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Trengove..calling it now

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  On 28/05/2014 at 09:57, DemonAndrew said:

he's a real 'wait and see' for mine.

like hogan, until he can come and play football again following the injury, i just presume he's done and dusted.

its a bit that way really isnt it

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    I think Trengove's pace is an issue, however it can be combatted.

    If Trengove can just gut run and make every contest, he will make up for it.

    I believe he can become a superstar, but just needs confidence and to stay injury free. He has more upside than most midfielders

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    alas,....effort and results dont always go the way of desire

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    Finished,!! onwards and upwards!!

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      On 28/05/2014 at 11:16, picket fence said:

    Finished,!! onwards and upwards!!

    fence is being provocative !!!!!!!!!

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      On 28/05/2014 at 11:35, Curry & Beer said:

    fence is being provocative !!!!!!!!!

    at least it's not about Toumpas for once.

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      On 28/05/2014 at 11:35, Curry & Beer said:

    fence is being provocative !!!!!!!!!

    He just wants a spot freed up on the list so Juice can return.

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    If Trenners can't come back and have a big year next year I think his place on the list will begin to be questioned. Once Blease Tapscott Strauss Nicho are gone at the end of this year, Trenners will be moving closer to the chopping block if he can't come back and make an impact.

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      On 28/05/2014 at 11:16, picket fence said:

    Finished,!! onwards and upwards!!

    You are a muppett PF. You are nothing but a troll who enjoys drinking in your own bath of negatively and constant criticism on basically any young player on our list.

    Go back to supporting Carlton.

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    You are only as good as your last game, Trengove is of Casey standard, maybe not even.

    I think he has a lot of work to do, A LOT.

    From what I've seen of Jack Trengove the past 2 years, it will be hard for him to break back into the senior side.

    The problem? He lacks aggression, a will to get the ball at any cost. MFC is no longer a side where you just go through the motions.

    I haven't been impressed by Trengove the past few years, he has much work to do.

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      On 28/05/2014 at 12:46, KingDingAling said:

    You are only as good as your last game, Trengove is of Casey standard, maybe not even.

    I think he has a lot of work to do, A LOT.

    From what I've seen of Jack Trengove the past 2 years, it will be hard for him to break back into the senior side.

    The problem? He lacks aggression, a will to get the ball at any cost. MFC is no longer a side where you just go through the motions.

    I haven't been impressed by Trengove the past few years, he has much work to do.

    A few things though

    1. He was captain way too soon impacting his form

    2. He missed a fair bit of footy with injury

    3. He was in a rubbish side with a rubbish coach

    4. He may have been carrying this injury for a long time

    Trengove doesn't shirk contests. He runs hard to get the ball. But you are right he hasn't got that Nathan Jones or Jack Viney level of aggression but neither does Vince or Tyson.

    Whilst he can be part of a rotation or do a job as an inside midfield I believe his best footy is as a Steele Sidebottom outside mid/half forward who runs all day and accumulates quality possessions. However he needs to at least have average speed not to be slow to make it in that role. It all depends on how well he recovers but there's so much time I don't know why people are rushing to judgement.

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      On 28/05/2014 at 12:52, Georgiou R.R. Martin said:

    A few things though

    1. He was captain way too soon impacting his form

    2. He missed a fair bit of footy with injury

    3. He was in a rubbish side with a rubbish coach

    4. He may have been carrying this injury for a long time

    Trengove doesn't shirk contests. He runs hard to get the ball. But you are right he hasn't got that Nathan Jones or Jack Viney level of aggression but neither does Vince or Tyson.

    Whilst he can be part of a rotation or do a job as an inside midfield I believe his best footy is as a Steele Sidebottom outside mid/half forward who runs all day and accumulates quality possessions. However he needs to at least have average speed not to be slow to make it in that role. It all depends on how well he recovers but there's so much time I don't know why people are rushing to judgement.

    Disagree, I think he's an inside mid and we have been trying to play him as an outside mid/half forward where his pace gets exposed more so, I want to see him at the bounces.

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      On 28/05/2014 at 13:00, Sassy said:

    Disagree, I think he's an inside mid and we have been trying to play him as an outside mid/half forward where his pace gets exposed more so, I want to see him at the bounces.

    I can see why we've tried to play him in both.

    The fact is, Trengove doesn't have the pace to play as an outside midfielder - but he does his the class and finish. However, because he doesn't have the breakaway pace, he isn't effective at all.. So we try play him as an inside midfielder, but the problem with that - is that Trengove doesn't have the aggression or toughness to play as an inside midfielder.

    Trengove needs to play with more intent if he is to make it as a midfielder.

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      On 28/05/2014 at 13:34, KingDingAling said:

    I can see why we've tried to play him in both.

    The fact is, Trengove doesn't have the pace to play as an outside midfielder - but he does his the class and finish. However, because he doesn't have the breakaway pace, he isn't effective at all.. So we try play him as an inside midfielder, but the problem with that - is that Trengove doesn't have the aggression or toughness to play as an inside midfielder.

    Trengove needs to play with more intent if he is to make it as a midfielder.

    He had a lot more zip in his first 2 years

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      On 28/05/2014 at 08:54, olisik said:

    I think we ll be lucky to see him on the park again. Didn't this type of injury end Trent Croads career?

    obviously glass have empty dude hey??

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      On 28/05/2014 at 13:49, Sassy said:

    He had a lot more zip in his first 2 years

    probably because he's been playing with dodgy foot for last two years

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      On 28/05/2014 at 11:16, picket fence said:

    Finished,!! onwards and upwards!!

    For a troll you're very boring...

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      On 28/05/2014 at 11:16, picket fence said:

    Finished,!! onwards and upwards!!

    Dead set, surely in the COC there's something about continually causing conflict. I don't mind posters who try and debate whether a player is done but this clown drops a bomb in every thread and runs.

    Our threads go so off-track, let's start making these posters aware this forum isn't a place to make a mockery of supporters who actually want to talk Melbourne footy.

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    I avoided this thread for a while due to its heading. "Trengove, calling it now". I just assumed it was another negative thread predicting Trengove's demise. Glad that it wasn't although the usual suspects (you know who you are) have shown that they didn't learn from their grandmothers. You know, the lesson in life that says "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

      On 28/05/2014 at 12:46, KingDingAling said:

    You are only as good as your last game, Trengove is of Casey standard, maybe not even.

    I think he has a lot of work to do, A LOT.

    From what I've seen of Jack Trengove the past 2 years, it will be hard for him to break back into the senior side.

    The problem? He lacks aggression, a will to get the ball at any cost. MFC is no longer a side where you just go through the motions.

    I haven't been impressed by Trengove the past few years, he has much work to do.

    Illogical arrant nonsense.

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      On 28/05/2014 at 12:14, dazzledavey36 said:

    You are a muppett PF. You are nothing but a troll who enjoys drinking in your own bath of negatively and constant criticism on basically any young player on our list.

    Go back to supporting Carlton.

    On the contrary, I call it like I see it.

    Bit harsh Troll?? I think not,

    I can for example, find nothing but invigoration and admiration for most players on the list.

    JONES, DAWES, GARLAND, TYSON, SALEM, KENT, DUNN, FRAWLEY, JKH, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON

    However some players in my opinion are either not up to it, and for a variety of reasons lost it! Eg

    a) Lack of work ethic

    b) Bad luck with injuries

    c) Ordinary and or highly speculative picks to start with etc etc. (And of course we have had plenty of those)!

    Jack Trengoves case he has not played good footy for two years, whether or not that is the fault of injury or the pace of the game has caught up with him. The fact of the matter is he has not developed and improved as we would have liked.

    IMO I believe his lack of pace is decisive and further I don't believe he will get this back ( was he ever quick to start with?)

    In this modern game if you are slow unless you are a ball winning freak that hurts opposition with your disposal you won't get a game.

    Q Can we afford to have a player like this in our side and if yes what position ( which currently is being taken by someone else) is he going to take???

    Pity but I'm calling it now, Rose coloured glasses are wonderful and look, would love he proves me wrong, but Not IMO and those who don't like my opinion

    Stiff!!

    Troll ?? Nar just calling it as I see it!

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      On 29/05/2014 at 03:06, picket fence said:

    On the contrary, I call it like I see it.

    Bit harsh Troll?? I think not,

    I can for example, find nothing but invigoration and admiration for most players on the list.

    JONES, DAWES, GARLAND, TYSON, SALEM, KENT, DUNN, FRAWLEY, JKH, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON

    However some players in my opinion are either not up to it, and for a variety of reasons lost it! Eg

    a) Lack of work ethic

    b) Bad luck with injuries

    c) Ordinary and or highly speculative picks to start with etc etc. (And of course we have had plenty of those)!

    Jack Trengoves case he has not played good footy for two years, whether or not that is the fault of injury or the pace of the game has caught up with him. The fact of the matter is he has not developed and improved as we would have liked.

    IMO I believe his lack of pace is decisive and further I don't believe he will get this back ( was he ever quick to start with?)

    In this modern game if you are slow unless you are a ball winning freak that hurts opposition with your disposal you won't get a game.

    Q Can we afford to have a player like this in our side and if yes what position ( which currently is being taken by someone else) is he going to take???

    Pity but I'm calling it now, Rose coloured glasses are wonderful and look, would love he proves me wrong, but Not IMO and those who don't like my opinion

    Stiff!!

    Troll ?? Nar just calling it as I see it!

    You are going to look abit silly if Trenners and the Toump come good.

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      On 29/05/2014 at 03:28, Sassy said:

    You are going to look abit silly if Trenners and the Toump come good.

    So be it!! Happy for our club if I am proved wrong and will wear it which is more than I can say for some on this site!

    Cheers Sass!

    Fence

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