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An alarming stat for us when I remember Barrassi's taunt of a young Gerard Healy v Swans when was it 1983 ?? regarding a quote of " you give me possesions"

The reason I bring this up is each game so far has revealed an alarming trend of the opposition dominating the top 10 posessions getters.

so much in fact I realised we are lucky to occupy 1 maybe 2 of the top 10 possesion getters each game. This has been consistent since round 1.

My question is, how the f$ck can we win with this stat?

Anyway, I thought we could improve tonight but loh and behold Hawthorn had the top 11, yes I1 [censored] you not 11 out of the top 11 possesion getters on the ground before our first Jones with 21 possessions.

I am beginning to wonder what the f$ck is going on??!?!?!

Of course uncontested possesions is the key here for those who watch these games, but geez, that is truelly depressing.

I don't know what to say.

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I don't know what to say.

YOU GIVE ME POSSESSIONS AND I'LL SHUT UP !

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It's the style we play - when it works, it is very efficient in terms of number of possessions.

Direct, no mucking around with it.

We also create a lot of stoppages, with "real" possessions hard to come by (i.e. proper handballs or kicks that will get you a disposal stat).

There are a lot of taps, knock ons, toe pokes, letting the ball dribble out of your hands rather than an effective handball.

To my knowledge none of these garner a stat.

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There are a lot of taps, knock ons, toe pokes, letting the ball dribble out of your hands rather than an effective handball.

To my knowledge none of these garner a stat.

Come on man .... Talk about clutching at straws.

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Come on man .... Talk about clutching at straws.

I'm serious.

You honestly don't think our game style is a low-possession one?

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Evidently it is. Pretty sure Neeld explicitly told Sylvia, Petterd, Bennell, Davey, Trengove etc there's no point racking up more than 5-10 possessions that's not how we want to play.

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Its ridiculous...

Can someone explain how MAGNER, a man who has played all of 5 games with our club, be a leading possession getter consistently every week???

Jones used to be a bonafide scrum ball hack, and now he is our best on field?!?

Sylvia - sure, needs some time back, but seriously...bottom 4 possn getters?

WTF IS GOING ON?!??????

Why do we just switch off for entire quarters??? Clark boots 3, that's enough..we'll declare now...

Same with last quarter v Saints...in the name of Jim, how do you register ZERO for an entire quarter???

Surely game plans don't impact that much on individual talent! Trengove, Grimes, Sylvia, Moloney, Howe, even Davey are ALL better players than most of Carlton's midfield... Karmichael Hunt has a better possn average than half our team... this is illogical!

PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!

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Evidently it is. Pretty sure Neeld explicitly told Sylvia, Petterd, Bennell, Davey, Trengove etc there's no point racking up more than 5-10 possessions that's not how we want to play.

I believe he specifically said to Jamie and Ricky, "I don't want youse to go mad fellas, 4 touches will be plenty". They didn't disappoint.

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1 player with over 20 possessions last night - Jones with 21.

11 Hawthorn players had more possessions than our top possession getter. That's half their team.

I'm at a total loss. I just don't know what will be the outcome for this great Club, my Club. I'm not confident.

An interesting stat they mentioned on the telecast was that for the whole season, we had been in front for just 10% of the season.

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It's neelds moronic game plan. We consistently kick the ball to a pack and can't win the ball win it fls to the ground.

We might as well be handing the ball back to the opposition.

How many times did we kick the ball out after a minor score only to watch the it return to the back 50 immediately.

How hard is it to find a loose man and kick it the them. Hawthorn were doing it all game

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Its ridiculous...

Can someone explain how MAGNER, a man who has played all of 5 games with our club, be a leading possession getter consistently every week???

Jones used to be a bonafide scrum ball hack, and now he is our best on field?!?

Sylvia - sure, needs some time back, but seriously...bottom 4 possn getters?

WTF IS GOING ON?!??????

Why do we just switch off for entire quarters??? Clark boots 3, that's enough..we'll declare now...

Same with last quarter v Saints...in the name of Jim, how do you register ZERO for an entire quarter???

Surely game plans don't impact that much on individual talent! Trengove, Grimes, Sylvia, Moloney, Howe, even Davey are ALL better players than most of Carlton's midfield... Karmichael Hunt has a better possn average than half our team... this is illogical!

PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!

The underperforming boys club havent told him yet "Thats how we do it at Melbourne" give it time and he will be influenced back to the pack

The sooner we clear the dregs from the team and replace them with people who want to play the sooner we will be a team again. Honestly it looks like its too late for many on the list

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It's neelds moronic game plan. We consistently kick the ball to a pack and can't win the ball win it fls to the ground.

We might as well be handing the ball back to the opposition.

Correct. If we're going to kick it to a contest, at least have some players to surround it so when it hits the ground, we can clear it (or at least touch the f-ing thing)

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It's neelds moronic game plan. We consistently kick the ball to a pack and can't win the ball win it fls to the ground.

We might as well be handing the ball back to the opposition.

How many times did we kick the ball out after a minor score only to watch the it return to the back 50 immediately.

How hard is it to find a loose man and kick it the them. Hawthorn were doing it all game

And what is worse is that we have not changed our attacking style all season – an it took only Brisbane 10 minutes to work it out on round 1. This is perhaps the biggest blight on Neeld – we have gone from being one of the most attacking teams to being impotent. I want to see Neeld succeed but he must alter the attacking angle of the game plan soon.

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Neeld's vision is thus far a half baked cake- and still needs time in the oven

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