Just saw a tweet made by former Demonologist (and perhaps very occasional Demonlander) Graham Gaunt:

"Paul Gardner just got on @2GB873 and mentioned that@melbournefc and another club north of Sydney are rumoured on the issue. #sourgrapes ?"

Anyone else hear this?

Carlton barred John Elliott from turning up at the club for quite some time. Can we do the same for this [censored]?

God I hate this stuff...........How far do we have to look back and ask weather the winners of the grand final were on drugs?????

Any winning teams are now under suspicion and it will just spoil the footy for me.....

After so many years of being crap,if we improve to much this year the suspicion will be on us...

What a world we live in.....What a world...

start with 2006.

Maybe the Brisbane 3peat.

28 pages and counting, I thought we would have learnt on this board, that nothing is a fact until it is proven

Why was nobody arrested yesterday, why was noboby named simple answer, there is no concrete proof, there are suspicions and probably uncorroborated statements, but not enough to pursue

The Police are now going to use all their resources to try and prove

ASADA are hoping that if they shake the tree hard enough something will fall out, similar to the Lance Armstrong situation

I will wring my hands and be disgusted if and when a present day Melbourne player or official is suspended, banned, arrested for using/administering performance enhancing drugs

The rest is what we have all become used to, the media creating the story

I can't wait for the footy to start and then we can talk about the footy

Damn Satyricon, I am amazed you are that naive. Your not related to Vlad by any chance?

Did anyone see Tom Harley/Jason Stevens/Mike Whitney on Sunrise this morning? I found it to be quite interesting, especially between the two ex-footballers.

Jason Stevens was absolutely stunned that this was happening in sport. It was clear that he was surprised, and that it was happening in the sport he played was really upsetting for him.

Harley on the other hand, I have serious issues with (apart from the fact I think he is a first class [censored], up there in the Barrett league). Firstly, he gave the interview absolutely no emotiion, no personal opinion, and anything that he spat out was pretty much a cut and paste from what he had read in the paper or heard on the news. This doesn't surpirse me, but that's my personal view on him. The thing that stood out the most for me was the fact that he didn't show anywhere near the shock that Jason Stevens showed, he didn't mention anything about his time at the Geelong Football Club, and the only thing in terms of his own opinion that he said was that it would be tragic if players were taking stuff that they didn't know the full extent of.

Now, I may have already slipped in to that rut of questioning-every-single-person-until-we-know-facts, but I found it quite amazing at just how uncomfortable he looked in front of a camera talking about it. Especially given that you can't shut him up when talking about himself or how good Geelong is.

Just curious to find out if anyone else saw it.

Did anyone see Tom Harley/Jason Stevens/Mike Whitney on Sunrise this morning? I found it to be quite interesting, especially between the two ex-footballers.

Jason Stevens was absolutely stunned that this was happening in sport. It was clear that he was surprised, and that it was happening in the sport he played was really upsetting for him.

Harley on the other hand, I have serious issues with (apart from the fact I think he is a first class [censored], up there in the Barrett league). Firstly, he gave the interview absolutely no emotiion, no personal opinion, and anything that he spat out was pretty much a cut and paste from what he had read in the paper or heard on the news. This doesn't surpirse me, but that's my personal view on him. The thing that stood out the most for me was the fact that he didn't show anywhere near the shock that Jason Stevens showed, he didn't mention anything about his time at the Geelong Football Club, and the only thing in terms of his own opinion that he said was that it would be tragic if players were taking stuff that they didn't know the full extent of.

Now, I may have already slipped in to that rut of questioning-every-single-person-until-we-know-facts, but I found it quite amazing at just how uncomfortable he looked in front of a camera talking about it. Especially given that you can't shut him up when talking about himself or how good Geelong is.

Just curious to find out if anyone else saw it.

Saw it, thought he was a cardboard cut out of a person. He said nothing of note, but neither did Whitney for that matter. Just a fluff piece to look like "experts/any actual journalism" had occurred.

Saw it, thought he was a cardboard cut out of a person. He said nothing of note, but neither did Whitney for that matter. Just a fluff piece to look like "experts/any actual journalism" had occurred.

You shouldn't have gone in with expectations of Whitney saying anything relevant anyway!

Harley on the other hand, it was quite noticable given what he is normally like.

You shouldn't have gone in with expectations of Whitney saying anything relevant anyway!

Harley on the other hand, it was quite noticable given what he is normally like.

Tom Harley is an Alien Life Form, always creeps me out when i see him...

Damn Satyricon, I am amazed you are that naive. Your not related to Vlad by any chance?

I am only browing part of the 20 odd pages, or looking for reply to my post, what I am saying is that at the moment it is all hearsay, will fill the papers and tv for a few days and then be replaced with something else that will appeal to the masses and drag out all the so called experts and pundits....noticed even Akermanis is getting a guernsey

I am not naive enough to think there are no drugs in sport, but until somebody is outed, what is the point stressing over it, it may have no impact whatsoever on MFC and basically don't give a toss about any other sport or team, end of my contribution to this 'topic'

BD They should go back to WCE of 92 and 94 - bulked up bigtime and had a few colourful racing identities around the place.

Tom Harley is an Alien Life Form, always creeps me out when i see him...

Tired? stressed?

Tired? stressed?

Just strange i think!!

Obviously not a true catholic,

Up the Gers!

I meant to PM you a couple of weeks ago after the FA Cup tie. Followed the Toffees since I was given a jersey when I was four. Always worry about playing your lot in the Cup since you rolled us in around 92/93

You shouldn't have gone in with expectations of Whitney saying anything relevant anyway!

Harley on the other hand, it was quite noticable given what he is normally like.

Oh I didn't, he looked like he was still on his last tour to the West Indies.....

I am only browing part of the 20 odd pages, or looking for reply to my post, what I am saying is that at the moment it is all hearsay, will fill the papers and tv for a few days and then be replaced with something else that will appeal to the masses and drag out all the so called experts and pundits....noticed even Akermanis is getting a guernsey

I am not naive enough to think there are no drugs in sport, but until somebody is outed, what is the point stressing over it, it may have no impact whatsoever on MFC and basically don't give a toss about any other sport or team, end of my contribution to this 'topic'

Satyricon, you sound like one of the posters on bomberblitz.

This is not hearsay. A 12 month investiagtion has established that PED's are a major issue in australian sport. yeas we might be speculating about who is involved but the issue must be real for the government to make a stand like they did yesterday

hows this one from bomberblitz, trolling at it's best!

Mate of a mate knows Joe Daniher and he told him he will be having a 2 year holiday without even playing a game from injections he was given last year

This will tickle your fancy wyl and others WCE CEO Trevor Nisbett said today

Nisbett, who described West Coast as "one of the major advocates" of clean sport,

I almost fell off my chair.

Does he really think we all have that short of memories

Really!

Bomberblitz thread just on Kero

note they have no moderation over there

Just strange i think!!

Bomberblitz thread just on Kero

note they have no moderation over there

haha absolute gold, especially from BaxterKeyzy

i'd post his comment, bust last time i did i got a warning from a mod!

And some people at Geelong are a bit worried.

Scandal shocks Geelong players

You shouldn't have gone in with expectations of Whitney saying anything relevant anyway!

Harley on the other hand, it was quite noticable given what he is normally like.

Well the weapon was at the Catters, before Suns & Bombers. But was dank?

God I hope we are not on drugs for one reason...

If this is our effort whilst doping we truly are stuffed : (

Dank was not at the cats.

Dank was not at the cats.

Not sure about that.

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2013/02/07/358819_gfc.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

the weapon .......... When he returned home to Australia, he took up a position at the then-Sydney City Roosters, NSW Institute of Sport, and then the Manly Sea Eagles, before joining the Cats in late 2006.

When he arrived at Geelong, he had begun studying for a PhD in physiology and pharmacology, focusing mainly on genetics and training.

His brother, Trent Robinson, is the new head coach of the NRL Roosters.

On the eve of Geelong's Grand Final win in 2007, a weekend in which the Sea Eagles were also playing in the NRL decider, Robinson spoke of his closeness with sports scientist Stephen Dank, who is also under investigation by ASADA and the AFL for his role at Essendon last year.

Robinson and Dank had worked together previously at Manly.

"It is satisfying to have had a hand in both (clubs' success) and Steve has also had a big input here, even though he is not on the payroll here, and never has been," Robinson said at the time.

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2013/02/07/358819_gfc.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

The 'Weapon' has known Dank well since the end of '06 . Hird worked with Charter for 12 months in '04. Charter and Dank have known each other and had dealings for a number of years. Thompson worked with the weapon for a number of years at Geelong.

They are all connected and it goes back quite a number of years.

The following article is from 'you know who' so make of it what you will ...

Players' boss comes out swinging at scientists

For those not familiar, Matt Finnis is the AFL players boss ...

It also said substances in some cases were administered to players without their knowledge.

Finnis's comments came as at least two former Bombers confirmed a club high-performance official administered the stomach injections with no club doctor present.

''The evidence in the report is that players have undergone clinical trials so underdeveloped that the substances have not even been placed on the international drug lists,'' Finnis said of the finding. ''That is the most disturbing thing I can say that I have ever read - ever.