Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

Strong core, shakes tacklers, good sideways agility, hard to tackle, finds space, good kick. You can see why he was highly rated.

  • Like 2

Posted

You'd hope he can have more of an impact on the contest than TJ did.

A bit harsh. TJ's career was certainly underwhelming but his best footy around 2002 - 2005 was poetry.

  • Like 2
Posted

171254-jimmy-toumpas.jpg

This pic exibits the exact reason why Jimmy cant be compared to Wines right now. Wines was a ready made player (pic taken pre draft) with a full preseason under his belt.

Jimmy had a double hip operation, a shortened pre season and is 2 years behind in physical development.

Once Jimmy gets rid of the baby fat and strengthens his core I think we will have a gun on our hands.

I was in the pick Ollie Wines boat pre draft because I wanted someone to be ready made in our midfield.

In hindsight I believe we made the right choice in Jimmy as his skills and execution are streets ahead of Wines.

We just have to give him at least a couple more pre seasons to compare.

Gee and Melboune didnt need a ready made player This club needs to get serious We NEED ready made players now!

Posted

Correct. There wasn't a recruiter in the land that would have taken Wines over Toumpas.

I know of one club that was gobsmaked that GWS didn't take him at 2 or 3. They thought JT was 10 times the player of Jonathan O'Rourke who GWS took at 2.

Who knows, GWS passing over JT might just have all been part of the minidraft/Viney deal???

So How long will it take? to have him impacting games

Posted

I am very confident at the end of their respective careers Jimmy Toumpas will have been a better player than Ollie Wines

Wines was ready to go, but Jimmy was super impressive in my opinion today, tough conditions against the best opposition going and he stood up.

  • Like 2
Posted

Gee and Melboune didnt need a ready made player This club needs to get serious We NEED ready made players now!

no that's not true, it's part of a plan to develop young players so in a few years we can actually challenge for something real (a big cup)

i woul rather have Toump the way he is now and not be as good as wines.

but in 2-3 years Toump will be way ahead of Wines. the guys skills are a highlight to watch

  • Like 1
Posted

he is all class

  • Like 2

Posted

His disposal in the wet was first class. He handled it like it was dry and he as he one Melbourne player who found time and space to useit well.

Will be a very classy player.

  • Like 2
Posted

Not sure if anyone has actually watched Olllie Wines play, but his disposal is atrocious. Like, really bad.

Toumpas will be a better player, comfortably.

  • Like 2

Posted

How is that comment biased? It's a pretty fair point that you can't tell 10 games into their respective careers who is going to end up the better player.

My first sentence was directed at the poster in question.

My second point was directed at the thread.

Posted

It is not atrocious, that's a fallacy.

Its absolutely true.

He had queries on his disposal in the under 18's too.

Go watch him play for Port, the guy is a terrible kick.

Posted (edited)

his ball use was excellent.

but he missed an opportunity to take a mark in defence in the second quarter because he was scared of the hit - had an 'uncontested spoil' instead.

once he backs himself to take those grabs he'll be good.

we desperately need the likes of viney and [insert draft pick(s) here] to get the ball on his hands. he's a lovely kick.

If you'd been at the game, you would have thought that was definitely the right decision. It was bucketing down. No one had taken those all day. He went back and completed the spoil. Right decision. Rather than trying to mark it, dropping it in the slippery conditions and allowing a Geelong player to run into an open goal. It was a great decision.

Edited by AdamFarr
  • Like 2
Posted (edited)

I cant believe the amount of pressure placed on these young draftees. They need time to mature and get use to the game at AFL level. I suppose it's a sign of the times, wanting everything right now. Toump will be a gun, give the lad at least a couple of seasons. It will come

Edited by Kenny Powers
  • Like 1
Posted

no that's not true, it's part of a plan to develop young players so in a few years we can actually challenge for something real (a big cup)

i woul rather have Toump the way he is now and not be as good as wines.

but in 2-3 years Toump will be way ahead of Wines. the guys skills are a highlight to watch

They are different types of players. It's like comparing Sidebottom with Sewell. Wines will be an important player for Port and if Jimmy keeps developing, he'll be an important contributor for us.


Posted

I have absolutely no doubts about this kid.

Great character too. Quite frankly, I can't believe we got him at pick 4.

I'd love Ollie Wines as well. But it's not really about Toumpas v Wines IMO - they are different players, and, in any event, we picked the more highly rated one of the two.

  • Like 3
Posted

I have absolutely no doubts about this kid.

Great character too. Quite frankly, I can't believe we got him at pick 4.

I'd love Ollie Wines as well. But it's not really about Toumpas v Wines IMO - they are different players, and, in any event, we picked the more highly rated one of the two.

We lack midfield grunt and from what I've watched of Wines he goes alright in that department. Granted that we also need players like Toumpas and considering we were assured of Viney it's logical that we chose Jimmy before Ollie.

Still too early to call IMO but on the back of yesterdays game I feel a lot better than I did when Wines burst on to the scene at the beginning of the season.

Posted

Having seen a photo of him today playing aginst the Cats he seems to be getting a lot bigger already and he looks very strong through the legs and hips which is a very good thing (see Ablett jr). I personally think he has the potential to be as damaging as a Griffen or Dangerfield once he gets more power through his legs. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a dramatic rise in his output next season similar to Chad Wingard this year. Very excited about this one though don't want to jinx him.

  • Like 1
Posted

Jimmy is " DEVELOPING" .

We will see a much better player after another injury free pre season.

Sincerely hope so Redleg because I have heard your comment quite times in the last six years and most of them are now playing a lot lower than the AFL.
Posted

It's amazing how the attitude towards him has changed so much in a few weeks. Just a few rounds ago people were calling him soft and some even saying he was another dudded pick.

I didn't see the game Saturday but from all accounts he played very well and the stats show the same. Coming along very nicely I think.

Posted

I have no issues with Jimmy I think he is coming along well. I wish we had a half decent team so we could see Jimmy run and carry the footy a bit more. Seeing Jimmy on the run through the guts kicking to any forward on the lead would be poetry in motion.

  • Like 3

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Wednesday 18th December 2024

    It was the final session of 2024 before the Christmas/New Years break and the Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force to bring you the following preseason training observations from Wednesday's session at Gosch's Paddock. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS TRAINING: Petracca, Oliver, Melksham, Woewodin, Langdon, Rivers, Billings, Sestan, Viney, Fullarton, Adams, Langford, Lever, Petty, Spargo, Fritsch, Bowey, Laurie, Kozzy, Mentha, George, May, Gawn, Turner Tholstrup, Kentfi

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 16th December 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers braved the sweltering heat to bring you their Preseason Training observations from Gosch's Paddock on Monday morning. SCOOP JUNIOR'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I went down today in what were pretty ordinary conditions - hot and windy. When I got there, they were doing repeat simulations of a stoppage on the wing and then moving the ball inside 50. There seemed to be an emphasis on handballing out of the stoppage, usually there were 3 or 4 handballs to

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1

    TRAINING: Friday 13th December 2024

    With only a few sessions left before the Christmas break a number of Demonlander Trackwatchers headed down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from this morning's preseason training session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS PLAYERS IN ATTENDANCE: JVR, Salem, McVee, Petracca, Windsor, Viney, Lever, Spargo, Turner, Gawn, Tholstrup, Oliver, Billings, Langdon, Laurie, Bowey, Melksham, Langford, Lindsay, Jefferson, Howes, McAdam, Rivers, TMac, Adams, Hore, Verrall,

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 11th December 2024

    A few new faces joined our veteran Demonland Trackwatchers on a beautiful morning out at Gosch's Paddock for another Preseason Training Session. BLWNBA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I arrived at around 1015 and the squad was already out on the track. The rehab group consisted of XL, McAdam, Melksham, Spargo and Sestan. Lever was also on restricted duties and appeared to be in runners.  The main group was doing end-to-end transition work in a simulated match situation. Ball mov

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 9th December 2024

    Once again Demonland Trackwatchers were in attendance at the first preseason training session for the week at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations. WAYNE WUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Looks like very close to 100% attendance. Kelani is back. Same group in rehab. REHAB: Spargo, Lever, Lindsay, Brown & McAdam. Haven’t laid eyes on Fritsch or AMW yet. Fritsch sighted. One unknown mature standing with Goody. Noticing Nathan Bassett much m

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Friday 6th December 2024

    Some veteran Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations from another Preseason Training Session. WAYNE WUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Rehab: Lever, Spargo, McAdam, Lindsay, Brown Sinnema is excellent by foot and has a decent vertical leap. Windsor is training with the Defenders. Windsor's run won't be lost playing off half back. In 19 games in 2024 he kicked 8 goals as a winger. I see him getting shots at g

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 4th December 2024

    A couple of intrepid Demonland Trackwatchers headed down to Gosch's Paddock for the midweek Preseason Training Session to bring you the following observations. Demonland's own Whispering Jack was not in attendance but he kicked off proceedings with the following summary of all the Preseason Training action to date. We’re already a month into the MFC preseason (if you started counting when the younger players in the group began the campaign along with some of the more keen older heads)

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 2

    BEST OF THE REST by Meggs

    Meggs' Review of Melbourne's AFLW Season 9 ... Congratulations first off to the North Melbourne Kangaroos on winning the 2024 AFLW Premiership. Roos Coach Darren Crocker has assembled a team chock-full of competitive and highly skilful players who outclassed the Brisbane Lions in the Grand Final to remain undefeated throughout Season 9. A huge achievement in what was a dominant season by North. For Melbourne fans, the season was unfortunately one of frustration and disappointment

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Monday 2nd December 2024

    There were many Demonland Trackwatchers braving the morning heat at Gosch's Paddock today to witness the players go through the annual 2km time trials. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Max, TMac & Melksham the first ones out on the track.  Runners are on. Guess they will be doing a lot of running.  TRAINING: Max, TMac, Melksham, Woey, Rivers, AMW, May, Sharp, Kolt, Adams, Sparrow, Jefferson, Billings, Petty, chandler, Howes, Lever, Kozzy, Mentha, Fullarton, Sal

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...