Jump to content

Bombers scandal: charged, <redacted> and <infracted>

Jonesbag
Jonesbag
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

Yes,I may well be naive in how ASADA operates but I can't help but think that sweet flock all is going to happen to the Bummers. You could have built a pyramid in the time it's taken to investigate the saga. I'm just not buying the whole 'infraction notes are coming' business.

 

Surely if he is disgraced his media career would also be ended.

Not so sure. After a period in purgatory Wayne Carey seems to be in demand.
 

Rome....day...etc etc etc

Not so sure. After a period in purgatory Wayne Carey seems to be in demand.

Carey did noting compared to what Hird did


Carey did noting compared to what Hird did

snorted coke in green room and gave carro rubbish on footy classified

was arrested in las vegas[who hasnt been]

beat a woman

tore apart the kangas

but besides that nothing really

I love how they throw in the "likely easy-beat St Kilda" slap. Wonder what they would have said about us in there ;)

Jon Ralph. So unnecessary and so disrespectful. ( not too mention that the season hasnt started and who knows what will happen - StKilda could do a Port Adelaide).

Maybe from now on we should refer to him by his full title - Likely never had an original thought in his life Journo, Jon Ralph.

snorted coke in green room and gave carro rubbish on footy classified

was arrested in las vegas[who hasnt been]

beat a woman

tore apart the kangas

but besides that nothing really

allegedly shagged a team mates bird in the dunny at a party
 

He still didnt put the lives of 40 odd teenagers/young men at risk by overseeing a program where they were injected with unknown unsafe substances

If they were unknown how can you know they were unsafe?

If they were unknown how can you know they were unsafe?

Because some were unsafe (fact) and some were unknown and still are no doubt


Because some were unsafe (fact) and some were unknown and still are no doubt

But that is not what you said.

"they were injected with unknown unsafe substances"

No maybes there that I can see.

There is lots on suggestions as to what they were but I have seen nothing that proves that anyone knows for sure what they were given.

HH is spot on. OldDee you are nitpicking. I challenge you to be injected with an unknown substance. Unknown substances are precisely that - it could be the elixir of life or it could be anything.

HH is spot on. OldDee you are nitpicking. I challenge you to be injected with an unknown substance. Unknown substances are precisely that - it could be the elixir of life or it could be anything.

Or it could be harmless.

If you don't know you don't know

IMO it is that simple.

Now that is not to say that everything is ok and that it was not a terrible situation that came into play at Essendon.

I like most people think Hird should go because he allowed a situation to develop where he did not know what was happening.

But you cannot say they were definitely given harmful substances.

Very big chance they were but there is no definite proof that I have seen so far.

Unknown substances in some ways are worse than steroids or other known illegal substances and should be treated as such.


HH is spot on. OldDee you are nitpicking. I challenge you to be injected with an unknown substance. Unknown substances are precisely that - it could be the elixir of life or it could be anything.

I agree Sue. The very uncertainty of what was injected was disgraceful. And the players will live with uncertainty of it for the rest of their lives. What a sell out of young lives.

Or it could be harmless.

If you don't know you don't know

IMO it is that simple.

If it's that simple then how come you don't fathom that is the problem. They don't know and will never know what they had been given.

I don't think anyone is saying emphatically that what was taken was definitely dangerous.

The issue at hand is connecting the illegal substances that were acquired to individual players who were part of the program.

He still didnt put the lives of 40 odd teenagers/young men at risk by overseeing a program where they were injected with unknown unsafe substances

If they were unknown how can you know they were unsafe?

Because some were unsafe (fact) and some were unknown and still are no doubt

This is starting to sound like one of George W Bush's (many) whacko colleagues. Can't remember which, maybe Rumsfold or Cheney, rambled on about "known unknowns, and unknown unknowns".

Now regardless of whether what James' young charges were given by injection was really known, but would be best (from James' viewpoint) to be regarded as unknown, or whether it was really an unknown unknown it was incredibly irresponsible and totally failed any duty of care encumbent on the coach, the match committee / football department and ultimately the boards and CEO.

HH is spot on. OldDee you are nitpicking. I challenge you to be injected with an unknown substance. Unknown substances are precisely that - it could be the elixir of life or it could be anything.

At our age its probably worth the chance, I might be the next bellchambers or fletcher !

This is starting to sound like one of George W Bush's (many) whacko colleagues. Can't remember which, maybe Rumsfold or Cheney, rambled on about "known unknowns, and unknown unknowns".

Now regardless of whether what James' young charges were given by injection was really known, but would be best (from James' viewpoint) to be regarded as unknown, or whether it was really an unknown unknown it was incredibly irresponsible and totally failed any duty of care encumbent on the coach, the match committee / football department and ultimately the boards and CEO.

Cannot disagree with your second para mono.

I have said Hird and company are at fault and should not be at the bombers.

Actually Hird is nearly the only left which is a discrace.

However I still say how can you categorically say you were inject with a dangerous substance if you don't what is was?

Cannot disagree with your second para mono.

I have said Hird and company are at fault and should not be at the bombers.

Actually Hird is nearly the only left which is a discrace.

However I still say how can you categorically say you were inject with a dangerous substance if you don't what is was?

And i don't want to nit pick with you, but if you don't know what you are being injected with, it IS dangerous (or at very least, potentially so).


And i don't want to nit pick with you, but if you don't know what you are being injected with, it IS dangerous (or at very least, potentially so).

Think I will leave it here mono.

We all believe that they probably got something illegal

Proving it seems to be a fair bit harder as the only person who knows is not talking

There are no positive tests so we end up in the current position.

Hey guys. Happy new year to you all. Been in Hawaii for a while and just returned.

Anything interesting happened in AFL/Demonland while i was away?

Hey guys. Happy new year to you all. Been in Hawaii for a while and just returned.

Anything interesting happened in AFL/Demonland while i was away?

We not lost a game since the end of the 2013 season!

Go the Dees!

 

jake king hangs out with a bikie and they are talking about delisting him

Essendon are under investigation by the ACC no less for getting illegal performance enhancing drugs possibly through criminal organisations and its fine

Hey guys. Happy new year to you all. Been in Hawaii for a while and just returned.

Anything interesting happened in AFL/Demonland while i was away?

The boys have been training the house down ... :lol:


Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

Featured Content

  • PREVIEW: Richmond

    A few years ago, the Melbourne Football Club produced a documentary about the decade in which it rose from its dystopic purgatory of regular thrashings to the euphoria of a premiership victory. That entire period could have been compressed in a fast motion version of the 2025 season to date as the Demons went from embarrassing basket case to glorious winner in an unexpected victory over the Dockers last Saturday. They transformed in a single week from a team that put in a pedestrian effort of predictably kicking the ball long down the line into attack that made a very ordinary Bombers outfit look like worldbeaters into a slick, fast moving side with urgency and a willingness to handball and create play with shorter kicks and by changing angles to generate an element of chaos that yielded six goals in each of the opening quarters against Freo. 

    • 0 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland

  • NON-MFC: Round 07

    Round 7 gets underway in iconic fashion with the traditional ANZAC Day blockbuster. The high-flying Magpies will be looking to solidify their spot atop the ladder, while the Bombers are desperate for a win to stay in touch with the top eight. Later that evening, Fremantle will be out to redeem themselves after a disappointing loss to the Demons, facing a hungry Adelaide side with eyes firmly set on breaking into the top four. Saturday serves up a triple-header of footy action. The Lions will be looking to consolidate their Top 2 spot as they head to Marvel Stadium to clash with the Saints. Over in Adelaide, Port Adelaide will be strong favourites at home against a struggling North Melbourne. The day wraps up with a fiery encounter in Canberra, where the Giants and Bulldogs renew their bitter rivalry. Sunday’s schedule kicks off with the Suns aiming to bounce back from their shock defeat to Richmond, taking on the out of form Swans.Then the Blues will be out to claim a major scalp when they battle the Cats at the MCG. The round finishes with a less-than-thrilling affair between Hawthorn and West Coast at Marvel. Who are you tipping and what are the best results for the Demons?

    • 3 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland

  • REPORT: Fremantle

    For this year’s Easter Saturday game at the MCG, Simon Goodwin and his Demons wound the clock back a few years to wipe out the horrible memories of last season’s twin thrashings at the hands of the Dockers. And it was about time! Melbourne’s indomitable skipper Max Gawn put in a mammoth performance in shutting out his immediate opponent Sean Darcy in the ruck and around the ground and was a colossus at the end when the game was there to be won or lost. It was won by 16.11.107 to 14.13.97. There was the battery-charged Easter Bunny in Kysaiah Pickett running anyone wearing purple ragged, whether at midfield stoppages or around the big sticks. He finish with a five goal haul.

    • 0 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland

  • CASEY: UWS Giants

    The Casey Demons took on an undefeated UWS Giants outfit at their own home ground on a beautiful autumn day but found themselves completely out of their depth going down by 53 points against a well-drilled and fair superior combination. Despite having 15 AFL listed players at their disposal - far more than in their earlier matches this season - the Demons were never really in the game and suffered their second defeat in a row after their bright start to the season when they drew with the Kangaroos, beat the Suns and matched the Cats for most of the day on their own dung heap at Corio Bay. The Giants were a different proposition altogether. They had a very slight wind advantage in the opening quarter but were too quick off the mark for the Demons, tearing the game apart by the half way mark of the term when they kicked the first five goals with clean and direct football.

    • 0 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland

  • PREGAME: Richmond

    The Dees are back at the MCG on Thursday for the annual blockbuster ANZAC Eve game against the Tigers. Can the Demons win back to back games for the first time since Rounds 17 & 18 last season? Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 208 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland

  • PODCAST: Fremantle

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on TUESDAY, 22nd April @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we analyse the Demons first win for the year against the Dockers. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

      • Like
    • 47 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland
View All