Jury has gone out yet.

Be Careful of the cart and horse

I take great joy in noticing all the Journo fanboys currently scribbling like headless chooks. Inventing and recovering old ideas as though fact. I marvel at how the whole thing has gone dead quiet once they kicked the druglords out of the court. If as suggested by the BF poster that some have 'turned' ( and btw I have that postings should anyone want me to pm...lol ) then he wont be alone. The ridiculous stance that EFC , Hird, Little by association as well as Dink and Charltless ( aka Dumb and Dumber ) is laughable and about to be thrown under the roller.

this has been a game of chicken...or 'blink". The bad guys thought they could outlast the determinations of WADA/ASADA. That was there only hope....time. Well ...Times up !! almost

melbourne's own don quixote or victoria's dreyfus

don't answer - rhetorical

essendons Quiote...not ours.... just clarifying DC

I take great joy in noticing all the Journo fanboys currently scribbling like headless chooks. Inventing and recovering old ideas as though fact. I marvel at how the whole thing has gone dead quiet once they kicked the druglords out of the court. If as suggested by the BF poster that some have 'turned' ( and btw I have that postings should anyone want me to pm...lol ) then he wont be alone. The ridiculous stance that EFC , Hird, Little by association as well as Dink and Charltless ( aka Dumb and Dumber ) is laughable and about to be thrown under the roller.

this has been a game of chicken...or 'blink". The bad guys thought they could outlast the determinations of WADA/ASADA. That was there only hope....time. Well ...Times up !! almost

bub, i take it you don't believe mr dank, as he promised, is going to ride into the afl hearing on his white charger and prove everyone did no wrong?

From SEN:

Essendon players will not participate in any AFL-sanctioned games unless they are guaranteed any possible suspensions will be backdated to last year, says Mark Robinson. The chief football writer for the Herald Sun believes the Bombers will not participate unless they can be assured any suspension will start from the last time they played in 2014.

They must not be confident they can establish they are innocent. Hey here's any idea - they can threaten to boycott the entire home and away season unless their suspensions are backdated as well.

From SEN:

Essendon players will not participate in any AFL-sanctioned games unless they are guaranteed any possible suspensions will be backdated to last year, says Mark Robinson. The chief football writer for the Herald Sun believes the Bombers will not participate unless they can be assured any suspension will start from the last time they played in 2014.

They must not be confident they can establish they are innocent. Hey here's any idea - they can threaten to boycott the entire home and away season unless their suspensions are backdated as well.

Seems to be the case...

From SEN:

Essendon players will not participate in any AFL-sanctioned games unless they are guaranteed any possible suspensions will be backdated to last year, says Mark Robinson.

Looks like our game against them in the NAB cup might not be all that challenging - or as challenging as what our players need. Far from ideal.

From SEN:

Essendon players will not participate in any AFL-sanctioned games unless they are guaranteed any possible suspensions will be backdated to last year, says Mark Robinson. The chief football writer for the Herald Sun believes the Bombers will not participate unless they can be assured any suspension will start from the last time they played in 2014.

They must not be confident they can establish they are innocent. Hey here's any idea - they can threaten to boycott the entire home and away season unless their suspensions are backdated as well.

Yet another example of these arrogant knobs thinking they run the game.....

Get the sledgehammers ready AFL...

From SEN:

Essendon players will not participate in any AFL-sanctioned games unless they are guaranteed any possible suspensions will be backdated to last year, says Mark Robinson. The chief football writer for the Herald Sun believes the Bombers will not participate unless they can be assured any suspension will start from the last time they played in 2014.

They must not be confident they can establish they are innocent. Hey here's any idea - they can threaten to boycott the entire home and away season unless their suspensions are backdated as well.

This is getting to Monty Python levels (if not already). So if the AFL don't backdate their suspensions, they will suspend themselves?? I hope whatever they took was performance-enhancing, because it doesn't sound like it was improving their thinking skills ... :)

no shortage of chutzpah out at the hangar. that's for sure

I almost threw up watching the news and hird carrying on about how hard done by he and the players are in all this, still won't take any responsibility for what happened, hope he gets banned for life

no shortage of chutzpah out at the hangar. that's for sure

they're fiddling on the roof !!! ...bound to fall off anytime soon

Looks like our game against them in the NAB cup might not be all that challenging - or as challenging as what our players need. Far from ideal.

This is a concern 'bing', be interesting to see Dill's plan B.

You can't boycott something you're already suspended for.

they're fiddling on the roof !!! ...bound to fall off anytime soon

They're fiddling with themselves

You can't boycott something you're already suspended for.

Quite

You can't boycott something you're already suspended for.

Sort of shows that they just don't and never haver, quite got it !!!

"Our players have less rights than the average Australian citizen"

Uhh hirdy, its not about their rights as citizens. Its about the contracts they signed to be able to play afl and the conditions that then apply. They arent going to jail, they will just not be able to play AFL.

If i signed a contract and part of it was that i would be sacked or suspended if i failed a drugs test or if there was evidenceto suggest i had taken drugs, id expect to be sacked or suspended!

Hird considers High Court action

Two years on: Key decisions remain to be made in Essendon supplements saga

"But he continues to strongly defend his legal action, saying the aim has been to help create a fair system for the players."

What a hero - the Martin Luther-King of AFL players. Not only a great coach, but a legal reformer. Perhaps he should have reformed the rules before he oversaw that 'pharmacological experiment'.

"But he continues to strongly defend his legal action, saying the aim has been to help create a fair system for the players."

What a hero - the Martin Luther-King of AFL players. Not only a great coach, but a legal reformer. Perhaps he should have reformed the rules before he oversaw that 'pharmacological experiment'.

If he had an issue with the system he should have bought it up when ASADA was formed and before he signed his AFL coach registration.

"But I felt very strongly about the fact that our players weren't given the right to go through a lawful investigation.

"This was not about suppressing evidence, this was not about trying to get the players off on a technicality.

"It was about trying to get the players a fair, I suppose, system.

"We were forced to go in and give evidence... and we weren't provided with the confidentiality that one would expect."

Oh, please. That ridiculous ego. It's so large now earth's gravitational pull won't stop him floating into the stratosphere.

Once again, not one thing about Hird's campaign is about confronting his treacherous and illegal acts. Nor the way he utterly betrayed every Essendon player and supporter with this drug program. Everything is simply about suppressing the natural course of justice and from being punished for the wrongs he's committed. He's a man guilty of murder arguing his fingerprints on the murder weapon are invalid evidence because the police didn't put it in a plastic bag.

It hasn't been easy being a Melbourne supporter for the last 8 years, but I am sooooooooo glad I'm not an Essendon supporter. They have only seen the tip of the 'pain iceberg'. Couldn't have happened to a nicer club!

Oh, please. That ridiculous ego. It's so large now earth's gravitational pull won't stop him floating into the stratosphere.

Once again, not one thing about Hird's campaign is about confronting his treacherous and illegal acts. Nor the way he utterly betrayed every Essendon player and supporter with this drug program. Everything is simply about suppressing the natural course of justice and from being punished for the wrongs he's committed. He's a man guilty of murder arguing his fingerprints on the murder weapon are invalid evidence because the police didn't put it in a plastic bag.

Pretty good too considering that asada had both the federal police and deloitte investigate for leaks and both found nothing! I wonder where the leaks came from...

Also it occurs that if an essendon player has told the truth that all the privacy would be needed to protect his identity from essendon fans. We saw how essendon went after kyle riemers.

The Higher he climbs the harder the fall

Go to the High Court Hird

You have my permission.

Between you and Abbott i am eating a lot of popcorn and choc tops

Such great entertainment!!

"Our players have less rights than the average Australian citizen"

As has been pointed out above, the players freely signed their contracts to play in the AFL and those contracts entitle them to substantial pay for their labour (which incidentally is far more than the average working Australian citizen gets).

When you boil it down, the Federal Court justices upheld the contractual rights of the parties involved in the dispute which Hird took all the way to its full bench.

If Hird is so concerned about the law that he thinks it's bad for our citizenry, then he should take it up with his local representatives in Parliament and not with the courts, which in this case correctly interpreted the existing law.