Chris Judd's Night of Reckoning - Guilty (4 weeks)

[beelzebub 23,184]

With any luck hell be rubbed out for the ret of this year and one game next year. He got away with this lurk once before , hopefully karma kicks in

[Whispering_Jack 29,136]

I wonder if the tribunal's deliberations are going to be as brief as they were the night they stuck it up Jack Trengove.

[monoccular 17,305]

I wonder if the tribunal's deliberations are going to be as brief as they were the night they stuck it up Jack Trengove.

That was running through my mind to - what was it? 27 seconds or was that the appeal?

[mrtwister 652]

Tribunal chairman to jury: Judd's priors to be disregarded in assessment of this case

WTF?

[monoccular 17,305]

Tribunal chairman to jury: Judd's priors to be disregarded in assessment of this case

WTF?

Yeah -- WTF. Surely that means in relation to guilty vs not, and not related to the penalty.

[jnrmac 19,890]

Judd has said he couldn't plead guilty to an intentional misconduct charge

Who gives a fat rat's clacker what Judd will plead guilty to?????

Why is this even relevant????

The evidence is there, the tribunal has been told to assess it, So do your bloody job and knock him out for 6 weeks.

[mrtwister 652]

Gleeson: Tribunal has total discretion re: penalty. Suggests appropriate sanction 425-550 demerit points, i.e. 4-5 weeks, as a base level before pleas etc considered

[Ouch! 2,205]

before pleas?? the guy has also said he doesnt think he is guilty.... now that the penalty has occurred why should he get a plea chance as well? So.... does the punishment of 425-550 then include the 30% loading he also has?

[mrtwister 652]

before pleas?? the guy has also said he doesnt think he is guilty.... now that the penalty has occurred why should he get a plea chance as well? So.... does the punishment of 425-550 then include the 30% loading he also has?

Apparently that is MRP based, not tribunal.

[Ouch! 2,205]

Apparently that is MRP based, not tribunal.

then something seems wrong with that... especially when the tribunal chairman also told them (the jury) to not consider prior indiscretions.... thats not right IMO

Edited July 17, 2012 by Oucher

[Range Rover 1,935]

Disgusting act to be found guilty of. Really the guy should be ashamed of himself yet has the temerity to lie and cry foul.

I don't care how good he is I now have no respect for this [censored].

[mrtwister 652]

Gleeson for AFL has clarified that Judd's preparedness to plead to a lesser charge should not earn him a discount but his show of remorse could

[Ouch! 2,205]

Disgusting act to be found guilty of. Really the guy should be ashamed of himself yet has the temerity to lie and cry foul.

I don't care how good he is I now have no respect for this [censored].

Have to agree... also loved how Swallow went hard to assist Adams like he did. Obviously knew something wasn't right.

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Gleeson for AFL has clarified that Judd's preparedness to plead to a lesser charge should not earn him a discount but his show of remorse could

Fat chance of him showing remorse....

[mrtwister 652]

Here you go.

Gleeson: Tribunal should not mechanically apply Judd's 30 per cent loading for a bad record. But should not be treated the same as a player with no loading. Should increased 4-5 games buy about 30 per cent

[Ouch! 2,205]

Here you go.

Gleeson: Tribunal should not mechanically apply Judd's 30 per cent loading for a bad record. But should not be treated the same as a player with no loading. Should increased 4-5 games buy about 30 per cent

.... isn't that the same thing? applying a loading of 30%.... and increasing the penalty by 30%??

Edited July 17, 2012 by Oucher

[mrtwister 652]

Wilson: fine line between AFL version of events and Judd's, so his plea to lesser offence should be taken into account

[mrtwister 652]

Straw clutching?

Wilson: there is no base sanction for the offence.Appealing to tribunal jury members as past players who would understand the on-field pressures players are under

and

Wilson: appropriate base penalty 2-3 games, take into account 30% loading BUT also fact Judd did not have info about particulars of AFL charge until 4pm today

[Range Rover 1,935]

Wilson: fine line between AFL version of events and Judd's, so his plea to lesser offence should be taken into account

Thanks Mrtiwster for the updates. Fascinating stuff.

Watch the Judd PR spin machine go into damage mode once this is settled.

[mrtwister 652]

Chairman: we're not proceeding under MRP loading system. Entitled to consider his past offences as an aggravating factor

[mrtwister 652]

4 weeks

Will miss Bulldogs, Tigers, Swans and Lions

[Ouch! 2,205]

4 weeks

Lucky I reckon with that.... now the issue is.... if they appeal, does that really show remorse?

[picket fence 16,631]

Very lucky, by my reckoning he was looking at 6 and even that is lenient!!

[Range Rover 1,935]

Can it be increased if he conducts a failed appeal? Hope so.

[Mgdee 319]

Most you could expect with Judd.

Anyone else 6 weeks min..