I am fed up with the MFC players escaping scrutiny for absolute shocking efforts. It is always the coach who gets it in the neck. These players need to get a grip if they want to cut the mustard at this level.

Always wrap them up in cotton wool and blame others! They have better facilities than ever before, they have a dozen coaches teaching them how to play football, they have everything at their disposal and yet they are so bad on they day they have to perform, one would think they have spent the previous week getting flogged in a boxing ring.

How many coaches do some of these blokes need to learn? Fair dinkum, I despair at their lousy attitude and incompetence.

There are no c*nts in our team, this football club needs some c*nt.

I am fed up with the MFC players escaping scrutiny for absolute shocking efforts. It is always the coach who gets it in the neck. These players need to get a grip if they want to cut the mustard at this level.

Always wrap them up in cotton wool and blame others! They have better facilities than ever before, they have a dozen coaches teaching them how to play football, they have everything at their disposal and yet they are so bad on they day they have to perform, one would think they have spent the previous week getting flogged in a boxing ring.

How many coaches do some of these blokes need to learn? Fair dinkum, I despair at their lousy attitude and incompetence.

The last coach played a big part in creating the list.

There are no c*nts in our team, this football club needs some c*nt.

i agree with this & add Tanking to this fragile group.

It killed them.

i agree with this & add Tanking to this fragile group.

It killed them.

Even the ones who came after that are mental.

Q for those in the know. Do we employ any sort of psychologist? I know they had a "Mental Skills Coach" last year but he's disappeared now.

There are no c*nts in our team, this football club needs some c*nt.

interesting way of looking at it. Sadly close to the mark !!

There are no c*nts in our team, this football club needs some c*nt.

Pretty damn accurate sadly

I still think that anybody at the club who was involved in 186 has to be moved on...The mindset is still there.

Look at this club compared to the top 4 clubs.

This list is shattered.

There are no c*nts in our team, this football club needs some c*nt.

There's plenty of "can't" in our team. What this football club needs is less "can't"

i agree with this & add Tanking to this fragile group.

It killed them.

I see your point, but of the 49 players who were on our list in 2009, there are only 13 left (Jones, Watts, Frawley, Sylvia, Dunn, Grimes, Garland, Davey, Jetta, Jamar, Bail, Spencer, McKenzie). That's 26%.

That does raise another point, though. I can't imagine many people in 2009 would have thought that we'd turnover 3/4 of our list by 2013. Shows you just how poor player/list management/development has been at this club.

I see your point, but of the 49 players who were on our list in 2009, there are only 13 left (Jones, Watts, Frawley, Sylvia, Dunn, Grimes, Garland, Davey, Jetta, Jamar, Bail, Spencer, McKenzie). That's 26%.

That does raise another point, though. I can't imagine many people in 2009 would have thought that we'd turnover 3/4 of our list by 2013. Shows you just how poor player/list management/development has been at this club.

and that equates to 13 mentally fragile links in the chain. Neeld tried to Blast it out, but it didn't work.

Our list freezes under pressure, no matter how well they train. They are cooked.

I hate it as a financial member of this club but it is the truth.

2 inside 50's in a first quarter. That is not Neil Craig. That is a mentally shot group of players.

Even the ones who came after that are mental.

Q for those in the know. Do we employ any sort of psychologist? I know they had a "Mental Skills Coach" last year but he's disappeared now.

all our coaches are mental.....that's part of the problem

There are no c*nts in our team, this football club needs some c*nt.

True... Scully did leave

True... Scully did leave

I would love him back.

Runs harder than anyone we have.

I would love him back.

Runs harder than anyone we have.

Rohan Bail runs as hard as Scully does.

Merely being able to run doesn't make you a decent footballer.

The recruitment of Byrnes and Rodan just hasn't worked. I was excited by the thought of them both being in the team but we haven't gotten anything close to what they had been capable of at previous clubs. Plus, Neeld outlined that they were there for leadership and for cultural reasons too, which I just think is wrong. Neither has shown much passion and neither has been a regular in the team. Pedersen was also unnecessary. We still don't have enough talent aged 21 or under.

The club tried a kind coach (DB), that didnt work so they tried a tough school teacher (MN), that didnt work, now the intrim coach (NC) who is well liked within the club and by the players despite good results didnt work this weekend.

It starts and finishes with this talentless, lazy and unfit list. To think these players get paid on average $200k to spectate....

i agree with this & add Tanking to this fragile group.

It killed them.

Blease

Byrnes

Clark

Clisby

Davis

Dawes

Evans

Fitzpatrick

Gawn

Howe

M Jones

Kent

Macdonald

Magner

McDonald

McKenzie

Nicholson

Pedersen

Rodan

Sellar

Spencer

Stark

Taggert

Tapscott

Terlich

Toumpas

Tynan

Viney

What do these players have in common? They all started playing for the Dees after the 2009 'tanking' year. Get over it and stop consistently dragging on an issue which only effected less than half of our current players.

Broken record WYL...

Blease

Byrnes

Clark

Clisby

Davis

Dawes

Evans

Fitzpatrick

Gawn

Howe

M Jones

Kent

Macdonald

Magner

McDonald

McKenzie

Nicholson

Pedersen

Rodan

Sellar

Spencer

Stark

Taggert

Tapscott

Terlich

Toumpas

Tynan

Viney

What do these players have in common? They all started playing for the Dees after the 2009 'tanking' year. Get over it and stop consistently dragging on an issue which only effected less than half of our current players.

Broken record WYL...

and how many of the older Leaders are still playing who were there??

It's a reality & still an issue. Sorry if it bores you.

Cancer keeps growing until it is completely removed.

and how many of the older Leaders are still playing who were there??

It's a reality & still an issue. Sorry if it bores you.

Cancer keeps growing until it is completely removed.

WYL you wont be happy until the whole world is burnt down.

WYL you wont be happy until the whole world is burnt down.

incorrect.

I just wish the MFC would start playing football.

They havent done it for a long time.

The whole playing list just needs to harden up and play like men instead they play like a bunch of headless chooks

Having read through this thread I think while most of these reasons are correct we are also missing one of the most obvious.

If since 2009 the only have 13 players left on the list and have had 4 coaches, we seriously lack on field stability and cohesion.

If we wonder why the last seems so mentally fragile, maybe the uncertainty of list position and constantly changing coaching instructions goes a way to explaining why they play like they do.

The players have hardly paid a full season together, what chance have they have to develop instinctive pay or Trust that others will be where they should to support and receive?

What we need next most of all in my opinion is stability. A period of 3 to 5 years where the players can pay together and develop under one coach. Develop s core group, develop a culture and some consistency of message.

Having read through this thread I think while most of these reasons are correct we are also missing one of the most obvious.

If since 2009 the only have 13 players left on the list and have had 4 coaches, we seriously lack on field stability and cohesion.

If we wonder why the last seems so mentally fragile, maybe the uncertainty of list position and constantly changing coaching instructions goes a way to explaining why they play like they do.

The players have hardly paid a full season together, what chance have they have to develop instinctive pay or Trust that others will be where they should to support and receive?

What we need next most of all in my opinion is stability. A period of 3 to 5 years where the players can pay together and develop under one coach. Develop s core group, develop a culture and some consistency of message.

A very good post.....

I would love him back.

Runs harder than anyone we have.

Same, Scully is going to be a very good player.