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There's no official list yet but it seems that it's possible to compile a rough injury list as follows:-

Jack Trengove (navicular) - indefinite

Christian Petracca (ACL) - indefinite

Alex Neal-Bullen (knee) ?

Bernie Vince (hamstring) ?

Jeremy Howe (hamstring) ?

Angus Brayshaw (concussion) - 1 week ?

Max King (?) ?

Some others like Jack Watts and Aaron Vandenberg are just coming out of rehab.

If you have reliable information on the above or any others I might have missed out on, please provide it here.

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There's no official list yet but it seems that it's possible to compile a rough injury list as follows:-

Jack Trengove (navicular) - indefinite

Christian Petracca (ACL) - indefinite

Alex Neal-Bullen (knee) ?

Bernie Vince (hamstring) ?

Jeremy Howe (hamstring) ?

Angus Brayshaw (concussion) - 1 week ?

Max King (?) ?

Some others like Jack Watts and Aaron Vandenberg are just coming out of rehab.

If you have reliable information on the above or any others I might have missed out on, please provide it here.

You have covered all I know about, apart from Mitch White (toe) and Jayden Hunt (back) both still on restricted, although joining in more drills

Not sure what the issue is with King, will endeavour to find out, if he is doing off legs, he must be on a restricted program

For Vince and Howe, I would start at 3 weeks maybe

Neal -Bullen another 2 weeks or so, he is still straight line running, he will need to get confidence in the knee

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I'd also be curious to know who the club consider as having not completed a "full pre-season" as I am always surprised to hear how many players are retrospectively referred to as having not done a pre-season 12 months down the track. By the training reports it sounds like nearly all the players are participating most sessions in some form, however many on restrictive programs for various reasons.

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I'd also be curious to know who the club consider as having not completed a "full pre-season" as I am always surprised to hear how many players are retrospectively referred to as having not done a pre-season 12 months down the track. By the training reports it sounds like nearly all the players are participating most sessions in some form, however many on restrictive programs for various reasons.

All the first year kids regardless of injury. Trengove obviously. Watts. Vince. King.

They are the obvious ones. I think Howe did enough prior to injury to say he's done a preseason and I think Terlich and Spencer were back running and then training early enough.

There are probably others besides the new guys, Dean Kent might be one, who can lay claim to improvement with another good full preseason, as those above (Howe, Terlich, Spencer) might be able to. But it's not a reason to blame poor form.

I can understand players being keen to improve at the end of a year and saying things like 'I want to attack pre-season in order to be fitter and improve', but I don't want to here about guys not performing due to lack of preseason. If they haven't done the work then get them out of games and in to a month long training block then put them back in!

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I'd also be curious to know who the club consider as having not completed a "full pre-season"

In an interview with Roos, there was a number put on the sessions a little while back to "qualify", thought it was something like 25.

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Yes I recall him saying this. Would that mean in Roos eyes someone like Watts could be considered as having done a quality pre season even though he has rarely been in the main group?

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MELBOURNE

Chris Dawes Suspended Round 2, premiership season

Jeremy Howe Hamstring 3-4 weeks

Alex Neal-Bullen Knee 4-6 weeks

Christian Petracca Knee Season

Jack Trengove Foot Indefinite

Bernie Vince Hamstring 3-4 weeks

Posted

Jack Trengove is already as far as i'm aware out of a moon boot, so in theory should be running a little ways down the track, i personally don't think they will risk him this year, even if he is right, but is there any chance he could reach the point of having ticked most of the boxes of being available to play before the year is out?


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MELBOURNE

Chris Dawes Suspended Round 2, premiership season

Jeremy Howe Hamstring 3-4 weeks

Alex Neal-Bullen Knee 4-6 weeks

Christian Petracca Knee Season

Jack Trengove Foot Indefinite

Bernie Vince Hamstring 3-4 weeks

Compliments of AFL injury list

Posted

MELBOURNE

Chris Dawes Suspended Round 2, premiership season

Jeremy Howe Hamstring 3-4 weeks

Alex Neal-Bullen Knee 4-6 weeks

Christian Petracca Knee Season

Jack Trengove Foot Indefinite

Bernie Vince Hamstring 3-4 weeks

So Howe did his hammy on Jan 21 and is still 3-4 weeks away.

I count that as a 9 week hammy. Must have been on the very serious end.

I guess there's a chance he might be back for the Essendon game on mar 22.

I have a feeling Vince won't be playing in round 1.

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I'd also be curious to know who the club consider as having not completed a "full pre-season" as I am always surprised to hear how many players are retrospectively referred to as having not done a pre-season 12 months down the track. By the training reports it sounds like nearly all the players are participating most sessions in some form, however many on restrictive programs for various reasons.

there's a whole book of tickets, don't worry about that ;)

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You have covered all I know about, apart from Mitch White (toe) and Jayden Hunt (back) both still on restricted, although joining in more drills

Not sure what the issue is with King, will endeavour to find out, if he is doing off legs, he must be on a restricted program

For Vince and Howe, I would start at 3 weeks maybe

Neal -Bullen another 2 weeks or so, he is still straight line running, he will need to get confidence in the knee

TDI, is Howe further advanced than Vince in his hamstring recovery?

It's looking like 9 weeks on the sidelines for Howe which is incredibly long for a hamstring injury I would've thought.

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TDI, is Howe further advanced than Vince in his hamstring recovery?

It's liking like 9 weeks on the sidelines for Howe which is incredibly long for a hamstring injury I would've thought.

I saw him doing laps at training like 3 weeks ago and he looked absolutely fine to me

Talk about being ultra-cautious..

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I guess that all clubs are trying to get a full list available for Round 1.....which is still 5 weeks away....and will build their players up to get to that point

I actually trust the medical dept these days

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I saw him doing laps at training like 3 weeks ago and he looked absolutely fine to me

Talk about being ultra-cautious..

Howie is champing at the bit, he was very descriptive at the Intra Club when I asked him how frustrating it was, club is being ultra cautious with every injury they have, and so they should be, if everything goes to plan and we have a bit of luck, we will have 2 players out, which isn't good, it's excellent

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Howie is champing at the bit, he was very descriptive at the Intra Club when I asked him how frustrating it was, club is being ultra cautious with every injury they have, and so they should be, if everything goes to plan and we have a bit of luck, we will have 2 players out, which isn't good, it's excellent

Agree, good position to be at start of season. Much rather the club be cautious at this stage so that players do not carry niggles, soreness into season proper. With the pressure on to play I always prefer to see the club allow a player more time rather than less. We do have greater depth this year so if we start winning some games early that takes the pressure off injured players.

As a matter of interest who are the medicos? Not talking Misson or physios but real dinky die doctors.

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Agree, good position to be at start of season. Much rather the club be cautious at this stage so that plouldayers do not carry niggles, soreness into season proper. With the pressure on to play I always prefer to see the club allow a player more time rather than less. We do have greater depth this year so if we start winning some games early that takes the pressure off injured players.

As a matter of interest who are the medicos? Not talking Misson or physios but real dinky die doctors.

Couldn't name them, which is a surprise for me, think they are listed on club website, apart from the physios, there is normally at least one medico at training


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thanks TDI just looked at the website ..quite an eye opener.we have 4 medicos headed up by a sports physician, dr paul blackman from olympic park sports medicine, a club doctor, a match day doctor and a VFL doctor. compared to the past that is impressive, we also have 2 physios including the well regarded gary nicholls. back in the northey days we did have the highly regarded dr peter brukner from olympic park sports medicine and also dr andrew daff.

after a period when we looked light on in this department we now look to have a solid group of medicos who presumably will engage in peer group reviews of player injuries and rehab. when you look at the support staff listed it is another example that at least on paper we have a super professional football dept.

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Almost missed it but the following is the club's injury list issued prior to today's game:-

Jeremy Howe (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks

Dean Kent (heel) – test

Alex Neal-Bullen (knee) 3-4 weeks

Christian Petracca (knee) – season

Jack Trengove (foot) – indefinite

Bernie Vince (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks

Posted

Almost missed it but the following is the club's injury list issued prior to today's game:-

Jeremy Howe (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks

Dean Kent (heel) – test

Alex Neal-Bullen (knee) 3-4 weeks

Christian Petracca (knee) – season

Jack Trengove (foot) – indefinite

Bernie Vince (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks

This list is the players who were missing at the weekend - either injured or rested.

Jeremy Howe (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks

Jayden Hunt (?)

Dean Kent (heel) – test

Max King (?)

Alex Neal-Bullen (knee) 3-4 weeks

Christian Petracca (knee) – season

Aidan Reilly (?)

Dean Terlich (?)

Jack Trengove (foot) – indefinite

Bernie Vince (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks

Mitchell White (?)

I'm guessing that most of those with a question mark didn't really need a rest this weekend which suggests that the mystery injury of the week thread will be busy again this year.

Posted

This list is the players who were missing at the weekend - either injured or rested.

Jeremy Howe (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks

Jayden Hunt (?)

Dean Kent (heel) – test

Max King (?)

Alex Neal-Bullen (knee) 3-4 weeks

Christian Petracca (knee) – season

Aidan Reilly (?)

Dean Terlich (?)

Jack Trengove (foot) – indefinite

Bernie Vince (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks

Mitchell White (?)

I'm guessing that most of those with a question mark didn't really need a rest this weekend which suggests that the mystery injury of the week thread will be busy again this year.

White's coming back from his toe injury still. Not injured, but not ready to play a practice match when the combo of rest and rehab is better for him. Same goes for Terlich and Riley, both were running extra after training the other day. I'm not sure on Hunt and King but they both missed a lot of time last year as well and King's missed training time this year. Building their bodies maybe more important than early season games, or maybe they just weren't picked to give more Casey guys a run.

Either way it's 3 weeks until round 1 and these guys don't seem to be in contention, it's also a month or so until the VFL serious matches start. For their own sake I hope Terlich and Riley are declared fully fit and can start playing practice matches, but I don't think it's a conspiracy.

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