Potential Trades [Warning: Reading this thread may self-destruct]

[DeeMfc 621]

how about this

out: 3, 23

in: Greene, frost & 6

That would be a massive win for us! But still not too unreasonable....

[beelzebub 23,198]

how about this

out: 3, 23

in: Greene, frost & 6

..................... sign

[Demoneyes 562]

are we there yet ??

Depends on where you are going!

[SaberFang 7,151]

Depends on where you are going!

At least one place up the ladder would be nice.

[True Heart 115]

I'm normally a very optimistic Melbourne supporter.. But unfortunately I just can't see any big improvements next year on the back of this trade period so far.. Looking at this years ladder.. GWS finished with 2 more wins above us.. they have added Griffen, Patfull and have a handful of picks in the top 10 to go with their current list of guns. Then above them? Brisbane.. who arguably now has one of the top 3 midfields in the comp. The gap between them and us IMO will grow and we will be lucky to hold off Saints for 17th spot end of next year.

The thing that worries me most, is keeping current players in the red and blue & making it an attractive destination for free agents.. We need to start winning and climbing up the ladder.. I just can't see it happening.

This isn't having your glass half full at all, this is having your glass half full of honest truth and realism.

[Adam The God 29,358]

Melbourne should have thrown some money at shiel he will be a jet. Rate him better then all the draft kids

We probably did.

[SaberFang 7,151]

1 hour to go. Any player trades that weren't already in the works yesterday are well and truly off the table now.

All that would be left is pick movements, such as 6 & 7 from GWS for pick 1 from the Saints.

Edited October 16, 2014 by Lamashtu

[Demoneyes 562]

At least one place up the ladder would be nice.

Yes, don't think too grand. Less disappointment that way!

[Adam The God 29,358]

1 hour to go. Any player trades that weren't already in the works yesterday are well and truly off the table now.

All that would be left is pick movements, such as 6 & 7 from GWS for pick 1 from the Saints.

It's not over until the fat lady sings.

[Jaded No More 67,641]

Well I'm off to a meeting that may take an hour.

I hope that when I return we'd have landed Dangerfield, Kennedy & Frost for pick 2 & Sam Blease.

[Demoneyes 562]

It's not over until the fat lady sings.

Her tonsils are warming up!

[Demoneyes 562]

Well I'm off to a meeting that may take an hour.

I hope that when I return we'd have landed Dangerfield, Kennedy & Frost for pick 2 & Sam Blease.

Are you sure you haven't been asleep and dreaming for an hour?

[Beats 190]

Surely we cant enter the 2015 season with approx. $1 million spare in the cap.

Roos says we must see improvement and not go through another re-build.

Find a trade, make it happen!

Front loading of contracts, particularly Jones if he re-signs. Payouts of delisted players is another option. If we cut mckenzie/ evans their wage will be included under next years salary cap (assuming clarks payout fell under this years cap as reported in the papers).

I'm expecting him to find it difficult to hold down a roll in the team, especially with the inclusion of HL on the HBF, and the addition of JG in the forward line (I realise Howe isn't a small forward like JG, but JG's inclusion will push someone out).

As you said, he's not the player that will lead the team, so what will his role be? Take a screamer? We will need more than that from him (and all our players) if we are to rise up the ladder.

Personally, I thought he struggled on the HBF this year, which is concerning for the position known as the "easiest to play". He didn't know when to mark or spoil, he doubted himself at contests, which against a decent HFF, will bring you unstuck and will make you a target.

Would have him ahead of Grimes on a HBF, is just as effective at intercepts and provides way more rebound. If he's playing in the backline we choose who matches up on him, if there's concern over his defensive abilities we put him on the least likely to be damaging. JG won't affect Howe in the forwardline, he will keep either one or both of Kent or JKH out of the side. If he's played as a swingman I'd have him in the team ahead of Watts. TBH I'd almost put him ahead of Dawes at CHF, he plays the role better than Dawes does.

What will his role be? Be a role player. Either providing rebounds (was 2nd at mfc behind Dunn in 2014) or I50's.

But unfortunately I just can't see any big improvements next year on the back of this trade period so far.. Looking at this years ladder.. GWS finished with 2 more wins above us.. they have added Griffen, Patfull and have a handful of picks in the top 10 to go with their current list of guns. Then above them? Brisbane.. who arguably now has one of the top 3 midfields in the comp. The gap between them and us IMO will grow and we will be lucky to hold off Saints for 17th spot end of next year.

I'm not confident we will rise up the ladder too far/ get a bunch more wins, but can see us passing at least 2 of the WB, Coll, Ess and Carlton and we will stay above St Kilda. As you say, off the back of trade week GWS and Bris will almost be in the 8.

Hogan, Lumumba and Garlett fill 3 massive holes in our 2014 side. We will have more run and more targets to kick to in the fwd50 (Pedersen/ Howe/ Hogan/ Dawes to play forward) and a player to crumb the dropped marks. We will have the players to play a more attacking game style. Toumpas may surprise some people and be a regular 22 player.

[SaberFang 7,151]

Yes, don't think too grand. Less disappointment that way!

Thinking grand would be finishing outside the bottom 5 for the first time in 9 years.

Edited October 16, 2014 by Lamashtu

[demon-4-life 467]

Well I'm off to a meeting that may take an hour.

I hope that when I return we'd have landed Dangerfield, Kennedy & Frost for pick 2 & Sam Blease.

Whoa...pick 2? Thats overs.

Surely Sam Blease is enough for all of them.

[Seinfeld 40]

Unless something drastic happens within 90 minutes, we are set for another bottom 3 finish.

Disappointing trade week.

I'm positive that we will be fighting for eight spot. Heretia Lumumba and Jeff Garlett are excellent pick-ups and add to our team and i have faith that with a another pre-season under Roos the team will be much fitter, drilled and focused. And don't forget we have a top draft pick who is ready to go and will have a instant and bigger impact than Boyd and all this years draftees.....our own Jess Hogan.

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

AFL website reporting that GWS and Dees are still in discussion for Frost

Maybe a sneak late trade?

[Demoneyes 562]

Thinking grand would be finishing outside the bottom 5 for the first time in 9 years.

Has it been that long? I have been in a daze these last several years thinking I'd wake and it was all a bad dream... so Daniher isn't coach any more?

[nutbean 8,838]

The fact that decent midfielders are moving all over the place when we've brought in none, would indicate our shopping list was very narrow.

or it could mean that we asked after 150 midfielders and they all said no.

Now prove me wrong.

You are guessing because you want to see movement.

[Felix 92]

Maybe there is a pick 2 being traded....

[Demoneyes 562]

Just reported that Frost to PSD most likely!

[Beats 190]

AFL website reporting that GWS and Dees are still in discussion for Frost

Maybe a sneak late trade?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-16/live-trade-period-deadline-day

1. 12.43pm: @AFL_petryan reports that slow progress is being made in negotiations between GWS and Melbourne in relation to Sam Frost. He can go through pre-season draft if deal not done. Frost, in his third season at the Giants, played 16 games this season to take his tally to 21. Melbourne won’t be parting with pick No.23 in exchange for him but it might be prepared to slide that pick to get deal done. The Demons have pick 2,3 and 23 and then pick 83 so hard deal to get done.

[Demoneyes 562]

Reported on SEN that Saints could still take McCartin at pick 1

[Harry Plopper 105]

Luke Lowden anyone? Still hasn't found a home with 48 minutes left on the board. If we trade down for Sam frost could potentially use a late pick on him?

[Demoneyes 562]

listen to SEN now. Brett Anderson asked about Watts, Toumpas,Tapscott etc