DemonLad5 1,642 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 what even is "steak knives"? surley pick 22 and 3 for howe and 6 is is unreasonable
SaberFang 7,151 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Getting Howe just for dropping 3 picks in your first rounder isn't reasonable for us, either.
fineviney 12 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Alot of the Howe + 6 for 3 + ?? has alot to do with what the recruiters feel is the talent gap between picks 3 & 6... could be losing how for nothing essentially, unless the steak knives are particularly sharp.
fineviney 12 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Parish or Curnow. Parish is more or less what our midfield needs to top it off, Curnow can help Hogan up forward and has midfield potential (likely won't ever be as rounded a mid as Parish). Aside from injury, high chance curnow could have been talked about as a top 3 pick anyway. Also can play mulitple roles, parish is a pure mid. Versatility is important. As for a 1st year forward coming in and having an impact with hogan, seems unlikely.
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 His kicking certainly seems like it would fit in well at Melbourne. I saw one pass into the 50 that fell well short and another that was over the head of the leading player. Also a couple of blind-turn-and-bomb-it-high moments. His hands seem pretty good though, and he has pace.
What 18,810 Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 This peanut better not choose the Pies over Gold Coast
HulkHogan 69 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Alot of the Howe + 6 for 3 + ?? has alot to do with what the recruiters feel is the talent gap between picks 3 & 6... could be losing how for nothing essentially, unless the steak knives are particularly sharp Definitely agree with you here, the talent in the draft varies, could essentially be losing nothing
DemonLad5 1,642 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 anyone know what day he gets back from Bali? [censored] me just make up your mind and let the offers roll in
Fat Tony 5,338 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Moving from #6 to #3 values Howe at #37 according to the AFL's FS points system. (The actual value will vary depending on the draft pool.) https://www.draftguru.com.au/pick-value-calculator#3,,|6,
DeeSpencer 26,716 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 If we do get pick 3, who do we take? Parish? Curnow? Francais? Maybe we see if Adelaide get involved with the Saints pick 5 and if so then we go harder for pick 3. Wayne Milera should be the guys for us. He's got all the moves, tackles well enough and almost always disposes the ball to a team mates advantage.
rjay 25,434 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Maybe we see if Adelaide get involved with the Saints pick 5 and if so then we go harder for pick 3. Wayne Milera should be the guys for us. He's got all the moves, tackles well enough and almost always disposes the ball to a team mates advantage. We won't need pick 3 for Milera...
SaberFang 7,151 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 It's possible his preferred destination is Gold Coast and he's just using Collingwood to get them to frantically up their price (they've already offered us a pretty sweet trade from what the journos claim -- clearly they see a list deficiency with Dixon leaving).
Pennant St Dee 13,473 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 5 So Macrae or Wines would have been 6?
dazzledavey36 56,441 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 So Macrae or Wines would have been 6? correct
jezhug 54 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Chuck in Gary Ablett Jr as the steak knives and it seems like a good deal! All kidding aside, any player on GC senior list would make a handy set of steak knives. Pick 3 would get us the best mid from the draft as the top two key position players look to be locked in to Carlton & Brisbane.
Deestroy All 14,266 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 well that wasn't much, to be frank The highlights must have been edited out.
KingDingAling 3,758 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Chuck in Gary Ablett Jr as the steak knives and it seems like a good deal! All kidding aside, any player on GC senior list would make a handy set of steak knives. Pick 3 would get us the best mid from the draft as the top two key position players look to be locked in to Carlton & Brisbane. Pick 3 IMO will get us the best kid in the draft - Francis. He is just dominant, both Brisbane and Carlton are making a mistake if they overlook Francis, I only assume that our football department also believes that. Time will tell I guess, as of yet, we don't actually know whether there is any substance to the pick swap with GC.
olisik 4,060 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Anyone have a link to proper Parish highlights?
CatFishPig 465 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Pick 3 IMO will get us the best kid in the draft - Francis. He is just dominant, both Brisbane and Carlton are making a mistake if they overlook Francis, I only assume that our football department also believes that. Time will tell I guess, as of yet, we don't actually know whether there is any substance to the pick swap with GC. Agreed, his highlights are of high standard.. Looks a player..
Middymalt 244 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 This is probably why we keep our cards close to our chest. The fact that Collingwood know we want one of their players (and he's already asked to be traded) works heavily against us getting the strongest currency for Howe now. Just look at the way Collingwood played the Beams trade last year as an example of how to play the system; they probably wanted Crisp all along but coerced Brisbane into "throwing him in" as a steak knives inclusion with 5 and 25. Lo and behold, the very next year he's performing like an A-grader. Something stinks about the way their club operates; everyone knows they're ruthlessly underhanded. They're just another club who tanked all those years ago to secure their players (and the shiny priority pick) for their premiership tilt. It wouldn't surprise me one iota if Collingwood had agreed to terms over a year ago and told him to underperform in 2015, so they could trade for him cheaply. At least when they tanked they picked the correct players and so Hawthorn
What 18,810 Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 Ashcroft confirmed that he has had discussions with the Demons on a swap of picks 3 and 6 as part of the Howe deal. Says hes just waiting to see if Howe wants to join GC.
dazzledavey36 56,441 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Wish the [censored] would hurry up and make a decision. Jas had basically 12 months and yet still to make a decision. Ps cannot believe K nob is censored..
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Wish the [censored] would hurry up and make a decision. Jas had basically 12 months and yet still to make a decision. Ps cannot believe K nob is censored.. calm...... GC have only just got the pick they need to give us
Guest Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Just go already Howe. He has had long enough to make a decision. I will be happy when he takes his elite running standards elsewhere
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 How long does it take to make up your mind? Seriously, this is a joke. He isn't even a free agent! Melbourne should tell his manager, we are making a deal with GC. If he doesn't like it, Jeremy can enjoy years of failure at Carlton.
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