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Wish we could get Robbie Flower in to mentor this guy. Being a rake is obviously playing on his confidence and he's struggling with stuff that came naturally when he was still in the juniors.

If he's gonna stay as skinny as he is then he's gotta take it on the chin and learn from someone who was an elite player because of it, or maybe took it on as an asset. Has all the talent to come good just needs a decent role model who can convince him to back himself and go hard at the footy.

Good positive suggestion.

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Wish we could get Robbie Flower in to mentor this guy. Being a rake is obviously playing on his confidence and he's struggling with stuff that came naturally when he was still in the juniors.

If he's gonna stay as skinny as he is then he's gotta take it on the chin and learn from someone who was an elite player because of it, or maybe took it on as an asset. Has all the talent to come good just needs a decent role model who can convince him to back himself and go hard at the footy.

Loving your posts, Yoss. Lots of interesting comments.

Posted

Cale's got plenty of fellow travelers in our team at the moment. If they're going to turn it around it'll come from Cale and the rest really putting in. I'd love to see it.

Posted (edited)

Me thinks if Morton is ever going to be hard at the footy, he'll do it under neeld. If not, you'd have to say his days at Melbourne are over.

aha... masturliking

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At risk of boring you all to tears, at 191cm and 78kg he is still too small and too weak to be a better than average footballer.

I know this has been said ad nauseum, but the fact no one at the club has managed to get the kid to put on size and strength is amateurish, not to mention embarrassing. This is a professional sports club and strength and conditioning should be it's bread and butter. You don't need Mission nor the Lexus Centre to get strong. You don't even need to be a gifted athlete. This is a reflects on the club more than young Cale.

If anyone tells me James Hird was a rake and Cale needs to plays like Jimmy; JH was two centermetres shorter and 11kg heavier. If anyone tell me strength and size will compromise endurance, they need to do some (intelligent) reading.

You can talk about culture, skills, potential, recruitment, development, the press and a whole lot of other [censored] that can't be quantified let alone understood, but increase Cale's squat by 50 kg, deadlift by 50kg and bench by 20kg (assuming he lifts at all) and he will be improve his game significantly.

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At risk of boring you all to tears, at 191cm and 78kg he is still too small and too weak to be a better than average footballer.

You succeeded and you are patently wrong.

BTW, the Club site has him listed as 192cm and 87 kgs.

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Wats Kate Moss doing this weekend perhaps could use her on HBF.

God help anyone that says there something left in this kid I'm over it with him. Mismanaged my ass. If he couldn't walk into a club and learn the fundamentals of putting your head over the ball and earning a freakin kick, then I'm sorry, wasted talent or not, even if Dirty Harry put a gun to his head now and said where hve you been for the last 3 yrs his response would probably be,,, 'I just gots to know' how many did you have left b4 you were to trade me. He has to go form or not by EOY

Posted

I'll give up on Cale only when he's officially De-listed.

My body type is the same as Cale s and the players I'd be looking to for inspiration would be Michael Tuck and Dustin Fletcher, these are the guys I see as having the same frame as Cale. If he can reach his footy potential he has the body to allow him to play well into his late 30s.

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Lets ensure we get the facts right people.

  • Morton has put on 12 kilos since drafted.
  • Morton served a strong apprenticeship of games in his first two years and then after strong pre-seasons in the last 2 got injured right at the commencement of preseason games ruining any momentum.
  • Morton won the Larke medal at the under 18 championships playing off a half back flank yet this will be the first year he has trained to play in our defence.

Morton does not need to become a dogged inside player but he does need to go when its his turn. I would not be surprised if he improves markedly under the new regime but will need time to find his feet. Best of luck today Cale and for the rest of the year I hope this season has you having alot of people eating humble pie.

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I'll give up on Cale only when he's officially De-listed.

My body type is the same as Cale s and the players I'd be looking to for inspiration would be Michael Tuck and Dustin Fletcher, these are the guys I see as having the same frame as Cale. If he can reach his footy potential he has the body to allow him to play well into his late 30s.

Tuck and Fletcher never hesitated to get in and put their head over the ball!

Cale has been offered another opportunity - he had better take it and do the heard work.

He will, rightly, be under intense scrutiny today and must deliver something special!

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Tuck and Fletcher never hesitated to get in and put their head over the ball!

Cale has been offered another opportunity - he had better take it and do the heard work.

He will, rightly, be under intense scrutiny today and must deliver something special!

Yes, for sure, he has to have that Tuck & Fletcher courage.

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You succeeded and you are patently wrong.

BTW, the Club site has him listed as 192cm and 87 kgs.

There is no way Morton is 87 kgs. I have stood next to him and I am 90kgs. I reckon he would be 82-83 kgs at best.

BTW It wouldn't be the first time that a club has put misinformation on its player profiles.

Big Red F

Lets ensure we get the facts right people.
  • Morton has put on 12 kilos since drafted.
  • Morton served a strong apprenticeship of games in his first two years and then after strong pre-seasons in the last 2 got injured right at the commencement of preseason games ruining any momentum.
  • Morton won the Larke medal at the under 18 championships playing off a half back flank yet this will be the first year he has trained to play in our defence.

Morton does not need to become a dogged inside player but he does need to go when its his turn. I would not be surprised if he improves markedly under the new regime but will need time to find his feet. Best of luck today Cale and for the rest of the year I hope this season has you having alot of people eating humble pie.

Some more facts for you:

Morton need another 8kgs

Morton has been gifted more games than any player in memory (maybe Brad Miller qualifies too!) Hasn't helped him one bit.

I am sick of hearing this pre-season interruption crud. Morton hurt his finger and missed a few weeks. That does not cause a loss of aerobic capacity, running ability or even weight building. Morton is simply a player who does not want to play AFL badly enough. Look at his brothers if you want to see how the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Morton has played many times in the backline - hanging in the fwds pocket getting cheap kicks.

As for winning the Larke medal. FMD. What do you want? Valenti won two Listons. So what. Even Ezra Poyas has won one. It means nothing. Absolutely nothing about a players ability at AFL level. We have seen enough of Cale to know what his strengths and weaknesses are. My bet is he won't last 5 games under Neeld.

His most infuriating habit for mine is hanging 10-15m off his player when the opp'n has the ball. WTF is that about?? Does he think he can run the player down? ALl it does is give the player an easy possession. You can mark my words and I'll be watching him closely today.

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There is no way Morton is 87 kgs. I have stood next to him and I am 90kgs. I reckon he would be 82-83 kgs at best.

BTW It wouldn't be the first time that a club has put misinformation on its player profiles.

Big Red F

Some more facts for you:

Morton need another 8kgs

Morton has been gifted more games than any player in memory (maybe Brad Miller qualifies too!) Hasn't helped him one bit.

I am sick of hearing this pre-season interruption crud. Morton hurt his finger and missed a few weeks. That does not cause a loss of aerobic capacity, running ability or even weight building. Morton is simply a player who does not want to play AFL badly enough. Look at his brothers if you want to see how the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Morton has played many times in the backline - hanging in the fwds pocket getting cheap kicks.

As for winning the Larke medal. FMD. What do you want? Valenti won two Listons. So what. Even Ezra Poyas has won one. It means nothing. Absolutely nothing about a players ability at AFL level. We have seen enough of Cale to know what his strengths and weaknesses are. My bet is he won't last 5 games under Neeld.

His most infuriating habit for mine is hanging 10-15m off his player when the opp'n has the ball. WTF is that about?? Does he think he can run the player down? ALl it does is give the player an easy possession. You can mark my words and I'll be watching him closely today.

I agree that he needs another 3-5 kilos. However there is a difference between stating he has put no weight on and saying you would like him to play at a higher weight. I will take the official AFL stats for his weight over "you standing next to him". Maybe you should have asked if you could try and lift him up just to be sure.

I assume you mean he was gifted games in his first 2 years when he averaged 18 and 22 possessions? Morton then hurt his knee in the last practice match of 2010 and missed the first 8 games, then injured his finger and missed the last 3 practice matches last year and the first rounds of the season.

Going to the backline to get a kick does not equate to playing in the back 6. I assume most football followers understand this.

Comparing the Larke medal for the best U18 player with players winning the Liston for the best player in a second tier competition speaks for itself.

I am not saying he does not have faults but the amount of bile that is spewed on this sight about him is ridiculous.

I hope you and others watch him today with an unbiased view but I find that doubtful.

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I said some time ago that opposition players must just love it when Morton goes to them. They know the handshake is about as close as he's going to get all day. They know he's not going to to hurt them physically or on the scoreboard. From what I've witnessed in recent times Cale Morton cannot survive at this level. He might be okay in an elite team where team-mates have the skills to feed him out wide where he can use his run but in this team he needs to be able to get his own ball.

Could I be proven wrong? Geez, I hope so.

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I am not saying he does not have faults but the amount of bile that is spewed on this sight about him is ridiculous.

I hope you and others watch him today with an unbiased view but I find that doubtful.

Open season on Cale today. His performance today has been deplorable.

Posted

Open season on Cale today. His performance today has been deplorable.

I thought he'd been okay until "that" moment on the HFF. I detest the vitriol that gets said about Cale on here, but I will say that if that's his idea of a second effort, his stay in the senior team will be short.

Posted

Was far from our worst today. Gave some run, made a few errors but give him a few games before writing him off this year. Just an easy target for the keyboard heros.

WTF?! Were you there?

Did nothing (excluding a few turnovers and clangers). Was pushed off the ball any time it was near him (which was not often). Did not chase hard enough (although wasn't alone there).

Should NEVER play for MFC again. EVER.

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Was far from our worst today. Gave some run, made a few erro.rs but give him a few games before writing him off this year. Just an easy target for the keyboard heros.

Good effort to type when you are clearly medically blind mate. Morton was disgusting. Putting up with Morton and accepting that performance from a bloke playing for his career is worse than jus.tifying mediocrity

Posted

Terrible early but better once Grimes was off and he played Grimes' role. 17 touches let him play one more before we delist him.

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