The brief to Ray Finkelstein QC: what does it mean for the MFC?

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

We cannot know what sort of 'arrangement' has been entered into, insofar as retaining the counsel of Ray Finklestein QC. Needless to say, the man knows his stuff and is extremely thorough. All he needs to do is demonstrate the lack of merit in the current proceedings and the AFL will drop this like a hot scone.

The AFL commission would not want to be embarrassed any further. If Finklestein's submissions make out grounds of a lack of procedural fairness on the part of the AFL, then this could provide a precedent, for which the AFL could well do without, looking forward.

[daisycutter 29,600]

Or? How about we get the Catholic Church to run the enquiry?

You mean like the Inquisition? I thought that's what we already had, LOL

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,686]

I can just imagine Caroline Wilson reporting "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition"

[jnrmac 20,053]

Are you sure about that?

Pretty sure. I have seen enough cop shows ha ha!

[jnrmac 20,053]

Maybe they thought the "G" in "MCG" stood for "Guantanamo"?

And MC was Mea Culpa

[H_T 3,043]

Andrew Demetriou wanted Melbournefc to stand for something.

Wish granted Andrew.

[Deecisive 1,709]

The spotlight will be shone brightly on the AFL and its process and the need for it to justify why Melbourne and not others re being questioned. Good move Dees.

[daisycutter 29,600]

Pretty sure. I have seen enough cop shows ha ha!

LOL

I have this image of Law students at melb uni sitting around a tv all day watching cop and courtroom dramas, and taking notes

And reading John Grisham and Michael Connolley on the wekends to brush up on the fine details

[old dee 23,747]

Andrew Demetriou wanted Melbournefc to stand for something.

Wish granted Andrew.

Today's news is the best news in 2012 as far as I am concerned.

Finally an MFC that stands and fights for its position.

Perhaps we do have a place in the 21st Century.

Thank God and pass the ammunition!

[hoopla 418]

Its crazy that the AFL are still trawling through emails. The proof of the pudding is in the eating ............ all our eminent QC needs to do to defend us is to ask the Commission to compare two last quarters

• The last quarter of the Kreuzer Cup in 2007 when Carlton took off Fev and stood back while Melbourne ( note!) ran over them;
  
• The last quarter of the Melb v Rich game in 2009 when Melbourne came from behind (note!) to hit the front in time on - only to be pipped by a kick after the siren
  

Now forget the hot air and vaults and contradictory statements and whinges from former players Mr Commissioner - look at the evidence that matters - and tell me that Melbourne tanked!

[hoopla 418]

AKA backing down while attempting to minimise loss of face.

She even seems to be casting doubt on the most compelling piece of evidence of all - Schwab's look of disappointment after the Port Adelaide game. Not long ago she thought he should be sacked for that !!!

[Bitter but optimistic 22,218]

You mean like the Inquisition? I thought that's what we already had, LOL

Thats the idea and we could include burning Caro at the stake.

[hoopla 418]

This lead investigator has come out of a war zone. He's an army man cum-policeman.Yes Sir .... Name Rank and Serial Number Sir ....... Name Rank and Serial Number.

How can this guy understand the nuances of debate around a footy club - when humour, anger, emotion etc influence what things are said and how things are interpreted. How can this guy be an effective investigator when there is no black letter law. He is an expert grilling confessions out of sex offenders.Law and Order SVU !!

Talk about using a sledgehammer to crack a nut

The AFL have really botched this whole thing

[dee-luded 2,959]

All Demon fans should be rejoicing at the news, not only because of the legal heavy hitting nature of the fellow, but also because we have quite clearly and publicly let the powers that be know that we will fight tooth and nail if they do decide to go us.

This is very un-Melbourne-like ... and a very welcome change at a footy club that has for too long dutifully played the part of the 90-pound weakling getting sand kicked in its face at the beach.

The off-field generals are now setting the tone for the on-field soldiers to follow. Whether in the courts or across the white line of play, know that we will NO LONGER be pushed around.

Bring on 2013 and F!?#k the Establishment. We are becoming DEMONS at last!!

Thank goodness for that!!!!

All I can say is it's about time.

I was just about done trying to fight for this caupse, without any fightback occurring.

This is what we need.

[McQueen 17,864]

The AFL have really botched this whole thing

Maybe that was their intention in an effort to make it go away.

"Yes we did this poorly. Going forward, measures x, y and z have put in place to eliminate any confusion or conjecture about......."

[1858 285]

Sounds like the Darryl Kerrigan response is in order for these jokers.

"[censored] off, you clown! [censored] off!"

[jnrmac 20,053]

We cannot know what sort of 'arrangement' has been entered into, insofar as retaining the counsel of Ray Finklestein QC. Needless to say, the man knows his stuff and is extremely thorough. All he needs to do is demonstrate the lack of merit in the current proceedings and the AFL will drop this like a hot scone.

The AFL commission would not want to be embarrassed any further. If Finklestein's submissions make out grounds of a lack of procedural fairness on the part of the AFL, then this could provide a precedent, for which the AFL could well do without, looking forward.

An old political saying is that you don't ever have an inquiry unless you know the outcome beforehand.

The AFL would have had an idea of the outcome before it started. They don't want a can of worms or to embarrass their CEO form previous comments and stance.

[daisycutter 29,600]

Thats the idea and we could include burning Caro at the stake.

I'd prefer the Witch treatment

[PJ_12345 1,098]

I'd prefer the Witch treatment

Hahahahaha if I could like this twice I would.

I watched it last week and out of all the Monty Python movies this is my favourite scene.

I'd prefer to sue and get a shrubbery - one that looks nice but not too expensive.

Or possibly two shrubberies, one slightly higher than the other so we get a two level effect and we can have a path in the middle

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

An old political saying is that you don't ever have an inquiry unless you know the outcome beforehand.

The AFL would have had an idea of the outcome before it started. They don't want a can of worms or to embarrass their CEO form previous comments and stance.

Unless of course you are out flanked 'politically'. Finklestein's involvement may well just do that.

[frankie_d 1,471]

It seems to me that CW is either making this up, or getting fed by the AFL investigation or people close to it. I may be late to the party in recognising this - but I just can't believe any organisation would leak like that (other than major political parties and their spivs).

It's beyond belief if, in fact, the AFL is leaking.

[gsmith12 491]

Or? How about we get the Catholic Church to run the enquiry?

We'd get screwed for sure.

[hoopla 418]

Maybe that was their intention in an effort to make it go away.

"Yes we did this poorly. Going forward, measures x, y and z have put in place to eliminate any confusion or conjecture about......."

I reckon it wouldn't have started in the first place if Demetriou hadn't been on London. Having played the game he knew tanking wasn't provable - which is why he kept saying it wasn't happening

[az_tec 41]

that article imo sounds like carro is puling back on her tanking stance

mabee said investigators are sniffing elsewhere now.....

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

If the MFC take good legal advice on all this and stand united, there are going to be a lot of red faces and maybe a few scapegoats at AFL HQ.

Angry Anderson should have fully dealt with this when DB made his presser.

This is his [censored] up imo.