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Why would you want to feed him carbs to put on size

Because you need energy to build muscle, not just protein. That's why you can't just sit on your arse eating cans of tuna in order to build muscle.

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Robert Murphy is not a big bloke, Nat Fyfe isnt either, Cam Bruce isnt

If Cale wants to take the next step he can. His size isnt an excuse IMO

dale thomas isn't big but goes hard at the ball.

yuk, that left a horrible taste in my mouth

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Cale will never be a big footballer, neither was R Flower (and no i am not comparing them!) I am confident Neeld, Craig and Misson will turn Cale Morton into the same pick 4 that our recruiters saw.

Gysberts, McKenzie, Bennell, Blease, Morton.

Can we afford to have so many skinny players in the team?

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Gysberts, McKenzie, Bennell, Blease, Morton.

Can we afford to have so many skinny players in the team?

Who can say right now, but like me Cale could eat a house and still be skinny...he is what he is..I am still the same weight i was when i left school..it happens.

His body shape aint going to change, but his endurance and endeavour just might with the right preseason.

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I spoke to him at the B & F for a while and was surprised that up close he is bigger in the arms and upper body than you would think, seeing him from a distance. Reminds me a bit of Michael Tuck and he lasted for a few games with a similiar sized body.

HaHaHa, a bit of difference in quality... I think Tucky was probably playing when he was 16 or 17.

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Mr. & Mrs. Scully.

But that would involve him moving to Rooty Hill ... maybe therefore a transfer to GW$ ... and as an ex first round pick, a compensation selection ... mmmmmmmmm. ????????

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A mate of mine knows Cales new personal trainer. Cale approached him (late last season or straight after) to do some extra curricular activities to help him bulk up. And from what Im told hes really working him hard.


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The problem he has (my guess as a personal trainer) is he has a 'greyhound' metabolism... and is playing an elite sport that needs a lots of fuel/energy to play.

Getting a personal trainer to do 'extra' stuff isn't always the best thing either... despite what most people may think. A bloke like him has an incredibly fast metabolism, and any excessive training would only burn calories that could be utilized by the body to produce more muscle. The key is to find a balance between conserving energy and doing minimal training... Or training too much and burning much needed energy.

The problem he also has is that the energy he needs to build muscle, is now being used to fuel the super intense pre-season training sessions that the boys are being put through.

This extra size is a LONNNNNG TERM process for him, and he will always be a skinny player I think. Yeah, he could sit on his arse and conserve energy to build muscle, but then he loses his aerobic fitness... or he runs like a mad-man to build his aerobic fitness, but then has trouble gaining mass.

Tricky balancing act to build both aerobic capacity and lean muscle mass at the same time.

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Gysberts, McKenzie, Bennell, Blease, Morton.

Can we afford to have so many skinny players in the team?

For a start, I can quite easily see McKenzie being in our starting 18, and would like to think Blease will play seniors round 1. My jury has always been out in regards to Gysberts, and that leaves Bennell and Morton, who I think have the ability to play seniors. So, out of your list, there's absolutely no reason why we can't have at least 4 of those players in the team.

I'm going to ask a very simple question that I don't htink has been asked on this thread yet - who, that has been to training, can tell us if Morton looks bigger? Fcuk looking at photos from Twitter, I want to hear from people who have seen him in the flesh recently. Anyone else is just guessing and have NFI. And, while that person who is "qualified" to comment, how is Watts looking? I watched the Clark/Stynes jumper prentation footage from Fox Sports, and Watts was in the background - he looked like he had bulked up further.

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And why would you consider Bennell Ave 6 touches a game as an outside runner???

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And why would you consider Bennell Ave 6 touches a game as an outside runner???

I think he has a role that he can play in the team. Not knowing what line he is training with, but I can quite easily see him as the small forward that we need, or as a tagger, or even as a back-pocket player. He has shown he can play each of those roles, and I'm expecting him to be one of the biggest improvers in 2012.

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For a start, I can quite easily see McKenzie being in our starting 18, and would like to think Blease will play seniors round 1. My jury has always been out in regards to Gysberts, and that leaves Bennell and Morton, who I think have the ability to play seniors. So, out of your list, there's absolutely no reason why we can't have at least 4 of those players in the team.

I'm going to ask a very simple question that I don't htink has been asked on this thread yet - who, that has been to training, can tell us if Morton looks bigger? Fcuk looking at photos from Twitter, I want to hear from people who have seen him in the flesh recently. Anyone else is just guessing and have NFI. And, while that person who is "qualified" to comment, how is Watts looking? I watched the Clark/Stynes jumper prentation footage from Fox Sports, and Watts was in the background - he looked like he had bulked up further.

I went to training 2 weeks ago and Morton certainly doesn't look any bigger whatsoever. If anyone else thinks otherwise they are delirious

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I agree - putting on muscle is only part of the solution: is there any 'drill' or 'exercise' or anything else for that matter that can instill an absolute desire into any player to get into a tight pack of big angry players and just get the ball, and do something useful with it?

To me it must be an innate quality, one which I have not seen even a glimmer of in Cale.

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I think he has a role that he can play in the team. Not knowing what line he is training with, but I can quite easily see him as the small forward that we need, or as a tagger, or even as a back-pocket player. He has shown he can play each of those roles, and I'm expecting him to be one of the biggest improvers in 2012.

I hope you are right Last chance for me

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I went to training 2 weeks ago and Morton certainly doesn't look any bigger whatsoever. If anyone else thinks otherwise they are delirious

that was my observation also

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Gysberts, McKenzie, Bennell, Blease, Morton.

Can we afford to have so many skinny players in the team?

You can get away with being skinny if you have a crack.

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All due respect to Michael Tuck and our Robbie ... but their football was of a different era. Can anyone name a single Collingwood, Geelong or Hawthorn starting 22 player with legs and arms that skinny? 2012 will be Cale's fifth season of AFL football and he still looks like a stiff breeze would blow him over.

It's disappointing but the poor bloke just doesn't appear to have the required somatotype. He looks like a middle distance runner, not a footballer.

Their's was much more of a big bodied contested football era unlike now when it is more keepings off. So not sure of your point. Tuck was strong as an ox even though he had a slight type body. No reason Cale can't be the same. Issue will be whether he is prepared to put his body on the line and develop the Mongrel that has been missing so far.


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Their's was much more of a big bodied contested football era unlike now when it is more keepings off. So not sure of your point. Tuck was strong as an ox even though he had a slight type body. No reason Cale can't be the same. Issue will be whether he is prepared to put his body on the line and develop the Mongrel that has been missing so far.

Have a look at some reruns of 80's and 90's footy on Youtube and compare it with the speed and intensity of 2011 football. The shirtfront may be gone but the premium on space and pressuring tactics all over the field means the need to put your body on the line is ever present. It matters not whether you have or don't have the ball. Unless you are lightning quick, copping that kind of punishment in close requires a certain amount of muscular padding.

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I think the skinny kid needs a foster home. Someone who will feed him lots of carbs. 24/7

Do you know any family that can accomodate.

No need. if you are good enough you will make it. Robbie Flower was like a stick throughout his whole career. NO, I am not comparing him with Cale. Just hope young Morton can show his true ability next season.

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.........He has shown he can play each of those roles........

Really? When ?

Must have missed those / that game.

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All due respect to Michael Tuck and our Robbie ... but their football was of a different era. Can anyone name a single Collingwood, Geelong or Hawthorn starting 22 player with legs and arms that skinny? 2012 will be Cale's fifth season of AFL football and he still looks like a stiff breeze would blow him over.

It's disappointing but the poor bloke just doesn't appear to have the required somatotype. He looks like a middle distance runner, not a footballer.

Dermot Brereton. And on a 'lighter' note, Ian Cooper.

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