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Pedersen is too one dimensional. He either clunks a good mark, or he's pretty useless. He's an old-fashioned type more suited to 70/80's football. He's no dud, but when the ball hits the ground ground he's of no real value.

Frost is fast and aggressive and a better pinch hitter in the ruck. Dawes and Pedersen are competing and Dawes plays the hard leading workhorse role better even though Pedersen is a better mark.

Wonderful critique, before you make a sweeping statement, have a look at Pedersen's stats, I know some don't value stats but his for a big forward, especially tackles and pressure acts are good

Frost after one game where he had a minimal amount of time in the ruck, agree he is fast and aggressive and he did some good things, but please

I think it's all about depth. We now have a bunch of options in pretty much every position, and it's going to be tough for some guys to force their way into the side while everyone is fit and firing.

This is the reality of the Pedersen situation

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I also thought Pedersen was pretty good last year but I thought he did sometimes go missing during games. It's definitely between him and Frost at selection and I am very keen on Frosts speed and aggression at the ball, although I think Pedersen is a better mark and kick.

Anyone have the weird problem of Pedersen being put in [brackets] automatically?

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I think it's all about depth. We now have a bunch of options in pretty much every position, and it's going to be tough for some guys to force their way into the side while everyone is fit and firing.

I think this new-found depth is the key! In previous years we have all gone into panic when we have had two injuries in a match. Now we are all wondering who to drop to allow Vince and Dawes to come into the team for Round 2. As long as we don't get two many LTIs to our key position players we should fare better than last year when we were without Clarke and Hogan (& Dawes) for the first Round and had a make-shift forward line (Frawley and Pederson) for the remainder of the year.

This year, so far, Petracca (& Trengrove?) is the only (potential) star missing from our midfield/forward structure through LTI but we are able to cover.

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You actually have no idea. wow. He regularly throws his weight around, bumping, harassing, yapping etc. Have you actually watched him play?

Yes he has done some dirty things, but to say that the opposition wouldn't fear him if they see him coming, OR standing in front to block etc. is just so so dumb.

I'm shocked by how stupid you are. You CLEARLY have never seen him play, so here you go:

We can absolutely criticise Dawes for his "hands" at times - he does get into good positions and drop marks he shouldn't. What can't be faulted is his hardness - his willingness to tackle, split packs, block, shepherd, chase, create stoppages. His 1% er's are what makes him a valuable footballer.

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Anyone have the weird problem of Pedersen being put in [brackets] automatically?

It's not a problem. It's only automatic when, as often happens, his name is misspelt with an "o" instead of the second "e". Next stop "Gartlett". Respect, blokes.

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It's not a problem. It's only automatic when, as often happens, his name is misspelt with an "o" instead of the second "e". Next stop "Gartlett". Respect, blokes.

Remember Maloney, Pettard and Trengrove?

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We can absolutely criticise Dawes for his "hands" at times - he does get into good positions and drop marks he shouldn't. What can't be faulted is his hardness - his willingness to tackle, split packs, block, shepherd, chase, create stoppages. His 1% er's are what makes him a valuable footballer.

I agree, but apparently some don't. (*cough mos64 cough*) I struggle to think what game some on here watch at times.

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It's not a problem. It's only automatic when, as often happens, his name is misspelt with an "o" instead of the second "e". Next stop "Gartlett". Respect, blokes.

the brackets are way more annoying than a minor mis-spelling

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Remember Maloney, Pettard and Trengrove?

The best was Gary Lyons

On a related note, it annoys me no end the way commentators pronounce Vlaustin, as if it were spelled Vlaustone. Grrrr

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The best was Gary Lyons

On a related note, it annoys me no end the way commentators pronounce Vlaustin, as if it were spelled Vlaustone. Grrrr

That is how it is pronounced, according to the man himself. I was annoyed by the same thing, so I Googled it and found one of his tweets.

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That is how it is pronounced, according to the man himself. I was annoyed by the same thing, so I Googled it and found one of his tweets.

Funny, it crossed my mind during the game that maybe they'd checked, but then I dismissed that idea and concluded I was definitely right!

:rolleyes:

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I'm not complaining, we had nearly 40 players out there again today, all fit, I spoke to Jack Grimes, he said the guys who missed out are all determined to get back in, there is no sulking

On another point, think the days of Fitzy the forward are over, spoke to a few of the 'Casey' players from the weekend, he had another solid game in defence, spoke to the man himself and he is feeling more and more comfortable back there.

I love moves like this. If he can become a decent FB/ruck option we have a long-term depth or better player in the wings.

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I love moves like this. If he can become a decent FB/ruck option we have a long-term depth or better player in the wings.

Well, for the next several years a reasonable 200cm defender will be handy against the likes of Daniher & Boyd & Cameron, who will grow too big & strong for T-Mac & Dunn.

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It's not a problem. It's only automatic when, as often happens, his name is misspelt with an "o" instead of the second "e". Next stop "Gartlett". Respect, blokes.

Correct. Just a bit of light hearted fun with the word censor I put on place a while ago.

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Pedersen waiting for a spot to open up through injury or suspension I reckon. If one of our key backs goes down I think it will be Frost into the backline and Pedo in as forward 2nd ruck.

As others have said, 'tis a marvellous position to be in isn't it?

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Pedersen waiting for a spot to open up through injury or suspension I reckon. If one of our key backs goes down I think it will be Frost into the backline and Pedo in as forward 2nd ruck.

As others have said, 'tis a marvellous position to be in isn't it?

Doubt it. Hasn't done any training with the ruck coaches, so why would you think that he's a potential 2nd ruck?

Pedersen is in the same boat as a few others. He would have to show amazing form at Casey to even be considered for senior selection. His omission from the 2 NAB Cup games is a sign that he's not part of Roos' plans. He's a player with some natural talent, but doesn't seem to have the competitive spirit to be an AFL player.

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Sorry Nasher mate, the commentators get it wrong every week. They always make it sound like 'vloss'- tin, instead of 'floss'- tone.

Link to a tigers article here : http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-25/how-do-you-say-vlastuin

Not a demons issue, so whatever I suppose.

I can't comment how they "always" do it because I don't watch Richmond that much, but the other night they were definitely saying "floss-stone". That is what prompted me to look it up, because I thought they'd lost the plot.

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Well, the next several years a reasonable 200cm defender will be handy against the likes of Daniher & Boyd & Cameron, who will grow too big & strong for T-Mac & Dunn.

Yes and fitzy has more speed than any of them including i suggest Frost, particularly in the first 20 meters.And like a lot of large forwards, they seem to get a great education for better forward plays by spending time in defence following A grade forwards around. Think David Neitz. He learnt so quickly that "Duck" Carey said he was the best tall defender he ever played on, then went back to the forward line and smashed them.

Yes, the more i think about it the more i think Fitz down back might well be another one of those Roosy smart moves.

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I can't comment how they "always" do it because I don't watch Richmond that much, but the other night they were definitely saying "floss-stone". That is what prompted me to look it up, because I thought they'd lost the plot.

You don't have the benefit of listening to SEN.

How his name was pronounced was discussed ad nauseum in the days after he was drafted.

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Yes and fitzy has more speed than any of them including i suggest Frost, particularly in the first 20 meters.And like a lot of large forwards, they seem to get a great education for better forward plays by spending time in defence following A grade forwards around. Think David Neitz. He learnt so quickly that "Duck" Carey said he was the best tall defender he ever played on, then went back to the forward line and smashed them.

Yes, the more i think about it the more i think Fitz down back might well be another one of those Roosy smart moves.

Or it could simply be that this is a last ditch attempt to save his career. He hasn't worked as a forward and he hasn't worked in the ruck.... so they've thrown him down back as he has nowhere else to go.

I'm happy to see the club shift players around and not rest on their laurels, but Fitzy is no David Neitz. He will need to do something unbelievably special to get another contract from here, which if he somehow produces will be fantastic, but I don't see it happening.

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We should have floated Fitzy to the dogs last trade period. Not good enough to fit in the forward line, no room in the backline, in fact, no room to squeeze him anywhere. He's toast.

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We should have floated Fitzy to the dogs last trade period. Not good enough to fit in the forward line, no room in the backline, in fact, no room to squeeze him anywhere. He's toast.

There is a thing called "depth"... a couple of injuries and he may well be required. Then again, I suppose there are those of us who need a "whipping boy" even when the future is looking brighter than it has been for a while.

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You call it a whipping boy, I call it saying it like it is. I will be proven right in time, and no it doesn't mean I'm dancing on any graves.

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