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For all those interested, I am having a wager that Stef Martin will touch his hair more than the he touches the pill in tonight's GF.

Will report back after the game with how many touches but I'm going to say at least 15 will be visible from the cameras.

And why not, it's a lovely crop.

Everyone still rapt to see the back of Moloney?

Everyone still rapt to see the back of Moloney?

Yes. Your point?

He had plenty of opportunity to do what he's doing in Brisbane with us.

Watching the final. Moloney has been decent but not outstanding. Martin hasn't done much.

I like Moloney's inability to put on defensive pressure and refusal to run hard going the other way......... ahh the memories

His clearance work has been good though, has some good mids around him now to make up for his lack of defence

Think this is an ironic thread after we've signed Clark, Dawes, Rodan, Byrnes, Pedersen, Gillies etc lately... Surely we're expecting them to "fire up"?

For whatever reason, sometimes players just don't click with a new coach, gameplan, requirements, culture etc etc, if they can turn it around at a new club it doesn't mean that player was in the wrong, or the coach played them wrong it just means they've been put in a role that the new team needed and happened to suit their strengths. It was clear last year Moloney didn't have a role that suits the way Neeld wants the team to play, so it was better for him and the team that he move on. I'm less convinced about the Martin and Gysberts moves as they seem more of a gamble, but I'm trusting Neeld and Co and their behind the scenes knowledge on that.

Everyone still rapt to see the back of Moloney?

yep. He walked. Should have done it 12 months earlier.

Nothing irritates me more than, players who decide they are going to play well when they join another club.

Perfect example is Moloney whose eftort last year was a disgrace, and now all of a sudden looks a million dollars with Brisbane.

It is frustrating to see Moloney playing well (looks like he has slimmed down, as for Martin he seems to ball watch every contest and then just stand there.

I only watched a little bit of the game because I just couldn't physically watch the 30 free kicks a quater (people don't go to the footy to watch the umpires!)

yep. He walked. Should have done it 12 months earlier.

Silly call WYL. We all would have been disappointed if he walked after a BnF and a fair few Brownlow votes. With the way it went, it was shown he couldn't fit the requirements or role he needed to and he moved on with no questions over him at MFC.

Stef Martin having a shocker tonight. Looks almost like he's playing for Carlton.

Silly call WYL. We all would have been disappointed if he walked after a BnF and a fair few Brownlow votes. With the way it went, it was shown he couldn't fit the requirements or role he needed to and he moved on with no questions over him at MFC.

Not a silly call at all sadly. After 186 it was all over for Moloney.

I know you will disagree but it is what it is.

It was mutiny that day.

Silly call WYL. We all would have been disappointed if he walked after a BnF and a fair few Brownlow votes. With the way it went, it was shown he couldn't fit the requirements or role he needed to and he moved on with no questions over him at MFC.

Agreed Stuie - Neeld is all about defence first

Moloney can't play defence to save his life - it's no suprise he is now in Brisbane. Moloney is a decent offesive player - his brownlow votes support that fact.

He fell out with Neeld and moved on - I have no ill will towards Beamer, sometimes a move is good for everyone

Everyone still rapt to see the back of Moloney?

Hell yes. I've been calling for it for years now. He was a cancer on the club as big as any we've had in years.

Not a silly call at all sadly. After 186 it was all over for Moloney.

I know you will disagree but it is what it is.

It was mutiny that day.

Oh FFS WYL. Get over 186. Seriously.

if cale morton plays well at west coast i am not going to be a happy camper.

That's IF he gets a game.

Not a silly call at all sadly. After 186 it was all over for Moloney.

I know you will disagree but it is what it is.

It was mutiny that day.

Ahh yes '186' a day that will live in MFC infamy

Let's hope these wrong can righted - Moloney etc all leaving can only be a positive step for our club. Ppl will rightly say people involved are still at the club, but lets take one step at a time before righting all these wrongs.

Ahh yes '186' a day that will live in MFC infamy

Let's hope these wrong can righted - Moloney etc all leaving can only be a positive step for our club. Ppl will rightly say people involved are still at the club, but lets take one step at a time before righting all these wrongs.

We can only go forward UH. But i will be watching Beamer closely because he CAN play...he didn't want to for the whole year, and after what happened to Jimmy just before the season began i consider that action a disgrace from someone "who bled Red & Blue"...yeah right.

I like Moloney's inability to put on defensive pressure and refusal to run hard going the other way......... ahh the memories

His clearance work has been good though, has some good mids around him now to make up for his lack of defence

I started watching at half time where the commentators drew attention to the fact that whilst he had 8 clearances, he also turned the ball over continually by just bombing away once he got his hands on it. Same old Beamer. He might rack up the stats and no doubt will be reborn this year now that he can play on his own terms, but his lack of effectiveness will still be an issue.

In answer to whether I'm still rapt he's gone..absolutely I am.

Ahh yes '186' a day that will live in MFC infamy

Yes, it's the MFC's own "great tea trolley disaster of '67".

Martin's looking his usual athletic yet uncoordinated self tonight.

Hell yes. I've been calling for it for years now. He was a cancer on the club as big as any we've had in years.

you're a fair dinkum [censored]. A cancer? I've never heard more rubbish

Hell yes. I've been calling for it for years now. He was a cancer on the club as big as any we've had in years.

you're a fair dinkum [censored]. A cancer? I've never heard more rubbish

Welcome to MFC where we call a BnF a cancer on the club when he wins it.

Regardless of how the ex Dees are performing, I have to say that I'm loving watching Carlton getting a hiding. Jonathan Brown still has it... 5 goals without appearing to be doing much at all.

Martin is the type of bloke who would lose you a tight final with his dumb errors and poor use. He was crap tonight.

Regardless of how the ex Dees are performing, I have to say that I'm loving watching Carlton getting a hiding. Jonathan Brown still has it... 5 goals without appearing to be doing much at all.

Other than diving and ducking his way to glory. Seriously sad watching one of the toughest men in the modern era take advantage of these netball-esque rules.