Straight trade - Jurrah for Jacobs

[Guest Rassilon]

Now back to the topic. Hope Liam gets a chance to play AFL again, Port sounds like the club that may suit him the best with his current situation. Would be great if we could arrange a trade for us and for Liam.

[rpfc 28,494]

Only one club is willing to take him and there is a draft waiting there for them to take him, if indeed they wish to.

There will be no trade and you are wasting internet.

We should have a crazy meter on this site that leads to bannings - you would run your quota quickly.

[Brian Wilson 331]

There will be no trade and you are wasting internet.

The internet is a finite resource now?

[thaipantsman 180]

I'd prefer a David Rodan and Danyle Pearce 2 for 1 package. By the way, we should treat Jurrah with more respect.

Hi Ben.

Definitely agreed!! This forum hints at serious racist issues to be dealt with. If Jurrah was white no one would give a stuff.

[Guest Rassilon]

The internet is a finite resource now?

He just lives in the past gets all his information from the newspapers and regurgitates as 'things he has heard". Not everything makes the newspapers, some of us online share a few thoughts now and again on choosen topics - not nearly every bloody thread on the site like his type - quite amusing really.

At the end of the day I would just like to see the Dees assist Liam as much as they can - its up to Port what they want to do. But that should not stop us offering a quality AFL standard player for a quality young player.

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[Wiseblood 24,637]

Only one club is willing to take him and there is a draft waiting there for them to take him, if indeed they wish to.

There will be no trade and you are wasting internet.

We should have a crazy meter on this site that leads to bannings - you would run your quota quickly.

I can't believe it reached 80 posts to be honest.

[jnrmac 20,100]

81 - its pathetic.

Jurrah for Jacobs?? F me there are some stupid things written here.

[Guest Rassilon]

81 - its pathetic.

Jurrah for Jacobs?? F me there are some stupid things written here.

What would you offer then? If you cant come up with a better alternative - dont read the thread - simple really. (82 and counting )

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[felixdacat 459]

84 Actually and

First we put the offer to Jacobs. (full-stop) If he agrees to come back to Victoria for 3-4 years on reasonable dollars say $300-400K - we have a deal.

Then we put the offer to Port - if Port dont accept it thats their problem not ours. We take Jacobs in the pre-season - no big deal to us. We have our man.

How is the above scenario equate a to Straight Trade - Jacobs for Jurrah

Now back to the topic. Hope Liam gets a chance to play AFL again, Port sounds like the club that may suit him the best with his current situation. Would be great if we could arrange a trade for us and for Liam.

I hope he plays again also but I doubt Liam will be playing for any AFL side next year even if he wins his court case. He has other priorities he will need to deal with before he can concentrate on Football. I hope when he does get it sorted he comes back to Melbourne.

[beelzebub 23,380]

mods

as its nigh on impossible to actually trade Jurrah.

canwe bring this farce to its inevitable end

pls

[Guest Rassilon]

How is the above scenario equate a to Straight Trade - Jacobs for Jurrah

Simple next year on our list we have Jacobs - they have Jurrah. Thats a straight trade. We offer up Liam if they dont take it - fine we will get Jacobs anyway assuming we put the right deal to him and he accepts. We offer Jacobs what Liam was getting paid maybe plus some, all Ive heard all year is we have a war chest and a ton of salary cap room. So spend it on a 20YO top quality ex top 20 draft pick - oh did I mention he is Victorian and wants to come home.

What choice have Port got? No we wont accept the trade, we will send him to the PSD - OK we say - you do that. We secure our man - there man is still unsigned. That would then become there problem. We have done the right thing by Liam assist him to play AFL football and PORT said NO.

Edited September 13, 2012 by Rassilon

[old55 23,613]

Jurrah only has trade value if other clubs will take him and they won't. Port can take Jurrah with pick 100 in the Rookie draft. We'd have to use pick 3 in the PSD to take Jacobs. If we want a trade we'll have to offer something more equitable - otherwise they'll just say - go ahead draft him.

[King Kunta 97]

Simple next year on our list we have Jacobs - they have Jurrah. Thats a straight trade. We offer up Liam if they dont take it - fine we will get Jacobs anyway assuming we put the right deal to him and he accepts. We offer Jacobs what Liam was getting paid maybe plus some, all Ive heard all year is we have a war chest and a ton of salary cap room. So spend it on a 20YO top quality ex top 20 draft pick - oh did I mention he is Victorian and wants to come home.

What choice have Port got? No we wont accept the trade, we will send him to the PSD - OK we say - you do that. We secure our man - there man is still unsigned. That would then become there problem. We have done the right thing by Liam assist him to play AFL football and PORT said NO.

There are plenty of other clubs vying for Ben's services and thus if Melbourne presents Port with a ridiculous trade such as what you're suggesting they will just move onto the next Victorian club's proposal. So they have plenty of choices because multiple clubs are seeking his services as opposed to Jurrah. BJ isn't a free agent so you can't simply put money before him to lure him to the Dees; you have to be able to work out a trade with Port Adelaide rather than the player himself.

[Guest Rassilon]

There are plenty of other clubs vying for Ben's services and thus if Melbourne presents Port with a ridiculous trade such as what you're suggesting they will just move onto the next Victorian club's proposal. So they have plenty of choices because multiple clubs are seeking his services as opposed to Jurrah. BJ isn't a free agent so you can't simply put money before him to lure him to the Dees; you have to be able to work out a trade with Port Adelaide rather than the player himself.

Rubbish the player decides he has no contract with PORT - hence why you first get agreement out of him. 4 Years @ 400K or something like that bloody good deal for him. His manger says sure go and do a deal with Port. Melbourne come back and say Port wont agree. OK we go preseason draft then.

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[Guest Rassilon]

Jurrah only has trade value if other clubs will take him and they won't. Port can take Jurrah with pick 100 in the Rookie draft. We'd have to use pick 3 in the PSD to take Jacobs. If we want a trade we'll have to offer something more equitable - otherwise they'll just say - go ahead draft him.

Pick 3 in the PSD draft for a 20YO ex-top 20 pick that wants to return home to Victoria is CHEAP, very cheap.

If Port dont want Jurrah - fine but we can look Liam in the face and say we tried to get you on Ports primary list, Port said No.

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[old55 23,613]

Pick 3 in the PSD draft for a 20YO ex-top 20 pick that wants to return home to Victoria is CHEAP, very cheap.

If Port dont want Jurrah - fine but we can look Liam in the face and say we tried to get you on Ports primary list, Port said No.

Yes it is a good deal - I agree with you - try to sell the club to Jacobs and try to do a proper deal with Port and if not take him in the PSD. Jurrah is a non-factor.

[Guest Rassilon]

Yes it is a good deal - I agree with you - try to sell the club to Jacobs and try to do a proper deal with Port and if not take him in the PSD. Jurrah is a non-factor.

PS this above line will disappear in 5 minutes. Use your mod powers to see what I wrote if you can.

Edited September 13, 2012 by Rassilon

[King Kunta 97]

Rubbish the player decides he has no contract with PORT - hence why you first get agreement out of him. 4 Years @ 400K or something like that bloody good deal for him. His manger says sure go and do a deal with Port. Melbourne come back and say Port wont agree. OK we go preseason draft then.

It's naive to think that Jacobs would be willing to only go to Melbourne no matter how much money is thrown at him. He wants to come home first and foremost therefor Port will take the best offer put before them hopefully that is the Dees but Jurrah won't get it done.

[Guest Rassilon]

It's naive to think that Jacobs would be willing to only go to Melbourne no matter how much money is thrown at him. He wants to come home first and foremost therefor Port will take the best offer put before them hopefully that is the Dees but Jurrah won't get it done.

Its naive to think that Jacobs manger wont attempt to get him the best deal he can. (full-stop) Our job is to get the best deal on the table and offer him a role he wants to play. We are probably the closest team in the league for him to be a walk up start - his manger might like that he might like that. Certainty is always good in football negotiations - think Mitch Clark.

Our competitors may could/not offer him certainty. They may be forced to pay too high a price a catch 22 for them.

Edited September 13, 2012 by Rassilon

[King Kunta 97]

Its naive to think that Jacobs manger wont attempt to get him the best deal he can. (full-stop) Our job is to get the best deal on the table and offer him a role he wants to play. We are probably the closest team in the league for him to be a walk up start - his manger might like that he might like that. Certainty is always good in football negotiations - think Mitch Clark.

Our competitors may could/not offer him certainty. They may be forced to pay too high a price a catch 22 for them.

Yes I'm not disputing that but even if Jacobs decides Melbourne's his first preference, our chances of bringing him to Melbourne are only as strong as the offer we provide Port Adelaide.

[old55 23,613]

PS this above line will disappear in 5 minutes. Use your mod powers to see what I wrote if you can.

Nope - but you can PM me.

[Guest Rassilon]

Yes I'm not disputing that but even if Jacobs decides Melbourne's his first preference, our chances of bringing him to Melbourne are only as strong as the offer we provide Port Adelaide.

No we are only as strong as we make the offer to Jacobs. If Port have no contract with him we can low ball them.

Edited September 13, 2012 by Rassilon

[Hero1 74]

Nobody would give one cent for Jurrah.

[Brian Wilson 331]

I have a new title for this thread:

Jacobs.

[Guest Rassilon]

Nobody would give one cent for Jurrah.

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