H_T 3,049 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Tim Harrington (on Jesse Hogan): "We rate him extremely highly. We think he's going to be someone you can really develop a team around and with. That's a big statement about a 17-year-old, but he's impressed us no end." http://www.afl.com.a...85/default.aspx Reads very positive AoB. Could have him as early as tomorrow. An indication that we will still have 4 and 13 for the Draft even if we obtain Dawes brings a smile to the dial. That's what I'm talk'n about.Well done Dees.
DeeZee 7,496 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 This is happening, just a matter of being finalised,probably tomorrow.
jayceebee31 768 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Gold Coast obviously rate Martin more than they do Viney. Maybe we got wind of this, feigned a bit of interest in Martin and told them if they nominated Viney at #2 we'd pass and use #3 for Martin? No - did a blood test on JV and found Red & blue blood .
Jordie_tackles 354 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 IMO Grundy could well be even a more damaging player than Hogan? I think its a 50/50 between the two. Please, No more than P3.... I agree but then i thought who would i want? NicNat or Franklin? Mumford or Cloke? Cox or Riewoldt? Never would i pick the ruckman
H_T 3,049 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 can Anyone confirm which team Hogan supported ? I have read it was melbourne but unsure ?? No, Emma Quayle tweeted / referred to that Jesse Hogan's namesake (a work colleague at the Age) is a Demon fan. Not the Jesse Hogan we are after.
Jordie_tackles 354 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 can Anyone confirm which team Hogan supported ? I have read it was melbourne but unsure ?? Emma Quayle was quoting a friend named Jess Hogan, who was a Melbourne supporter. Saying it was a coincidence, i believe
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 I think pick 3 and pick 45 for Hogan and pick 20 would be fair. Though we do need some late picks to pickup some small forwards... 1. GWS woudln't want pick 45 they're probably done by then. 2. Getting Viney at 26 is one of the "wins" we get from the MD trade.
binman 44,900 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 From the same article: "We're getting good cooperation with Greater Western Sydney so we are very positive we can do something in the near future," Harrington said. The Demons also feel Dawes is up for grabs, although appear unlikely to offer one of their early picks to make the trade happen. "We think we're a good show and we've put a good case forward so far. The player has to buy in as well," Harrington said. "We think we're a good proposition for him. He's indicated positiveness to us." Raises two interesting points: If we get Dawes won't be giving up pick 13. Second point is that the relationship with GWS sounds very professional and productive. Which makes a mockery of the silly predictions that GWS (or for that matter GC) would look to stymie the dees with Viney just out of spite or because Sheedy wants to be mischievous. As i've noted before this is big, big business - too much at stake for games to be played.
Redleg 42,195 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Tim Harrington (on Jesse Hogan): "We rate him extremely highly. We think he's going to be someone you can really develop a team around and with. That's a big statement about a 17-year-old, but he's impressed us no end." http://www.afl.com.a...85/default.aspx Don't think he would be that complimentary unless the deal was done. Otherwise you could see the price rising on the back of his comments. Sounds like a done deal.
Jack7 528 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 I'm tipping Leon Cameron to be a 7 time premiership coach!
Toast 77 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 I thought this was a rather wonderful sentence from Harrington regarding Dawes: "He's indicated positiveness to us."
dee-luded 2,959 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Don't think he would be that complimentary unless the deal was done. Otherwise you could see the price rising on the back of his comments. Sounds like a done deal. Maybe they're (GWS) waiting on other offers to roll in off the truck, & time, before signing off? 'No Big', we have the best fall back option now with Jack at 26,,, we can take a Mid & a Tall, if GWS trade with another.
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 TWR just said can't use pick 4 for MD because it's a compo pick but this would almost certainly have to be wrong. Can't use it for FS but why would there be any restrictions on trades? Particularly since there's been rumours of Dogs using their compo pick (pick 6). Wrong. I'm pretty sure compo picks were used last year for the mini draft.
thaipantsman 180 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 EQ just tweeted he's a Dee's fan as well. Would be great if we could snaffle him too. Doubt if he'd barrack for Dees surely?
The Chazz 4,077 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Pick 3 for MD2 (Hogan) + Pick 20 Pick 4 Wines Pick 13 best outside mid available Pick 20 Dawes + Pick 39 Pick 26 Viney Pick 39 traded for Farren Ray * I don't want Caddy. Has clearly stated (via management) that Melbourne is a Club he doesn't want to go to. * Pick 20 is too much for Dawes, need a sweetener for me. I'm not sure about Hogan, but it looks like I'm going to have to change my mind pretty bloody quick! edit - was just approached by St Kilda and traded Farren Ray for Pick 39.
thaipantsman 180 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 I'm tipping Leon Cameron to be a 7 time premiership coach! and umm! you know ...um um but ahhh.....can he coach? painful to listen
Jerry Lundergard 420 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Second point is that the relationship with GWS sounds very professional and productive. Which makes a mockery of the silly predictions that GWS (or for that matter GC) would look to stymie the dees with Viney just out of spite or because Sheedy wants to be mischievous. As i've noted before this is big, big business - too much at stake for games to be played. It probably just means that Sheedy the snake actually had no dealings in the matter. He aint at Essendon anymore...
daisycutter 30,027 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Doubt if he'd barrack for Dees surely? hey pants, fix-up yer sig buddy
Jordie_tackles 354 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Pick 3 for MD2 (Hogan) + Pick 20 Pick 4 Wines Pick 13 best outside mid available Pick 20 Dawes + Pick 39 Pick 26 Viney Pick 39 traded for Farren Ray * I don't want Caddy. Has clearly stated (via management) that Melbourne is a Club he doesn't want to go to. * Pick 20 is too much for Dawes, need a sweetener for me. I'm not sure about Hogan, but it looks like I'm going to have to change my mind pretty bloody quick! edit - was just approached by St Kilda and traded Farren Ray for Pick 39. Something like this would be full of WIN 2 Forwards and 4 mids perfect edit - although i would not pay pick 39 for Ray
Carrot Top 947 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Something like this would be full of WIN 2 Forwards and 4 mids perfect I'd prefer a swap of perhaps Martin for Dawes rather than using the mythical pick 20.
The Chazz 4,077 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Something like this would be full of WIN 2 Forwards and 4 mids perfect edit - although i would not pay pick 39 for Ray Pick 39 would normally be a 3rd round pick (if you take out compo picks). We might get him with our Pick 45. What's that Josh Toy like? Worth 39 + Petterd or am I dreaming? Don't know much about him that's all.
The Chazz 4,077 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 I'd prefer a swap of perhaps Martin for Dawes rather than using the mythical pick 20. I don't think Collingwood would think they are getting something out of that deal.
Demonsterative 3,021 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Its looks as though the club are in the front running for Pick 2 in the MD. Maybe a player could be in the mix as part of the deal. GWS need a ruckman now it looks as though Giles is leaving. Maybe Martin is taking some time to think about being traded? Pick 3 and Martin for MD pick 2 (Hogan) and pick 20. This seems a fair dea to me.
Carrot Top 947 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 I don't think Collingwood would think they are getting something out of that deal. Then we should pass. Dawes is just an average player with some size. He'll fill a need here for a couple of years but he's not important enough to chase with an end of first round type pick.
Jack7 528 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 I go to all the Suns Home games and i wouldn't touch Toy,he's slow and not a great kick.
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