No Murphy will sux, liked listening to him.

  On 25/03/2015 at 23:12, AzzKikA said:

Why the hell have an Essendrugs player on, there are other clubs you know!

Having an Essendon player on is topical and gets interest and reactions from viewers.

  On 26/03/2015 at 00:09, america de cali said:

Having an Essendon player on is topical and gets interest and reactions from viewers.

having dracula or the boston strangler on would likewise get interest and reactions

  On 26/03/2015 at 00:14, daisycutter said:

having dracula or the boston strangler on would likewise get interest and reactions

Who did they play for?

  On 26/03/2015 at 00:09, america de cali said:

Having an Essendon player on is topical and gets interest and reactions from viewers.

And people wouldn't be interested and they wouldn't get reactions if Judd was on, or Cochin or any number of other stars? The Essendrug player will NOT talk about the saga so i think it is a silly comment.

  On 26/03/2015 at 00:19, america de cali said:

Who did they play for?

not for....with

  On 25/03/2015 at 22:30, It said:

Oh! How do you know? Do you know who the upset mother was. I thought no one knew.

According to the Ess board on BF, Hal Hunter didn't fit the profile of the player (a 19 year old). Hunter may have been 18 at the time.

Opinion of some Ess supporters was that 'Sarah' was Heppel's mum.

  On 25/03/2015 at 21:38, Dr John Dee said:

That would be Warwick Hadfield I assume. He's so far into Essendon's pocket that he couldn't see anything for the lint.

The same Warwick Hadfield who from time to time has said the players were injected with Thymomodulin. Sure Warwick - obviously believes what his mates Martin Hardie and Bruce Francis tell him. Is also mates with Hird so the lint reference is spot on.

This Tuesday should be very interesting if there is a Bummers player on with Robbo. Be either giving each other a reacharound or crying.

  On 25/03/2015 at 21:22, Lucifer said:

Xarron and others make some good points. The AFL is not to blame for kids using drugs in sport or anywhere. However, there have been various times where an AFL player has been in the public eye over a drug issue. The AFL did not take those opportunities to take a public stand and condemn drugs. I don't recall a 'No drugs in sport' commentary from them. Maybe Andy D said it once or twice re EFC saga, not sure.

I commend the AFL for their public stand and campaigns on racial abuse, gay rights, women in the AFL, indigenous players in the AFL etc. They have been excellent in publicly supporting a range of social issues in sport.

But they have publicly remained silent when it came to condemning drugs in sport/AFL. One would be forgiven in thinking it is paying lip service to the problem. Some would think trying to sweep it under the carpet. Others may think the silence is tacit acceptance. By staying silent there hasn't been leadership coming from the AFL. Would it make a difference to junior AFL. Who knows.

Has the horse bolted? Maybe I was hasty in making that comparison. But the AFL need to find their voice and have a 'no drugs in sport' public campaign because as Pigdog noted the problem at junior and country AFL has been known for several years.

'No drugs in sport' needs to be a new mantra by the AFL. It will take some courage (and slick PR) to do that in the aftermath of the EFC saga but it does need to take leadership on a major issue already affecting its future players.

You make a good point about the lack of emphasis on the "no drugs in sport message". However, the AFL has a problem in that it can't pre-empt the tribunal decision. How will it look if the tribunal comes to a not guilty verdict or if the players are found guilty and get off with a light rap over the knuckles as some in the media would have us believe?

  On 26/03/2015 at 00:53, AzzKikA said:

And people wouldn't be interested and they wouldn't get reactions if Judd was on, or Cochin or any number of other stars? The Essendrug player will NOT talk about the saga so i think it is a silly comment.

Having people like on here talking about the having Essendon players on the show is what the media want. Getting some sort of outrage is part of the game. Style is more important than substance for them. Negativity, entertainment and controversy is better for ratings than rational talk.

Edited by america de cali, Today, 01:40 PM.

I clearly remember this article from 2012 where the AFL came all guns blazing on sports scientists ... Yet the message mustn't have got to Doc Reid and J Hird.

AFL's war with sports scientists

  On 25/03/2015 at 11:06, Moonshadow said:

Pardon my naivety, but can someone please explain to me what advantage ice would give a footy player who was under it's influence? I'd imagine it would make them more fearless and more prone to taking risks on the field, but I can't believe it would improve their decision making, fitness, steadiness under pressure or skills in general. And I can't believe it would aid post game recovery or speed of injury recovery. Sounds like a bit of a media urban myth, or at least I hope it's a myth.

Can any doctors in the house provide an expert opinion?

edit: As an aside, I have a friend who's grandmother trained dish lickers in Sydney and became the industry supplier for speed and coke for greyhounds back in the day, around the 1950's. He said she told him that it shortened the dog's career considerably and basically destroyed it's body, but made them run bloody fast for a little while. Surely there are no coaches or club officials in local comps stupid enough to dope players with ice?

Never underestimate the power of frozen water Mr Moon.

Forgot this morning.

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Chortle, chortle...

http://insidesauce.com/essendon-consider-ben-cousins-as-top-up-player-after-explosive-burst-through-congested-perth-arcade/

Just saw the photo of jobe and co with their sashes made up of poppies for anzac day.

Nearly threw up

  On 26/03/2015 at 13:09, biggestred said:

Just saw the photo of jobe and co with their sashes made up of poppies for anzac day.

Nearly threw up

How the hell Essendon can still be part of Anzac Day is disgusting

the AFL really have no class or respect

Another day beckons.

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  On 26/03/2015 at 00:19, america de cali said:

Who did they play for?

Chris Lewis and Tony Lockett.

Just heard on 3aw breakfast that Ross Stevenson has heard from legal sources that the verdict will be that the players have no case to answer which Ross believes is the worst case senario for Essendon as WADA will then takeover.

  On 26/03/2015 at 21:29, djr said:

Just heard on 3aw breakfast that Ross Stevenson has heard from legal sources that the verdict will be that the players have no case to answer which Ross believes is the worst case senario for Essendon as WADA will then takeover.

Was that Ross' rumor on rumor files?

  On 26/03/2015 at 21:29, djr said:

Just heard on 3aw breakfast that Ross Stevenson has heard from legal sources that the verdict will be that the players have no case to answer which Ross believes is the worst case senario for Essendon as WADA will then takeover.

Bit early for April 1

Still baffled as to how the AFL Tribunal is allowed to decide this case

  On 26/03/2015 at 22:08, hogans_heroes said:

Still baffled as to how the AFL Tribunal is allowed to decide this case

they may hand down a decision, but they wont DECIDE this

Just listened to Gil on 3aw.

He is already apologising for the players.

Said he believed the players did not know what they were given.

Preparing the wet tram tickets already.

I have never heard a worse performance by the chief of a sport organisation.

Neil Mitchell said to him that is no excuse!

Just past it off.

P iss poor.

This guy is a disaster, the AFL is in danger with this guy at the helm.

Gil...doesnt get it.

Thats OK...some others do...they'll correct his errors