On 16/09/2014 at 09:46, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Sauce Dazzler?

That sounds positive if true.

Source maybe B. Vince?

  On 16/09/2014 at 10:27, Moonshadow said:

I preferred the story that you were under the family couch at the time Dazzle. Would have loved to see his father's reaction when he heard an unaccounted for "YESSSSS!!!" coming from under the furniture upon hearing Roos speak.

Thats hilarious!

we have salary cap space for a big play at someone from Adelaide - but will it be Dangerfield?

  On 17/09/2014 at 11:54, Norm Smith said:

we have salary cap space for a big play at someone from Adelaide - but will it be Dangerfield?

Would be equally happy with Tex.

Sloane would also be nice (if we can turn his family around from being Prendergasted)

  On 10/09/2014 at 03:59, rjay said:

Because it doesn't work that way, he only has his service record at Adelaide. If he moves to another club he goes back to year one.

...but I do think you are right, the thread is pure fantasy.

Cash cash cash cash cash cashhhhhh

  On 17/09/2014 at 00:34, Gorgoroth said:

All the trade stuff would be pretty much worked out prior, if not they make a phone call. No biggie.

Yep, just ask Freo. Worked well for them with Clark.

Pick 3 & Toumpas would be very tempting for the Crows.

Toumpas will be a pretty good player when he gets over his niggles & Brayshaw has the potential also.

Danger is pretty awesome, but would he want to come to Melbourne?

Danger has knocked back big money from Essendon & Geelong in the past.

  On 17/09/2014 at 08:44, sweet dee said:

I'm watching..

I'm not. He doesn't have any contacts.

"I don't need any more money. I'm not greedy, as long as I've got my health, my millions of dollars, my gold house, and my rocket car; I don't need anything else." - P.Dangerfield

Is there any evidence AT ALL that Dangerfield wants out?? His name gets mentioned every trade period and all you hear from him is how much he loves the Crows and how he is encouraging others to sign on etc...

With Sanderson gone, presumably Dangerfield stays - surely that was the point of the exercise from the Crows' POV?

Well if part of the allure we had of nabbing him involved signing up Goodwin, Adelaide have basically nullified our plan with a master stroke that should see Danger stay at the Crows.

Pricks.

I know it's a cut throat business, but is there ANY club this year that isn't trying to completely [censored] us over in new and exciting ways? Colonwood and Druggies with Clark, Adelaide with succession plan, Freo and Geelong with Frawley (arguably the former will help by increasing his contract though), GWS with their condescending comments on the priority pick, etc.

  On 17/09/2014 at 12:27, It said:

Yep, just ask Freo. Worked well for them with Clark.

Yep and if Freo had of offered a decent pick like we did it would have been done day one.

So the theory is that Ricciuto was instrumental in Sanderson getting the chop and his best friend Goodwin was over in Adelaide talking to the club.

Ricciuto owns a pub in Adelaide with Walker, Dangerfield and Sloane and several players including Walker were critical of the coach in their exit interviews.

What does this tell you; well I'd say that Goodwin will be coach and we haven't got a chance with any of the players.

Back to the drawing board.

  On 13/09/2014 at 08:14, Lamashtu said:

Jokes on Adelaide then when he leaves next year and all they get is pick 10.

Clubs need to wake up to free agency. Why settle for one compensation pick when other clubs will pay overs in a trade? Thankfully Roos has his head around the concept. I'm sure if he could do his time over he would've traded Frawley last year

So why didnt he trade him? Dont tell me he believed his BS about waiting to see how the team went. In FA times you have to strike early and hard or you will be [censored] around by selfish players and managers

It could work out OK if the Dangerfield thing falls through. Pick 2 & 3 in the draft could snare Petracca and Brayshaw or allow us to target Cameron. Plenty of other fish in the sea.

As for Goodwin - Meh.

  On 17/09/2014 at 21:16, jackaub said:

So why didnt he trade him? Dont tell me he believed his BS about waiting to see how the team went. In FA times you have to strike early and hard or you will be [censored] around by selfish players and managers

Easier said than done though. Do we trade Nate Jones this year if he doesn't extend his contract?

  On 17/09/2014 at 20:41, Dee Fan said:

So the theory is that Ricciuto was instrumental in Sanderson getting the chop and his best friend Goodwin was over in Adelaide talking to the club.

Ricciuto owns a pub in Adelaide with Walker, Dangerfield and Sloane and several players including Walker were critical of the coach in their exit interviews.

What does this tell you; well I'd say that Goodwin will be coach and we haven't got a chance with any of the players.

Back to the drawing board.

Regrettably, I suspect you're on the money here.

  On 17/09/2014 at 14:08, Red Demon said:

Is there any evidence AT ALL that Dangerfield wants out?? His name gets mentioned every trade period and all you hear from him is how much he loves the Crows and how he is encouraging others to sign on etc...

I have always wondered if other Clubs Fan Forums have a Patrick Dangerfield thread in their trades section also

  On 17/09/2014 at 12:44, Wiseblood said:

I'm not. He doesn't have any contacts.

Source is my uncle, works in the SANFL, has done for the last 12 years, knows a lot of the crows boys. I have mentioned info from him previously on here.

He said Dangerfield had a meeting with the club about extending his contract and to see if he was open to begin talks, he said he wanted a clear blueprint of how the club planned on winning a premiership before he would consider re-commit, the club is aware of offers to Dangerfield from Victorian clubs already being on the table, he said that some of the trade deals he has heard are quite good when compared to the potential free agency compensation that might be on offer next year, Sanderson wasn't 100% against the idea.

Basically suggesting they have panicked and believed they needed a change to try and convince Danger to stay.

Just so you know I have at least one contact who can find things out

So will Dangerfield stay in Adelaide now that Sanderson is gone?

  On 17/09/2014 at 12:42, Jaap Stam said:

Pick 3 & Toumpas would be very tempting for the Crows.

Toumpas will be a pretty good player when he gets over his niggles & Brayshaw has the potential also.

Danger is pretty awesome, but would he want to come to Melbourne?

Danger has knocked back big money from Essendon & Geelong in the past.

Has he now? Can't remember him being a FA in the past.

I know the cats are working towards getting him next year.

Danger & his manager don't knock back meetings with other clubs, including Melbourne.

I'd say it hasn't been him rejecting big money, but rather that a deal hasn't come along that satisfied all parties, but most would be open to it.

The best result would be to keep our early picks, bank some salary cap room and then land Dangerfield as a Free Agent in 2016. He is a Restricted Free Agent, so it will be difficult for the top Victorian sides to outbid Adelaide.

[censored] Danger.

I wish the AFL had the trust that we could this time around build a dynasty on our own. Trust that we have the right recruiters, development coaches and players to provide the perfect environment for young players to thrive. Of course I completely get that we've had ample opportunity in previous drafts/years and we've got it so horribly wrong. But I don't care to wait now. I don't want to offer the world for a bonafide star of the comp who was brought to life by another club.

I want us to do it ourselves for once.

I want us to be ruthless in our objective to draft the best two mids of this year in Petracca and Brayshaw, (insert any other player out recruiters believe have star qualities) And inject maybe a ROK, Malceski and Lumumba to add to Cross, Vince and Dawes who were not stars of the comp but who tick the box as teachers and players who will actually nurture and mentor young players unlike Sylvia, Moloney and Frawley in recent times.

I understand there's an argument that the MFC can't be afforded anymore time to 'rebuild' and need immediate improvement. But there is risk in everything. Every trade. Look at what has happened to Clarke.

It's only my view. But I see us as being extremely lucky to have another opportunity and crack at potentially nabbing two of the best mids in this draft and developing them RIGHT. I don't want to hear one post bring up our past failings because the variables involved are now completely different.

It's time to unearth our own stars of the competition.

Petracca

Brayshaw

Viney

Tyson

Salem

Hogan

Under the tutelage of potentially:

Cross

Jones

ROK

Malceski

Vince

Dawes

Lumumba

Vs

Scully

Trengove

Morton

Gysberts

Blease

Strauss

(Who were drafted by a completely different recruiting group headed by possibly the worst recruiter of all time)

Under the tutelage of:

Green

Moloney

Sylvia

Frawley

Jones

Etc

We have been given a golden second opportunity to have a shot at getting it right.

My thoughts anyway..

  On 17/09/2014 at 23:11, Machsy said:

Has he now? Can't remember him being a FA in the past.

I know the cats are working towards getting him next year.

Danger & his manager don't knock back meetings with other clubs, including Melbourne.

I'd say it hasn't been him rejecting big money, but rather that a deal hasn't come along that satisfied all parties, but most would be open to it.

Who mentioned anything about free agency? It was mentioned in a article a few years back after he made those comments about Tippett leaving the crows.