Pre season we gave away a high first round pick for Cam Pederson.

Two weeks ago he played in a forward line where Clark was playing. So also in the team were Jamar and Watts. Pederson kicked 2.

Last week Clark was out but Watts played half a game forward. Pederson played, poorly I thought.

But this week injuries took out all of Clark,jamar and Watts. Yet Pederson was dropped meaning we had no forward talls except the resting rucks, and half the time one was on the bench.

Surely Pederson Had to play this week, or if he was considered TOO bad last game, Sellar. Or Fitzpatrick. SOMEONE!. It was plain that our mids would be under pressure. They were. When under pressure it's a reasonable option to kick long towards the square. Time and again today this option was not available. Pathetic coaching blunder--not just Neeld of course, the whole mob.

No point having a tall forward when Neeld doesn't have anyone within 70m of our goals...

If you reckon not picking Pedo lost us the game, then i don't know what to say to you. I thought he was in our worst few on ground last week, so I can understand Neeld dropping him. It is just a shame both Clark and Dawes are out. At least we'll get one back this week.

You r missing the point Chook. You have to have one tall on the forward line. Today there were many moment when we had none and Trengove was FF for God's sake,

You r missing the point Chook. You have to have one tall on the forward line. Today there were many moment when we had none and Trengove was FF for God's sake,

Trengove was there for a rest. He was not full forward for any other reason. Sure our forward line broke down today, but having Pederson in there would not have helped all that much at all.

If you reckon not picking Pedo lost us the game, then i don't know what to say to you. I thought he was in our worst few on ground last week, so I can understand Neeld dropping him. It is just a shame both Clark and Dawes are out. At least we'll get one back this week.

Agreed. In any case, Sellar was off sick last week, and is probably underdone (not to mention, has played his only decent football for us down back). Pedersen didn't deserve a place, and Fitzy is probably still considered not AFL fit/ready after coming back from his own injuries and concussion.

You can only pick from available players, or players who've earned a place.

Pre season we gave away a high first round pick for Cam Pederson.

Two weeks ago he played in a forward line where Clark was playing. So also in the team were Jamar and Watts. Pederson kicked 2.

Last week Clark was out but Watts played half a game forward. Pederson played, poorly I thought.

But this week injuries took out all of Clark,jamar and Watts. Yet Pederson was dropped meaning we had no forward talls except the resting rucks, and half the time one was on the bench.

Surely Pederson Had to play this week, or if he was considered TOO bad last game, Sellar. Or Fitzpatrick. SOMEONE!. It was plain that our mids would be under pressure. They were. When under pressure it's a reasonable option to kick long towards the square. Time and again today this option was not available. Pathetic coaching blunder--not just Neeld of course, the whole mob.

I agree with you to a point. I was hopeful last week but when I saw the team, my shoulders dropped; we were 2 talls short. I couldn't understand it because we could have brought some more height in even if they weren't as ready as we would prefer. The Blues must have chickled when they saw what was put up.

Pre season we gave away a high first round pick for Cam Pederson.

Two weeks ago he played in a forward line where Clark was playing. So also in the team were Jamar and Watts. Pederson kicked 2.

Last week Clark was out but Watts played half a game forward. Pederson played, poorly I thought.

But this week injuries took out all of Clark,jamar and Watts. Yet Pederson was dropped meaning we had no forward talls except the resting rucks, and half the time one was on the bench.

Surely Pederson Had to play this week, or if he was considered TOO bad last game, Sellar. Or Fitzpatrick. SOMEONE!. It was plain that our mids would be under pressure. They were. When under pressure it's a reasonable option to kick long towards the square. Time and again today this option was not available. Pathetic coaching blunder--not just Neeld of course, the whole mob.

The bungle was in trading for him at all. Pedersen is a lemon. Has ok hands, is an ok kick, slow and with no footy smarts at all. I'm perfectly happy to see him on the sidelines.

Considering we will lose regardless I'd rather lose whilst still playing a structure with traditional sized players. I'd have kept Pedersen. If anything it would free up Howe or Tapscott to get a reasonable sized opponent.

Question is, for all that he is moderately tall, would Pederson actually have taken many marks up forward?

I would guess that in the absence of basically all our key forward options the only way we could be competitive was to get as much running power out on the field as possible.

Question is, for all that he is moderately tall, would Pederson actually have taken many marks up forward?

I would guess that in the absence of basically all our key forward options the only way we could be competitive was to get as much running power out on the field as possible.

Well it didn't work. To seeTrengove on Jamieson, to see Henderson dominating , just showed what pathetic thinking it was, if poor Trngove is struggling why on earth put him at FF? I again say that Pederson was poor last week, but you have to maintain structure, and we had none

Well it didn't work. To seeTrengove on Jamieson, to see Henderson dominating , just showed what pathetic thinking it was, if poor Trngove is struggling why on earth put him at FF? I again say that Pederson was poor last week, but you have to maintain structure, and we had none

I just don't think that Neeld is going to gift AFL games after poor performances.

Our forward line was shite and Cam P's influence would have been minimal....but I can see where you're coming from.

Edited May 5, 201312 yr by jumbo returns

I must admit I had expected Garland or Frawley play forward this week. But rather than criticise, I'll say that (1) leaving Garland and Frawley in the backline and (2) playing Dunn on Judd - which occurred because Garland and Frawley both played back - were the correct moves. I thought they were the three of our best on the day.

Gillies, Rodan, Pedersen will be gone at years end

Poor draft picks but didn't cost us anything

The bungle was not giving Fitzy a crack.

Maybe too valuable at Casey.

Agreed. In any case, Sellar was off sick last week, and is probably underdone (not to mention, has played his only decent football for us down back). Pedersen didn't deserve a place, and Fitzy is probably still considered not AFL fit/ready after coming back from his own injuries and concussion.

You can only pick from available players, or players who've earned a place.

Ahh, common sense! Refreshing.

The bungle was in trading for him at all. Pedersen is a lemon. Has ok hands, is an ok kick, slow and with no footy smarts at all. I'm perfectly happy to see him on the sidelines.

In a nutshell ..

Gillies, Rodan, Pedersen will be gone at years end

Poor draft picks but didn't cost us anything

Yes it did.

Surely one of Dawes or Fitzpatrick comes in this week (preferably Dawes, I don't know if I can stomach seeing Fitzpatrick play again).

Surely one of Dawes or Fitzpatrick comes in this week (preferably Dawes, I don't know if I can stomach seeing Fitzpatrick play again).

Actually my stomach turns on some of the complete and utter rubbish posted on here, Pedersen has played 20 AFL games, he is still developing, one of the reasons we traded for him

Actually my stomach turns on some of the complete and utter rubbish posted on here, Pedersen has played 20 AFL games, he is still developing, one of the reasons we traded for him

You would have the sick bucket at the ready every time your post count goes up wouldn't you?

Actually my stomach turns on some of the complete and utter rubbish posted on here, Pedersen has played 20 AFL games, he is still developing, one of the reasons we traded for him

There is a reason why he has only played 20 games ..

Yes it did.

No it didn't.

Actually my stomach turns on some of the complete and utter rubbish posted on here, Pedersen has played 20 AFL games, he is still developing, one of the reasons we traded for him

Second AFL club, 26 yo and only 20 games came to the club underdone for pre season. May tell some of the story as well.

I will give you still developing with Matt Jones as a mature ager first year in the system but Pedesen needs to get a wriggle on.

Second AFL club, 26 yo and only 20 games came to the club underdone for pre season. May tell some of the story as well.

I will give you still developing with Matt Jones as a mature ager first year in the system but Pedesen needs to get a wriggle on.

Love these topics and the posters are the usual members or the Hole in the Head gang, keyboards running hot with negativity, rain clouds hovering

Jones is a differnt type of player, but bloody good on him for doing so well

He was a mature age recruit at North, drafted for a purpose which then didn't eventuate, why was he underdone, proof.

My previous post, nice to see CFB come back with his usual incisive garbage, I await the day when he will actually post something that a. is related to the topic b. not having a go at somebody...but then again I may be in for a long wait

Rodan doesn't have to be in the AFL side to influence, I watched the Casey game and he was one who help drag Casey back into the game in the last qtr, to just fall short