Let's not pretend we are Hawthorn. We should all know that Viney and either Pearce or Wellingham makes our midfield better.

Q.Why do grown men share a house when both are millionaires?

Sad call Buddy. Never heard of Aaron Hamil? Different code but I'd love to hear you voice these kind of bigoted old man opinions around Ian Roberts.

I'm not sure if it's exactly common knowledge that Sammy is that way inclined.

Either way, it should make difference if Wellingham and Franklin are.

It doesn't reflect on their ability as players.

I think Wellingham would fill a role for us that we sorely need filled.

We don't have many that share the same attributes.

I base my opinion on his stupid metrosexual look off the field more than last nights game.

Last nights game was more of a laugh for me especially when he got booted in the head.

Q.Why do grown men share a house when both are millionaires?

WTF has this got do with whether or not Sharrod Wellingham is an option for possible pick up for the MFC.

So the way he looks off the field is a obviously a really good way of judging someone's football ability and whether he is a good mix for our team. Also he can live with whomever he choose to. I lived with other male friends up until I met my partner and started having children and then moved into my own house, how is this any different. The amount of money he makes is irrelevant, in fact if he wants to remain an Millionaire best thing to do would be save cost of living by sharing a house with someone.

Ok, this thread is getting weird ...

WTF has this got do with whether or not Sharrod Wellingham is an option for possible pick up for the MFC.

So the way he looks off the field is a obviously a really good way of judging someone's football ability and whether he is a good mix for our team. Also he can live with whomever he choose to. I lived with other male friends up until I met my partner and started having children and then moved into my own house, how is this any different. The amount of money he makes is irrelevant, in fact if he wants to remain an Millionaire best thing to do would be save cost of living by sharing a house with someone.

Sad call Buddy. Never heard of Aaron Hamil? Different code but I'd love to hear you voice these kind of bigoted old man opinions around Ian Roberts.

Of course I've heard of Hamil.He played Luke Skywalker in Star Wars. What do you mean by "bigoted old man opinions'?

Why would I call Buddy if I'm sad. Wellingham might answer the phone. What code would I use for Ian Roberts? Non Kapiche.

Let me just get my flannel shirt...

One of the footnotes to an article in the Courier Mail about Grant Thomas' departure from TV

PIES KEEP RIVALS AT BAY

COLLINGWOOD has offered Sharrod Wellingham and Tyson Goldsack contracts as it seeks to retain the list that got it to a preliminary final.

The Travis Cloke situation will take centre stage from today on, but rival clubs will continue to nibble at the edges.

Wellingham must decide whether the deal is satisfactory or ponder the cash and multi-year contract available at Melbourne.

Similarly, Goldsack will scrutinise his contract after establishing himself as defensive forward who can kick goals and stifle attacking half-backs.

Keeping Cloke will see a couple others depart.

on this subject and apologies if it's posted elsewhere (before the trolls come down on me) if it came down to Tippett or Cloke which are both possibilities (though Malthouse is keen on Cloke) who would be best for Melbourne?

This is from Kim Hagdorn whose batting average rivals that of NZ's Chris Martin so FWIW we might find out about Cloke's future very soon - Clock ticks on Cloke at Carlton

POWERHOUSE Collingwood forward Travis Cloke is likely to be put on a tight deadline to declare whether he joins Carlton after the Magpies were bundled out of this year’s premiership hunt by Sydney.

Cloke, 25, is tipped to be given just 72 hours to tell new Blues coach Mick Malthouse whether he will leave Collingwood in what shapes as a highly controversial switch to the Magpies' bitter rival.

Don't get too excited but the article goes on to say we're after Chris Dawes.

I hope someone's keeping a tally of draft stories of 2012 that went belly up!

Keeping Cloke will see a couple others depart.

Yes, that seems likely.

Also, Caddy's preference is to get to Collingwood, but they'll struggle to satisfy Gold Coast with a decent pick. Unless, of course, they trade Wellingham to Melbourne for pick 13 and on-trade that pick to GC.

This is from Kim Hagdorn whose batting average rivals that of NZ's Chris Martin so FWIW we might find out about Cloke's future very soon - Clock ticks on Cloke at Carlton

Don't get too excited but the article goes on to say we're after Chris Dawes.

I hope someone's keeping a tally of draft stories of 2012 that went belly up!

Dawes !!!??

Wellingham might be ok. You must remember Wellingham is next in line to the elites of the competition, Pendels, Swannette and no 17 with the Tatts. Wello's would get the opportunity to be a number one premium mid at Melb.

Yes, that seems likely.

Also, Caddy's preference is to get to Collingwood, but they'll struggle to satisfy Gold Coast with a decent pick. Unless, of course, they trade Wellingham to Melbourne for pick 13 and on-trade that pick to GC.

But who would WE prefer?

Wellingham or Caddy?

I'm not sure myself.

Leaning towards Wellingham.

Wellingham is a panzie.

This is from Kim Hagdorn whose batting average rivals that of NZ's Chris Martin so FWIW we might find out about Cloke's future very soon - Clock ticks on Cloke at Carlton

Don't get too excited but the article goes on to say we're after Chris Dawes.

I hope someone's keeping a tally of draft stories of 2012 that went belly up!

From what I have heard we're talking to every out of contract player.

The problem is who would want to come to our club?

But who would WE prefer?

Wellingham or Caddy?

I'm not sure myself.

Leaning towards Wellingham.

Keen for Wellingham just because he is older and "proven" putting in some performances, has the mongrel in him as well.

Wellingham is a panzie.

Worse player than who on our list at this stage? Besides Jones, Clarke, Frawls, Grimes, Howe and debatable on Sylvia. Who else?

This is from Kim Hagdorn whose batting average rivals that of NZ's Chris Martin so FWIW we might find out about Cloke's future very soon - Clock ticks on Cloke at Carlton

Don't get too excited but the article goes on to say we're after Chris Dawes.

I hope someone's keeping a tally of draft stories of 2012 that went belly up!

and this down furher

Dawes, 24, has been linked with a switch to struggling Melbourne as another forward line option alongside big Mitch Clark when he is back into action next year after missing the second half of this season with a severe foot injury

Offering him $100k more is equal to doing nothing at all. As B-H and old55 have both pointed out already, players aren't going to want to leave successful clubs to come here for only a "bit" more pay, it would need to be something really juicy. If you want to move players, you need to overpay. I think it's that simple.

Not always. Sometimes its a case of opportunity, Wellingham would likely be a key midfielder for us. He might want to play ,ore time in the middle rather than be a second string to Swan, Beans, Pendlebury etc. You just don't know.....

Bate was looking at leaving last year because of opportunity. Will probably go this year because it didn't really happen for him...

Wellingham is a panzie.

For once we agree on something.

I reckon he'll stay at Collingwood but would be happy to see him in a Dees guernsey.

For once we agree on something.

That's probably a good hint you should question where you stand.

I reckon he'll stay at Collingwood but would be happy to see him in a Dees guernsey.

That's probably a good hint you should question where you stand.

I did-and I still agree with Tona on this guy.

It's the fringe that worries me-the stupidity of trying to look like Justin Beiber when you are 23 didn't work for Bennell either.

I did-and I still agree with Tona on this guy.

It's the fringe that worries me-the stupidity of trying to look like Justin Beiber when you are 23 didn't work for Bennell either.

Clearly Fashion sense and haircut are the sole determining factors in whether or not you can be a good AFL footballer. Dermie, Platten, Tex Walker, Kouta ...

Clearly Fashion sense and haircut are the sole determining factors in whether or not you can be a good AFL footballer. Dermie, Platten, Tex Walker, Kouta.......

Bennell ,Wellingham, Southern.

Martin/pick 13 for Dawes/wellingham?