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[P-man 13,224]

Chip turned off after Round 2. Then he played as a forward which is not his job.

That is the reality.

An alternate reality perhaps.

[Demon trucker 1,776]

Even at the dees you have to play well to get in the top 10 in th b&f, to say he turned off after round 2 is rewriting history, and just plan stupid thing to say.

[old dee 22,926]

Even at the dees you have to play well to get in the top 10 in th b&f, to say he turned off after round 2 is rewriting history, and just plan stupid thing to say.

Not sure that is correct, the tenth best player on the MFC list is pushing the bounds of ordinary at most other clubs

[jnrmac 19,049]

Even at the dees you have to play well to get in the top 10 in th b&f, to say he turned off after round 2 is rewriting history, and just plan stupid thing to say.

Nah, you just have to play relatively consistently. Every player gets votes so its biased towards those who play the most games.

[Sir Why You Little 34,580]

Even at the dees you have to play well to get in the top 10 in th b&f, to say he turned off after round 2 is rewriting history, and just plan stupid thing to say.

Sorry. He actually "turned off" during the Round 2 game if you watch carefully you will see...

[P-man 13,224]

Sorry. He actually "turned off" during the Round 2 game if you watch carefully you will see...

lol

So just to be clear, he came into the season mentally prepared, ready to go, and that mindset lasted a grand total of two weeks?

[Sir Why You Little 34,580]

lol

So just to be clear, he came into the season mentally prepared, ready to go, and that mindset lasted a grand total of two weeks?

once the head drops P Man respect for your club is severed...yes it can be salvaged but it is never the same. My gut feel is that Chip was out before round 1 but had to keep it quiet.

The interview with Matt Burgan was excriutiating, suprised the MFC let that get ou to the supporters

So no i don't think the mindset lasted even 2 weeks

[P-man 13,224]

once the head drops P Man respect for your club is severed...yes it can be salvaged but it is never the same. My gut feel is that Chip was out before round 1 but had to keep it quiet.

The interview with Matt Burgan was excriutiating, suprised the MFC let that get ou to the supporters

So no i don't think the mindset lasted even 2 weeks

Saying he was "switched off" before the season began is less absurd than saying he "switched off" during Round 2, but it's still incorrect. You are blatantly rewriting history and it makes you look petty.

In round 4 he had 24 possessions, 6 inside 50s and kicked 2 goals. In a role that was foreign to him. And you're saying he was "switched off" by that stage?

He tailed off at the end of the year like most of our players, partly because he is not a leader's backside, but that doesn't override his other contributions on the field throughout the year.

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[Sir Why You Little 34,580]

Saying he was "switched off" before the season began is less absurd than saying he "switched off" during Round 2, but it's still incorrect. You are blatantly rewriting history and it makes you look petty.

In round 4 he had 24 possessions, 6 inside 50s and kicked 2 goals. In a role that was foreign to him. And you're saying he was "switched off" by that stage?

He tailed off at the end of the year like most of our players, partly because he is not a leader's backside, but that doesn't overwrite his other contributions on the field throughout the year.

Just calling it as i saw it Man..Chips body language was elsewhere all year, and that is a fact if you know how to read it.

I am not petty at all. He either signed on or didn't

[P-man 13,224]

Just calling it as i saw it Man..Chips body language was elsewhere all year, and that is a fact if you know how to read it.

I am not petty at all. He either signed on or didn't

Please don't paint yourself as a body language expert.

It makes you appear petty by claiming he was mentally checked out all year. Many of his performances lie in total contrast to that claim. It is flat out wrong, and I say that as someone who has criticised his laziness at times on the field.

Even when he returned to the defence, you could see his annoyance when he was beaten by his man. Chip's competitiveness and desire to win is one of the main reasons he's no longer at the club.

[jumbo returns 6,493]

Please don't paint yourself as a body language expert.

It makes you appear petty by claiming he was mentally checked out all year. Many of his performances lie in total contrast to that claim. It is flat out wrong, and I say that as someone who has criticised his laziness at times on the field.

Even when he returned to the defence, you could see his annoyance when he was beaten by his man. Chip's competitiveness and desire to win is one of the main reasons he's no longer at the club.

Whaaaaattttt????

[P-man 13,224]

Whaaaaattttt????

Really not that difficult a concept.

[jumbo returns 6,493]

Really not that difficult a concept.

You're kidding, right?

[Sir Why You Little 34,580]

Please don't paint yourself as a body language expert.

It makes you appear petty by claiming he was mentally checked out all year. Many of his performances lie in total contrast to that claim. It is flat out wrong, and I say that as someone who has criticised his laziness at times on the field.

Even when he returned to the defence, you could see his annoyance when he was beaten by his man. Chip's competitiveness and desire to win is one of the main reasons he's no longer at the club.

nope. It's more a big fat long contract that Chip was able to command at the club of his choice.

If you want to believe differently that is your choice Man.

[P-man 13,224]

You're kidding, right?

Mate, go play your one up games with someone who can be bothered,

[P-man 13,224]

nope. It's more a big fat long contract that Chip was able to command at the club of his choice.

If you want to believe differently that is your choice Man.

Big fat long contract? He couldn't have gotten that money at the MFC? Please.

He left to win more games. Now. End of story.

Hell his first interview with them he was talking winning a flag in his first couple of seasons, Brian Lake style.

I'm far from Frawley's biggest fan but going out of your way to create a villain out of him is silly, in my opinion.

[jumbo returns 6,493]

Mate, go play your one up games with someone who can be bothered,

It's fine - your dumb comments and dumb posts are okay with me.

Hang in there........mate.

[Sir Why You Little 34,580]

Big fat long contract? He couldn't have gotten that money at the MFC? Please.

He left to win more games. Now. End of story.

Hell his first interview with them he was talking winning a flag in his first couple of seasons, Brian Lake style.

I'm far from Frawley's biggest fan but going out of your way to create a villain out of him is silly, in my opinion.

i don't consider Frawley a villain. He just used an available system.

But he checked out last summer.

That is my opinion.

[BigMacjnr 278]

That's wrong. Word is that Chip actually wanted to sign back on in the end but that MFC were told behind close doors that they would get pick 3 for him if he were to leave and so forced him out.

[Sir Why You Little 34,580]

That's wrong. Word is that Chip actually wanted to sign back on in the end but that MFC were told behind close doors that they would get pick 3 for him if he were to leave and so forced him out.

Yes i was told that too, Chip's attitude throughout the year bought him unstuck..

He wanted his cake and.....

[P-man 13,224]

i don't consider Frawley a villain. He just used an available system.

But he checked out last summer.

That is my opinion.

Which you're entitled to. The evidence doesn't really support that opinion.

[Sir Why You Little 34,580]

Which you're entitled to. The evidence doesn't really support that opinion.

depends where you look and how hard you watch carefully. It's there against WC in Round two.

Many of us spoke about it at the time on this site.

[P-man 13,224]

depends where you look and how hard you watch carefully. It's there against WC in Round two.

Many of us spoke about it at the time on this site.

Again, you can stop attributing it to you just looking harder or being more of a body language expert.

I remember the West Coast game. There were far worse performers out there than Frawley. But overlooking that, is the accusation that he checked out before the season started, or from round 2 onwards? It seems to flip flop.

Frawley has been prone to incidents of laziness on the field for the past 2 seasons. At least. That isn't something new. Saying he had checked out entirely from the beginning is a bit different.

To what would you attribute his inarguably strong performances against Carlton and Gold Coast merely two weeks later? Playing in a totally new position, it should be noted.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,427]

Fight fight fight..!!

[Sir Why You Little 34,580]

To what would you attribute his inarguably strong performances against Carlton and Gold Coast merely two weeks later? Playing in a totally new position, it should be noted.

Freedom or a lifting of responsibility would be my first thoughts.