TWR stating neither team will budge and declared no deal will be done

C'mon Dees, get this one done for Bater. We've flexed our muscles quite well over the past few days, we have arrived, let's be the good cop too!

C'mon Dees, get this one done for Bater. We've flexed our muscles quite well over the past few days, we have arrived, let's be the good cop too!

Agree I'd be disappointed if we didn't do the right thing by the Master, especially considering we'd be getting pick 39 which I reckon is overs anyway.

Agree I'd be disappointed if we didn't do the right thing by the Master, especially considering we'd be getting pick 39 which I reckon is overs anyway.

As I said earlier (replying to B59's comments about Neeld not seeing him as a must-keep), if we are not willing to take up the Pick 39 (which I agree, seems terrible overs to me), then our coach must see a role for the Master. Good luck to Matty if that's the case.

We've lost $cully & Warnock & gained Clark have to delist at least 2 more.

Maric and Juice likely to be those 2.

But would think we will still trade Bate...might get convoluted though

Juice is on the rookie list. Maybe the Spencil or Wonna to the rookie list.

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Might just be playing hardball. Time's a running out though. Pressure cooker stuff ( wonderful )

I dont know how we can be asking for pick 17 for Bate...unless we think they want him that much??

In a week where the decision-makers have shown themselves to be nigh-on geniuses, this strikes me as silly stubborness.

Just get it done.

Any chance bate is tied up somehow in our efforts to secure Caddy?

Any chance bate is tied up somehow in our efforts to secure Caddy?

Surely not. Red-haired, fair skin, covered in freckles, sending him to the Gold Coast? Surely we wouldn't be that cruel!

Bater a.k.a the QueenMary shall remained docked at Casey Fields ...

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Well, Bate stays.

To be honest, I don't mind having him and Maric around for another year. If only to see what a new coach can get out of them.

Bate stays at Melbourne, no harm there we would have got nothing for pick 39 so they obviously see value in him and none in the pick.

All he has to do now is show he can play.

Bater a.k.a the QueenMary shall remained docked at Casey Fields ...

We are going to have a very unhappy boy on our hands and methinks he will stick it up us if he gets the chance. Not sure why 39 wasn't accepted. Hope he can improve and mend bridges.

Well, Bate stays. To be honest, I don't mind having him and Maric around for another year. If only to see what a new coach can get out of them.

Maric will be delisted. Have to make room.

I don't really know why we played hardball with Bate. With Clark on board he is needed even less, and will struggle to get a game moreso than he did last year. Unless of course Neeld has a plan in mind for him.

Watch him get delisted for nothing next year. Shame really.

Pick 39 would mean our ND picks this year would be 36, 39 & 52. Now they'll have to go into the 70's. Ew!

Have to delist at least one more player with $cully and Warnock leaving and Clark coming in.

I don't really know why we played hardball with Bate. With Clark on board he is needed even less, and will struggle to get a game moreso than he did last year. Unless of course Neeld has a plan in mind for him.

Watch him get delisted for nothing next year. Shame really.

Pick 39 would mean our ND picks this year would be 36, 39 & 52. Now they'll have to go into the 70's. Ew!

James Hird was drafted at no.79 ... so there's always hope

This draft picks lower thatn 30 will be a lottery anyway.

I think our guys would have said that unless its a pick above 30 forget it and I am sure bater will get a new role.

He may look back on this and say he is glad it didn't get done.

In his hands now.

James Hird was drafted at no.79 ... so there's always hope

...in exceptional circumstances that no longer exist. If the current rules existed back then as they do now, James Hird would've been taken in the top 5, two years later.

Bate played his best footy on the wing and has mostly been played out of position in the last 4 years - Neeld want's to keep him so let's give him a go hey !

You have to back the coach in here, and at the end of it all, Bate is contracted, and if the club decides it wants to work with him for another year under a new coaching regime / system, then so be it.

Unless the Dogs were prepared to pay overs, and it was a deal too good to say no to, then they are within their rights to do so.

Maybe Neeld thought players were getting games ahead of Bate when they shouldn't have been, or Bate wasn't being used in the right manner, who knows.

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Tim Harrington just said on SEN that when he spoke to Matty he told him if he couldnt do a trade for him then he will be back at the club for pre season training. Tim said Mark had plans for him. I hope he does because Bate is to good a player to be in Casey.

Im sorry I think he is a good player and with his booming left kicks we need him. Maybe a new coach will help him. Lets remember no one really had a good season htis year.

Neeld must be going to give Bate an opportunity in a new role. Maybe Collingwood/he rated Bate from a distance. He's a big body and a line-breaking kick. He's one-sided but I don't think I've ever seen Ben Johnson kick on his right either. We've invested heavily in a long target, maybe Bate is part on the plan to go long.