Pretty well our first-choice HB line.

Not sure how much any of these are preventable. Note that the hamstrings etc. are all across the younger players. Short of not playing or training, not sure what more could/should be done, it just takes time for bodies to build up to the load of AFL.

Does seem to be a league-wide problem though, there are more than a few teams with injury lists that are as long/longer than ours.

Grimes is a depth player now, just as Matt Jones is. Handy back up, but an inherently flawed footballer.

Edited June 27, 201510 yr by AdamFarr

I think VandenBerg is the real deal.

His presence, pressure and poise at AFL level after an interrupted pre-season has been amazing. Give him a couple of pre-seasons refining his craft and engine under a good development regime (as opposed to Ainsley!) will have him flourish in a Barlow like way... an great find.

Not to mention the disposal efficiency statistic is probably the most misleading and pointless stat going around. He does need to improve his game though and that's a decision making thing.

For our long term growth, I think not getting multiple games into Salem and kent at the moment is the most telling. They are crucial for us going forward, far more so than Frost.

Disagree. As a bigger bloke, he will probably need more time. At the very least, it's just as important that we are getting games into him too.

Edited June 27, 201510 yr by AdamFarr

No, that stat doesn't tell you anything.

For one, it's disposal efficiency, not kicking efficiency. So theoretically the low value could be because his handpassing is appalling.

However, as has been done to death on this site, the DE statistic is a waste of space and says very little about a player's ability to dispose of the ball.

Huh? I wasn't talking about the DE stat and I happen to agree with you. I was commenting on how Vandemon's kicking seems to have gone to the shitter lately

Huh? I wasn't talking about the DE stat and I happen to agree with you. I was commenting on how Vandemon's kicking seems to have gone to the shitter lately

Whoops, sorry mate, was meaning to quote the post you quoted, not yours.

Do you guys think vandenBerg and Salem will come straight back into the side? We have a hat-trick of winnable games after Darwin so I want us to get our best players in fast.

I think VandenBerg is the real deal.

His presence, pressure and poise at AFL level after an interrupted pre-season has been amazing. Give him a couple of pre-seasons refining his craft and engine under a good development regime (as opposed to Ainsley!) will have him flourish in a Barlow like way... an great find.

When 20 touches and 5 tackles becomes the expectation, as it is with all inside mids, we'll see how he stands up.

I want to believe, but I've been scarred by a succession of players who look good with no expectations and then fall away.

Evans, Nicholson, Terlich, MJones the recent examples.

When 20 touches and 5 tackles becomes the expectation, as it is with all inside mids, we'll see how he stands up.

I want to believe, but I've been scarred by a succession of players who look good with no expectations and then fall away.

Evans, Nicholson, Terlich, MJones the recent examples.

I can't remember any of those guys dominating games in the same way vandenBerg has though. Maybe Nicholson once in 2011 when we beat Richmond, and Evans' last quarter against GWS in 2013, but that's about it.

I can't remember any of those guys dominating games in the same way vandenBerg has though. Maybe Nicholson once in 2011 when we beat Richmond, and Evans' last quarter against GWS in 2013, but that's about it.

Yep, not apt comparisons.

MELBOURNE

Injury list as at 30 June, 2015 according to The AFL website *

Jack Fitzpatrick Adductor Test

Sam Frost Toe 2-4 weeks

Jack Grimes Thumb 1-3 weeks

Dean Kent Hamstring 2-3 weeks

Cameron Pedersen Wrist Season

Christian Petracca* Knee Season

Christian Salem Hamstring 3 weeks

Jack Trengove Foot Season

Aaron vandenBerg Hamstring 2 weeks

* unlikely to look anything like the club's official injury list which comes out tomorrow

MELBOURNE

Injury list as at 30 June, 2015 according to The AFL website *

Jack Fitzpatrick Adductor Test

Sam Frost Toe 2-4 weeks

Jack Grimes Thumb 1-3 weeks

Dean Kent Hamstring 2-3 weeks

Cameron Pedersen Wrist Season

Christian Petracca* Knee Season

Christian Salem Hamstring 3 weeks

Jack Trengove Foot Season

Aaron vandenBerg Hamstring 2 weeks

* unlikely to look anything like the club's official injury list which comes out tomorrow

Yesdont really trust the AFL injury list - Fitzy still test didn't he play 1-2 weeks ago?

Still good to see Frost, Grimes, Kent and Vanders getting closer. Salem obviously a little annoying.

Frost and Kent are a little unclear - they have been out for so long that I believe Mission said they will need a solid chunk of training before selection.

So maybe add 2-3 weeks on top? Vanders hopefully can come in for Essendon.

Hopefully we can get through the next 1-2 weeks without injury.

Drove past Goschs today and saw Vanders, Salem n Kent all jogging at a decent clip. Kent still looks very sore though. Could not believe the size of his upper legs, almost looks a little overweight but i guess that can happen when you dont train for 10 weeks. Great to see them all have a run though!

Drove past Goschs today and saw Vanders, Salem n Kent all jogging at a decent clip. Kent still looks very sore though. Could not believe the size of his upper legs, almost looks a little overweight but i guess that can happen when you dont train for 10 weeks. Great to see them all have a run though!

Can't wait to see these three back in the side. Best 22 by a long shot.

Lamumba out with foot injury. Where did that come from??

Here we go again:-

MELBOURNE

Injury list as at 7 July, 2015 according to The AFL website *

Angus Brayshaw Neck Test

Sam Frost Toe 2-4 weeks

Jack Grimes Thumb Test

Dean Kent Hamstring 2 weeks

Cameron Pedersen Wrist Season

Christian Petracca* Knee Season

Christian Salem Hamstring 3 weeks

Jack Trengove Foot Season

Aaron vandenBerg Hamstring Test

* unlikely to look anything like the club's official injury list which sometimes comes out on Tuesdays or Wednesdays

Here we go again:-

MELBOURNE

Injury list as at 7 July, 2015 according to The AFL website *

Angus Brayshaw Neck Test

Sam Frost Toe 2-4 weeks

Jack Grimes Thumb Test

Dean Kent Hamstring 2 weeks

Cameron Pedersen Wrist Season

Christian Petracca* Knee Season

Christian Salem Hamstring 3 weeks

Jack Trengove Foot Season

Aaron vandenBerg Hamstring Test

* unlikely to look anything like the club's official injury list which sometimes comes out on Tuesdays or Wednesdays

Confused?

This is the one from the MFC. Sam Frost now out to 5 weeks.

Melbourne injury list: round 15

Angus Brayshaw (neck) – test

Sam Frost (toe) – 5 weeks

Jack Grimes (thumb) – test

Dean Kent (hamstring) – 2 weeks

Heritier Lumumba (toe) – test

Cameron Pedersen (wrist) – season

Christian Petracca (knee) – season

Christian Salem (hamstring) – 3 weeks

Jack Trengove (foot) – season

Aaron vandenBerg (hamstring) – test

Here we go again:-

MELBOURNE

Injury list as at 7 July, 2015 according to The AFL website *

Angus Brayshaw Neck Test

Sam Frost Toe 2-4 weeks

Jack Grimes Thumb Test

Dean Kent Hamstring 2 weeks

Cameron Pedersen Wrist Season

Christian Petracca* Knee Season

Christian Salem Hamstring 3 weeks

Jack Trengove Foot Season

Aaron vandenBerg Hamstring Test

* unlikely to look anything like the club's official injury list which sometimes comes out on Wednesdays

The only point of difference is Frost - listed as 5 weeks on the MFC website, complete with quotes from Misson

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2015-07-07/trio-set-for-return

(I've re-ordered the list)

Melbourne injury list: round 15

Angus Brayshaw (neck) – test

Jack Grimes (thumb) – test

Aaron vandenBerg (hamstring) – test

Heritier Lumumba (toe) – test

Dean Kent (hamstring) – 2 weeks

Christian Salem (hamstring) – 3 weeks

Sam Frost (toe) – 5 weeks

Jack Trengove (foot) – season

Cameron Pedersen (wrist) – season

Christian Petracca (knee) – season

The list is starting to look a lot better. Hopefully we get a bit more of a look at Kent and Salem before the year is through.

Frost's injury was 11 weeks, 2 days ago FFS

Frost has been out for a long time and just started running outside so that might explain the difference. Still 5 weeks though!

Maybe 3 weeks training then 2 weeks increasing game time at VFL level?

Or

2 weeks running followed by 3 weeks of training

Edited July 7, 201510 yr by Young Dee

Frost might just be "season" as he would be available for round 20. Assume thats 3-4 weeks of the season. He might as well benefit from playing Full Back at Casey for their last 3 weeks.

Hopefully Harry won't feel the need to compete with Frost's Bob Marley-proportioned toe injury.

Frost's injury was 11 weeks, 2 days ago FFS

Frost might just be "season" as he would be available for round 20. Assume thats 3-4 weeks of the season. He might as well benefit from playing Full Back at Casey for their last 3 weeks.

Hopefully Harry won't feel the need to compete with Frost's Bob Marley-proportioned toe injury.

Well, does anyone here actually know just what injury Frost suffered

All we hear is "toe"

Some here seem to think he is being a big if a wimp, but really what would they know?

I'm not saying anything as remotely controversial as Frost being a wimp - just that the MFC are keeping his death from toe-cancer and the involvement of the CIA under wraps.

Frost has been out for a long time and just started running outside so that might explain the difference. Still 5 weeks though!

Maybe 3 weeks training then 2 weeks increasing game time at VFL level?

Or

2 weeks running followed by 3 weeks of training

He'll be back in time for the finals.

Ohh hang on ...

Try running or jumping with a stuffed toe and see how you go. Its a delicate injury that takes time to get over.

The overreactions are hilarious.