Spencer? Hmmm nothing special there from my observations

Gawn? No clue whatsoever, almost zero game time so far.

Any ideas?

Gawn when fit will be our next ruckman.

Spencer as number 2

Next draft we will pick up a ruckman

Definitely not from somewhere on our list. Draft or free agency

Spencer is being kept for depth this year. In case Jamar went down we couldn't rely on Gawn due to injury so we needed Spencer. He'll need to improve dramatically to stay on the list.

I have little confidence in Fitzy but as a ruck his speed might be more useful than first thought. We can reassess him in August.

Gawn on the other hand has really only being set back by injury and has proven he is a beast at VFL and a prospect in some AFL he has played. 2 knee reco's is worrying.

I'd say Gawn is still on track to be an above average starting ruck by the time he's 25 which is the age for ruckmen.

The X factor is big Mitch Clark. With Dawes and Hogan we could transfer Clark to starting ruck and keep Pedersen as backup.

At the end of this year the ruck situation will have to be assessed. Spencer and Fitzpatrick are playing for their careers and if they aren't up to it we will need replacements. Whether they be 18 year olds or mature players depends on who's available. Giles from GWS proved a bargain pick up 2 years ago and now Currie from North looks decent enough to at least be a good back up. Value is out there if we are clever.

Spencer is being kept for depth this year. In case Jamar went down we couldn't rely on Gawn due to injury so we needed Spencer. He'll need to improve dramatically to stay on the list.

I have little confidence in Fitzy but as a ruck his speed might be more useful than first thought. We can reassess him in August.

Gawn on the other hand has really only being set back by injury and has proven he is a beast at VFL and a prospect in some AFL he has played. 2 knee reco's is worrying.

I'd say Gawn is still on track to be an above average starting ruck by the time he's 25 which is the age for ruckmen.

The X factor is big Mitch Clark. With Dawes and Hogan we could transfer Clark to starting ruck and keep Pedersen as backup.

At the end of this year the ruck situation will have to be assessed. Spencer and Fitzpatrick are playing for their careers and if they aren't up to it we will need replacements. Whether they be 18 year olds or mature players depends on who's available. Giles from GWS proved a bargain pick up 2 years ago and now Currie from North looks decent enough to at least be a good back up. Value is out there if we are clever.

Unless Gawn, Spencer or Fitzpatrick come on, I would think the bolded sentence above is right on the money (just not sure about the Pedersen part).

Gawn is the most talented and has something about him i reckon, some confidence and competitiveness and a really good size. - a good chance to make it if he can get over his knee injuries and get some continuity.

Spencer has size and athletic ability with not a lot of football ability - a slight chance to make it.

Fitzpatrick will be thrown on the Pendergrast long list of terrible drafting decisions by this club. delisted end of year and yes will play some good games at Casey. it won't save him.

Gawn is the most talented and has something about him i reckon, some confidence and competitiveness and a really good size. - a good chance to make it if he can get over his knee injuries and get some continuity.

Spencer has size and athletic ability with not a lot of football ability - a slight chance to make it.

Fitzpatrick will be thrown on the Pendergrast long list of terrible drafting decisions by this club. delisted end of year and yes will play some good games at Casey. it won't save him.

I agree BR

This season will show if Gawn has the body to endure AFL football.

So far his body has been far from convincing.

But in reality we have seen him on the ground so little he is a guess at this point

Gawn is the most talented and has something about him i reckon, some confidence and competitiveness and a really good size. - a good chance to make it if he can get over his knee injuries and get some continuity.

Spencer has size and athletic ability with not a lot of football ability - a slight chance to make it.

Fitzpatrick will be thrown on the Pendergrast long list of terrible drafting decisions by this club. delisted end of year and yes will play some good games at Casey. it won't save him.

Let's not go rewriting history. He was taken at pick 50, for crying out loud. And it's not as if world-beaters were drafted after him, really.

Unless Gawn, Spencer or Fitzpatrick come on, I would think the bolded sentence above is right on the money (just not sure about the Pedersen part).

I think that the club would be thinking/hoping Gawn is the next number 1.... And Mitch playing the alternative Ruck... I don't reckon Mitch sees himself as the number 1 ruck.

I can't see why Hogan, Dawes and Clark can't fit up forward... Nth, Richmond have 3 talls most weeks.. GWS (if Sheeds is serious) think that they could play Buddy in with Cameron and Patton.

Gawn

Mr and Mrs Gawn.

Gawn

I hope not!

I hope not!

Why would any supporter hope that Gawny doesnt make it?

Youve really got to wonder sometimes.

Why would you waste Clark in the ruck after seeing him in the fwd 50 last year, Spencer is still growing into the role, Gawn needs to get games under his belt, and Fitzy has had chronic fatigue, diabetes and is still growing but he is more than able to start competing in the ruck, Neelds says so....and then we have Jamar, Pedersen, Sellar......why are we already looking at changing????? some posters astound me

Why would any supporter hope that Gawny doesnt make it?

Youve really got to wonder sometimes.

Why, you are reading Demonland, I read it, have a laugh to myself unless it is a vicious attack, then I will post, or just move on.....Melbourne "supporters' on this board will never make me wonder

Spencer? Hmmm nothing special there from my observations

Gawn? No clue whatsoever, almost zero game time so far.

Any ideas?

We might also try and get Hannath back from Freo if they go after Buddy and need cap room, given they have the Giant, Clarke, Griffen, Bradley a Rookie and others.

Why would any supporter hope that Gawny doesnt make it?

Youve really got to wonder sometimes.

It was a joke deeZee

Read as I Hope he is not Gone.

Using Gawn as a play on words

Why, you are reading Demonland, I read it, have a laugh to myself unless it is a vicious attack, then I will post, or just move on.....Melbourne "supporters' on this board will never make me wonder

It was a joke Satyriconhome as I think you noticed.

We might also try and get Hannath back from Freo if they go after Buddy and need cap room.

He is off to GWS Redleg no one else will be able to match their money plus AFL assistance.

Definitely Gawn. This boy has both size and talent - if he can work through injuries. Don't be fooled by the amicable personality and the goofy grin. He is a strong mark and not a bad kick (forgetting his first ever shot on goal!!!).

Spencer is the no. 2 at the moment, but I reckon we will recruit another ruckman at the end of this season.

I think both these guys are on equal footing..Gawn has untapped potential & looked great I thought before he went down..

Spencer has shown ability but injured too often..

Equal for me.

He is off to GWS Redleg no one else will be able to match their money plus AFL assistance.

Not so sure, Freo will throw the whole State at him. Then again he may stay at Hawks.

Not so sure, Freo will throw the whole State at him. Then again he may stay at Hawks.

Lucky we are talking about this on this thread Redleg

But I think we have TS all over again.

Not so sure, Freo will throw the whole State at him. Then again he may stay at Hawks.

If the coach says "its buddy, or me", I think buddies gettin' new friends, up north.

We might also try and get Hannath back from Freo if they go after Buddy and need cap room, given they have the Giant, Clarke, Griffen, Bradley a Rookie and others.

Hannath is more valuable now that Sandy has gone down. Sandilands is on the wrong side of 30 yrs now and Freo must be concerned with his string of injuries.