and internet purchases, not by urine or blood tests." His reference to anti-ageing clinics brings the whole EFC saga back into focus. Maybe the players were getting their micro-dope fix there!

The performance improvement for an athlete is significant: "The micro-doping in the VO2 max [fitness] test, on average, improved the athlete's results by a massive 6.1 per cent. In the 3000-metre run, there was an average improvement of 2.8 per cent."

It must be tempting for footballers (and other athletes) if they can't be found out.

EFC aside, before long we will be assuming that no sportsperson is clean.

A very sad day that will be.

I have already made that assumption in a few sports LH in fact I made it some years ago.

I rarely watch the Olympics and Cycling.

And while I know the majority of AFL footballers are clean it is obvious that there are substantial numbers who are not.

Only my love of the MFC keeps me involved in AFL at the top level.

I now assume all sports people may be involved. I just pray most are not.

Watson sounds like a man who is preparing himself for a disappointment...

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/jobe-watson-im-not-really-enjoying-footy-20150702-gi3zn8.html

The tears of a man realising he cheated and still failed.

The tears of a man realising he cheated and still failed.

...and aren't they delicious...

I have already made that assumption in a few sports LH in fact I made it some years ago.

I rarely watch the Olympics and Cycling.

And while I know the majority of AFL footballers are clean it is obvious that there are substantial numbers who are not.

Only my love of the MFC keeps me involved in AFL at the top level.

I now assume all sports people may be involved. I just pray most are not.

Olympics are actually one of the cleanest arenas for sport. The number caught out of the thousands competing is very small, especially when you take into account that every medallist at every event is tested immediately after the event, and there are many random tests outside of that as well.

Lance Uppercut. I see on bigfooty you are arguing that's it's far fetched to suggest that News Ltd are running a campaign to push the Hird agenda.

If you think that's far fetched, then you don't know much about the world of Murdoch.

(Murdoch himself probably knows nothing and cares less about anything to do with Essendon.)

News constantly run campaigns against organisations and individuals, and it's not alway to do with Murdoch's bottom line. Sometimes it's just because. Take Robert Manne as an instance. Or anyone who crosses them generally.

A million more examples came out in the phone hacking scandal in Britain.

It is entirely believable that News would take up the cudgels on Hird's behalf.

Lance Uppercut. I see on bigfooty you are arguing that's it's far fetched to suggest that News Ltd are running a campaign to push the Hird agenda.

If you think that's far fetched, then you don't know much about the world of Murdoch.

(Murdoch himself probably knows nothing and cares less about anything to do with Essendon.)

News constantly run campaigns against organisations and individuals, and it's not alway to do with Murdoch's bottom line. Sometimes it's just because. Take Robert Manne as an instance. Or anyone who crosses them generally.

A million more examples came out in the phone hacking scandal in Britain.

It is entirely believable that News would take up the cudgels on Hird's behalf.

Robbo especially. Has lost all credibility over his constant fawning over Hird during this entire time. It is obvious what it is as it lacks any resemblance to balanced and measured journalism. There is a very good reason for it that I got from a very good source, not able to say though as I don't think it would make it through legal.

Murdoch has been pushing Hird's case from day 1

Anybody who cannot see that is a fool

Lance Upperclass Twit is only here to argue a lost cause....

Robbo especially. Has lost all credibility over his constant fawning over Hird during this entire time. It is obvious what it is as it lacks any resemblance to balanced and measured journalism. There is a very good reason for it that I got from a very good source, not able to say though as I don't think it would make it through legal.

Can you PM me the reason please? Id love to know.

Olympics are actually one of the cleanest arenas for sport. The number caught out of the thousands competing is very small, especially when you take into account that every medallist at every event is tested immediately after the event, and there are many random tests outside of that as well.

I did not mention it Chris but the added farce/ corruption that is the "organization Commitee" adds to my problem with the Olympics.

Rotten to the Core. Of course the Soccer mob is the same.

Until there are substantial chances I have little involvement with either.

Why should I support wide spread corruption?

I did not mention it Chris but the added farce/ corruption that is the "organization Commitee" adds to my problem with the Olympics.

Rotten to the Core. Of course the Soccer mob is the same.

Until there are substantial chances I have little involvement with either.

Why should I support wide spread corruption?

That is an entirely different argument to the first one you made, and I agree, the IOC is nearly as bad as FIFA/F1, with the AFL not far behind in my book.

That doesn't replace the fact the Olympics are actually very clean, which flies in the face of your first argument.

Maybe he really means not enjoying getting caught cheating, and not enjoying being coached by the perpetrator of this unconscionable act of human experimentation

My point exactly... not to mention he is probably sensing that the WADA outcome could signal the end of his career.

That is an entirely different argument to the first one you made, and I agree, the IOC is nearly as bad as FIFA/F1, with the AFL not far behind in my book.

That doesn't replace the fact the Olympics are actually very clean, which flies in the face of your first argument.

Because the past is so tainted I don't trust any of them.

We will agree to disagree Chris.

Can you PM me the reason please? Id love to know.

Sorry, I probably have said more than I should and I don't want to break the confidence of a good friend, and risk a friend of theirs job.

Just know that there is more at play than what there appears.

I will have to leave it at that.

Sorry, I probably have said more than I should and I don't want to break the confidence of a good friend, and risk a friend of theirs job.

Just know that there is more at play than what there appears.

I will have to leave it at that.

Fair enough.

jobe was a fat unskilled plodder before the drugs. And now he is thinking about quitting about be caught out!