I don't mind it

Three unproven for one unproven and a superstar

Win win if danger wants to leave anyway

I personally do not think Danger will leave the Crows. Especially after the comments he made about Tippett and passing up big money at the Cats & Bombers.

What would you offer to Adelaide?

Conversely, what would you accept if the situation were reversed? Say it was Nathan Jones on the table (and look past "nup, not on the table" for the sake of interesting hypotheticals).

During the Bailey years I knew someone who worked at a club and participated in trade week. He said that all the clubs had a different approach to trading: some like Essendon would do its best to offer ridiculous trades to try and screw you and ultimately do very few trades because other clubs would stop wasting their time. Other clubs like Sydney under Roos would work out what they wanted and offer up a fair price straight away and the deals would get done quickly with no fuss. They had a model of being easy to do business with, and had a lot of success at the trade table a result.

I want us to focus less on being tight and focus on getting the job done. Don't try and get Dangerfield cheaply, acknowledge that he is an asset and will be expensive, offer accordingly and get the job done.

Don't forget that in this trade it is Adelaide taking all the risk, given they are loading up on draft picks. We of all clubs should be aware of how horribly that can go wrong.

Pick 2, 3, 4 (Toumpas), and receiving Dangerfield and pick 9, is overs for me.

We are giving up for example; Petracca, Tyson and Salem, and Toumpas (jury still out) for Dangerfield and whatever pick 9 gets us.

That's 4 potential elites (jury still out on some but for discussion sake), for 1 confirmed (Danger) and 1 possible (pick 9).

I'd be happy for pick 2 or 3 and perhaps 2 other players, but i feel we need to not just jump the gun here and throw all our eggs in one basket. We need a lot more midfield help then just 1 elite player. Look at Sydney, they have midfielders coming out of their bottoms! So to give up the possibilities of getting that with our high draft picks--2, 3, 4 (Toumpas) for 1 man seems ludicrous.

Edited September 15, 201411 yr by The Song Formerly Known As

On that note, how are we going with Jones re-signing, and at what stage do we start worrying about losing him to FA?

It's totally out of character for D'land to worry about that!

We ignore it until the last minute. Then we panic.

I'm worrying about it now.

Really? I guess I forgot how easy it's been for us to attract big name talent. Like it or not, players have to agree to a trade. If Dangerfield didn't want to play for Melbourne, it wouldn't matter if we offered Adelaide all our draft picks and our best five players.

They don't care about winning, just money. unless of course you believe in santa

They don't care about winning, just money. unless of course you believe in santa

That's not what we are seeing in free agency. Sure, some like Franklin have chased the coin, but we are seeing plenty of players leave chasing success over money.

And why wouldn't I believe in Santa?

Why the hell would Danger want to come to us? he'd get good money wherever he goes/if he stays

What's 100-200k if you're already earning 800k? Most players have left in FA to chase success. Only the outrageous, ridiculous contracts of the Scully and Franklin variety have bucked the trent.

Unless Melbourne can offer him 350k+, it might be hard to persuade him to agree to a trade imo.

There is a lot of truth in this rumour. I can confirm we are chasing Danger and have been for sometime. I can confirm long term discussions with his manager. However like most on here I agree its going to be a difficult sell to get Danger to the Dees. We are in the running, we can offer Adelaide the best deal, we can probably offer Danger the most money, but we are still a long shot. Much better than 1% as suggested by another poster, but still far from a level of getting excited.

Roos needs to weave his magic. If he lands with the Dees we can thank Roosy.

There is a lot of truth in this rumour. I can confirm we are chasing Danger and have been for sometime. I can confirm long term discussions with his manager. However like most on here I agree its going to be a difficult sell to get Danger to the Dees. We are in the running, we can offer Adelaide the best deal, we can probably offer Danger the most money, but we are still a long shot. Much better than 1% as suggested by another poster, but still far from a level of getting excited.

Roos needs to weave his magic. If he lands with the Dees we can thank Roosy.

Thanks GNF, always enlightening.

Would be fantastic to get him to the Dees. But I must admit as much as I hate Adelaide I would feel for them given they have lost a lot of talent from poaching in recent years...

Adelaide might entertain as well. Are they still out of the first round of the draft this year?

They might think if he doesn't go this year he will next as a free agent and if they have a good year might result in a pick in the teens. Trade this year get a top 3 pick and a sweetener.

Pick 2 and 3 plus Toumpas Is way over for dangerfield.

Give them pick 2 and toumpas for danger and pick 9. Lets remember Danger is 25 and most player finish up when they are 30. So we will probably get 5 years out of him we possibly get 10 years from say a pick 3 (Brayshaw).

There is a lot of truth in this rumour. I can confirm we are chasing Danger and have been for sometime. I can confirm long term discussions with his manager. However like most on here I agree its going to be a difficult sell to get Danger to the Dees. We are in the running, we can offer Adelaide the best deal, we can probably offer Danger the most money, but we are still a long shot. Much better than 1% as suggested by another poster, but still far from a level of getting excited.

Roos needs to weave his magic. If he lands with the Dees we can thank Roosy.

Something that just occurred to me about this is that arguably Adelaide was our best game for the year.

For someone like Dangermouse to consider us as a viable proposition, we need them to think that we're worth the risk, that there are better times to come. It might be easier to get him thinking this way, having seen us at our best, than someone like Shiel, for example, who's only seen us when we've been horrible.

I think #2 and Toumpas would be a fair trade.

Pick 2 and 3 plus Toumpas Is way over for dangerfield.

Give them pick 2 and toumpas for danger and pick 9. Lets remember Danger is 25 and most player finish up when they are 30. So we will probably get 5 years out of him we possibly get 10 years from say a pick 3 (Brayshaw).

Also he's an old 25 in football terms 'dazzle', been knocked around a bit.

Danger would improve us by at least 3-4 goals a game.

I would still want to see how Toumpas develops with a full pre-season and anther year under Roos.

Hyperthetical based on no rumours or anything,

MFC trade pick 3 to GCS for picks 7, 15

MFC trade pick 2, 7 and Toumpas to Adelaide

Adelaide trade Patrick Dangerfield and pick 9 to MFC

Melbourne gain Dangerfield, and go to the draft with picks 9 and 15 ( Laverde and Duggan)

Adelaide gain Pick 2, 7 and Jimmy Toumpas

all of this is relying on Adelaide feeling they will lose Dangerfield next year anyway, massive deal from us they couldn't possibly match and Dangerfield telling them he is going to take it either this year or next.

I'm not surprised we're into Dangerfield - we would have the least amount of pressure on our salary cap of any club in the comp. Have to say that I'd rather we get Shiel, simply because he's another 4-5 years younger. We should aim to keep one of our top 3 picks; very happy to trade one away but not both.

Number of rumours around that Adelaide are chasing Cameron hard. Might they use picks gained in trade for Dangerfield to try and prise Cameron from GWS?

Number of rumours around that Adelaide are chasing Cameron hard. Might they use picks gained in trade for Dangerfield to try and prise Cameron from GWS?

The rumours are based on other rumours that Tex Walker is seriously considering a move to us, really seems like something might be brewing

The rumours are based on other rumours that Tex Walker is seriously considering a move to us, really seems like something might be brewing

So many dominoes...

Don't want Dangerfield at all. Damaged goods. Been hit around the head too many times. Too old, best is behind him.

Bwahahahaha!!!

Danger would improve us by at least 3-4 goals a game.

I would still want to see how Toumpas develops with a full pre-season and anther year under Roos.

toumpas dud spud