Machsy 2,858 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Not sure about Pickett. Pretty small and thin. I don't think you use up a top 5 pick on his type. Saw him at Simonds Stadium last year almost get killed in a tackle by Matt Crouch. Heard it from 100m away. Pickett got up, but was very groggy and went off. Saw some promising play before that, but nothing indicating he'd be worth going this early. I'm happy to trade out of this draft. Quote
Dockett 32 1,239 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Didn't Roos indicate he wanted bigger bodied mids. The days of us recruiting midgets might be over. Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Not sure about Pickett. Pretty small and thin. I don't think you use up a top 5 pick on his type. Saw him at Simonds Stadium last year almost get killed in a tackle by Matt Crouch. Heard it from 100m away. Pickett got up, but was very groggy and went off. Saw some promising play before that, but nothing indicating he'd be worth going this early. I'm happy to trade out of this draft. I see it pretty much the same 'Machsy' unless he is exceptional, Rioli exceptional with a bigger tank and great hamstrings. Sitting on the fence about trading out at the moment, depends where we finish. Would have loved McCartin with Hogan but winning beats a number one draft pick so I will take that. Do we factor in the chances of Stretch later in the draft and Lovett in the following draft? Wouldn't mind adding some tall talent to the list. Quote
InVINCEable 358 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 In Roos we trust But what about Tyler Roos, the messiah's son? Playing for Sandrigham Dragons at the moment with Brayshaw, plays off half back and half forward. Don't know too much about him though. Quote
DeeSpencer 26,668 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 In Roos we trust But what about Tyler Roos, the messiah's son? Playing for Sandrigham Dragons at the moment with Brayshaw, plays off half back and half forward. Don't know too much about him though. Jack Viney is working out pretty well but I'd usually be against a coach picking his own son. How it differs here is that Roos will be out of the senior coaching job in 2 years and therefore wont be senior coach for his own son for too long. As long as Roos stays out of the recruiting process then I'd trust the recruiters. No nothing about the kid except he looks confident and I decent size when down at training helping out his old man. Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Tyler roos has good genes haha, I reckon we should pick him, all the more reason for roosy to hang around Quote
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Not sure about Pickett. Pretty small and thin. I don't think you use up a top 5 pick on his type. Saw him at Simonds Stadium last year almost get killed in a tackle by Matt Crouch. Heard it from 100m away. Pickett got up, but was very groggy and went off. Saw some promising play before that, but nothing indicating he'd be worth going this early. I'm happy to trade out of this draft. Remember the game. He went in low to get it, but his ankle was hurt in the collision and went off when he couldn't run it off. In his favour is that he was willing to cop some contact and he has shown the ability to win his own ball and compete. Want to see more myself before putting him up as high as top 5, there are some big raps on him out there. Didn't Roos indicate he wanted bigger bodied mids. The days of us recruiting midgets might be over. I would imagine an exception could be made for skilled speedsters ala Lewis Jetta. Quote
Machsy 2,858 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Remember the game. He went in low to get it, but his ankle was hurt in the collision and went off when he couldn't run it off. In his favour is that he was willing to cop some contact and he has shown the ability to win his own ball and compete. Want to see more myself before putting him up as high as top 5, there are some big raps on him out there. You're right, I forgot about that. He did limp off. Was a willing combatant, but I still didn't see any of the Cyril-Rioli-like magic that he'd need to get a top 5 guernsey. Was a bottom-aged however. I do recall at that stage having heard of Clem Smith and was looking out for him on the day, but I think I noticed Pickett more, as a small speedy indigenous type. Quote
thedirtydog24 18 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 On talent alone, Pickett is a top 3 pick. If Frawley leaves and we get a 1st round compo pick, a combination of Pickett and Goddard/Durdin in the 1st round, then a rebounding defender in the 2nd round followed by Stretch in round 3 would be the perfect draft. 1 Quote
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Some footage of Pickett here, as well as a little pump up of Maia Westrupp: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-02-15/eyecatchers-ais-afl-academy-new-zealand-tour Quote
Lil_red_fire_engine 11,383 Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 I find that list a bit beige on paper and if they're beige on paper I imagine they're not that great in reality. I would think a fair chance we shop our first round once again for a player with some maturity that fits needs. Quote
InVINCEable 358 Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Didn't Roos indicate he wanted bigger bodied mids. The days of us recruiting midgets might be over. JKH says howdy. 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,365 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Posted May 25, 2014 Mad Monday Show: U18′s WA v SA – Match Report South Australia 14.8. 92 defeated Western Australia 8.13. 61 Best Players SA Gore, Johansen, Burton, Wigg, Coulson WA Blakely, Keitel, Smith, Hardisty, Garlett Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Any update on Billy? Shifter Shehan mentioned on TAC Futuer Stars yesterday that Stretch impressed across half back in that game and that he expects him to get drafted. Quote
Axis of Bob 11,944 Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-05-28/eyecatchers-round-one Round 1 Eye Catchers. Includes a tiny bit of vision of Billy Stretch towards the end. Quote
dee-luded 2,959 Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Mad Monday Show: U18′s WA v SA – Match Report South Australia 14.8. 92 defeated Western Australia 8.13. 61 Best Players SA Gore, Johansen, Burton, Wigg, Coulson WA Blakely, Keitel, Smith, Hardisty, Garlett liked the look of picket. & weller Quote
torpedo 33 Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Careful, Goddard looks scarily similar to Watts... Funny that you should mention that, as for mine Watts's career has always looked scarily similar to that of Brendan Goddard and this is the comparison I always use when Watts haters slag him off. If you look back at Goddard's career you would probably say Watts is about on par with where Goddard was in his 6th season, he didn't really establish himself as a top shelf player until his 7th year. Quote
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,136 Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Tyler roos has good genes haha, I reckon we should pick him, all the more reason for roosy to hang around Actually, I think the reverse. If Tyler Roos was drafted to Melbourne I'd see Paul Roos leaving claiming a conflict of interest. When Denis Pagan was coach of North Melbourne he had difficulties with how he managed his son who was on the Kanga's list for a while. Put simply, whichever approach Pagan (senior) took, he couldn't win. 1 Quote
Machsy 2,858 Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 If Roos is good enough, he's a possible father-son to the lions anyway... But yes, massive conflict of interest I think Roos would prefer avoid. Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 If Roos is good enough, he's a possible father-son to the lions anyway... But yes, massive conflict of interest I think Roos would prefer avoid. do ex Fitzroy or bears players qualify with the father/son rule to the lions? well there ya go haha Quote
DeeSpencer 26,668 Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 do ex Fitzroy or bears players qualify with the father/son rule to the lions? well there ya go haha Jono Brown the most famous. Mark Murphy said thanks but no thanks. 1 Quote
dee-luded 2,959 Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Jono Brown the most famous. Mark Murphy said thanks but no thanks. sadly. the whiteants undercut yet another, in a long line of pilfering. Quote
Pennant St Dee 13,443 Posted May 31, 2014 Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) Attended the game today and from start to finish Vic Metro were clear and away the better side, really good inside with clean hands and always had a loose man outside who once with ball in hand broke away easily and the delivery inside 50 was very good. Vic Metro could have won by 100+ had they kicked straighter. I went today keen to see Angus Brayshaw through the middle and whilst he was good and really looks to have a good tank and work ethic but there were others who stood out namely Christian Patrecca found plenty of the ball and his tackling was ferocious and he looks a good size and would step into AFL without any issues in size, Touk Miller looked good and was constantly putting pressure on WA defenders who had no answer to his tackling and his ball use was good and he was very good in congestion. Cavka I know nothing about but along with Petracca was one of the standouts, he caught my eye with his workrate and his willingness to run hard after feeding off the ball to provide an option. Number 6 for Vic Metro Ahern was very good with his run through the middle and showed a strong ability to break the lines. WRIGHT is some size and a very good kick for a young guy that big, whilst he didn't star he showed enough to suggest he will go high in the draft. A few glimpses of being good below his knees which will rate highly as a KPT and his positional sense and awareness of when to go to a contest and when to hang out the back is something someone so young usually needs to be taught. WA were really bad mostly across the field and bombed the ball into their forward 50 on numerous occasions despite Vic Metro's 2 big defenders Langford and Vickers-Ellis dominating their defensive 50, these two boys were very impressive. Mark young Waterman down as a monty to go to Meth Coast, his decision making is excellent and he uses the ball extremely well and he just knows how to read the play and finds space easily. The knock on Waterman is his pace lets be honest he has none otherwise he would be top 5 but still going to be a very good player and I don't see why they wouldn't take him. Clem Smith was undisciplined and gave away two silly 50m but was hard at every contest and laid some good solid body hits, one of which left one of Vic Metro's boys a little shaken up for a few minutes. Smith's ball use is good and he will stand out at the next level with players who know where to run and lead. Jared Hardisty from Claremont was very busy throughout and showed some very clean hands and accumulated plenty of the footy. Not sure at around 5ft 9 that he will go in the first 3 rounds but worth a late pick or rookie as his workrate and ability to find the ball were impressive. Jarred Pickett showed about 2 minutes of highlights and bursts of pace but my god he doesn't work hard and does not put in the effort to get pressure/body or a tackle on an opponent or get to a contest that is not to far away from him. I would imagine he will talked of highly by many because you would be able to put together a nice highlight reel for him but for me really needs to work harder. So for me if I was picking on today Petracca - big bodied mid excellent disposal hard at the ball and makes tackles count Wright - the glimpses were enough and I can see the ability to just impose himself Braywhaw - very good 1st quarter went out for a bit in the middle but finished strongly and has a fantastic tank Cavka - worked hard didn't just admire some good work went again to get another kick or provide an option Waterman - just a quality footballer and if he had pace would be an absolute star Ahern - line breaking pace and shows a lot of ability to cause problems breaking from clearances Smith - is developing into a Byron Pickett clone and loves to hit hard Langford - controlled the defensive 50 and plenty of sides need tall defenders Miller - really good decision maker and applies some good pressure inside 50 Hardisty - accumulated plenty of the footy showed the required workrate their will be doubters on his size Edited May 31, 2014 by Pennant St Dee 3 Quote
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