2011 TRADES DISCUSSION

[GM11 776]

Agree that they still trump us, but not by much. Do you know the value/type of Compo pick GC have to offer with pick 4? Ours possibly could be stronger. We still might offer a player as well to sweeten it (even though GWS have said they want picks)

Pick 6 just gets us closer to the mark if we are seriously trying to secure O'Meara...

Unless we've conceded O'Meara and are going at Crouch.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Pick 12 and any two of Bate, Maric or Warnock plus our first compo pick to GW$ for Crouch and pick 14.

Probably not god enough but Maric may be of interest to them.

[furious d 463]

Port may be keen on pick 12 to get the Ebert deal done. Giving up 6 for Ebert would be paying overs, but if they trade 6 to us for a player and 12, then 12 to WC for Ebert it's a better deal. I'd be very surprised if Bate was that player though.

Very happy to see Harrington is as keen on the mini-draft as a lot of us around here. I don't care if we get pick 1 or 2, I'd be just as happy with Crouch as O'meara. I can't see anyone trumping pick 12 and a compo pick, if GWS only want picks. Get it done Tim.

[bing181 9,194]

Very happy to see Harrington is as keen on the mini-draft as a lot of us around here. I don't care if we get pick 1 or 2, I'd be just as happy with Crouch as O'meara. I can't see anyone trumping pick 12 and a compo pick, if GWS only want picks. Get it done Tim.

Ditto on Crouch, and don't know that it's worth throwing everything at O'Meara. GC could easily trump 12 plus a compo with 4 plus a compo ... but hard to see us not being second cab off the rank. Though for mine, don't know that two mid-ranking picks on what is supposed to be a strong draft (next year) would be worth it for one potential top 5 pick (e.g. Crouch). We already have Viney, who could easily be top 5 in any case, so with what we have in hand, we would end up with Viney plus 3 first round picks next year - well, as long as no-one else bids first round for Viney under the Father/Son rules.

So, IMHO, player plus a compo would be all I'd be going for - though not sure it would be enough to get us one of the (probably) two under-17's on offer.

[GRUN DEE 69]

Port may be keen on pick 12 to get the Ebert deal done. Giving up 6 for Ebert would be paying overs, but if they trade 6 to us for a player and 12, then 12 to WC for Ebert it's a better deal. I'd be very surprised if Bate was that player though.

Very happy to see Harrington is as keen on the mini-draft as a lot of us around here. I don't care if we get pick 1 or 2, I'd be just as happy with Crouch as O'meara. I can't see anyone trumping pick 12 and a compo pick, if GWS only want picks. Get it done Tim.

+1

Very logical.

I believe the Dee's are going to make a statement and trump GC.

I am quitley confident in snaring O'meara.

Pick 6, both compo picks & Warnock for O'meara & GWS Pick 15???

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Port may be keen on pick 12 to get the Ebert deal done. Giving up 6 for Ebert would be paying overs, but if they trade 6 to us for a player and 12, then 12 to WC for Ebert it's a better deal. I'd be very surprised if Bate was that player though.

Very happy to see Harrington is as keen on the mini-draft as a lot of us around here. I don't care if we get pick 1 or 2, I'd be just as happy with Crouch as O'meara. I can't see anyone trumping pick 12 and a compo pick, if GWS only want picks. Get it done Tim.

massive overs, Ebert isnt worth a first rounder full stop

[simma02 53]

Nobody interested in this statement?

To me he said we HAVE been talking to mature player types from other clubs in exchange for Bate, Warnock, Maric types ect

Agreed. It looks like we will be getting on the front foot instead of waiting around and seeing what's being thrown around. Target Recruiting. I like that.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Port may be keen on pick 12 to get the Ebert deal done. Giving up 6 for Ebert would be paying overs, but if they trade 6 to us for a player and 12, then 12 to WC for Ebert it's a better deal. I'd be very surprised if Bate was that player though.

Very happy to see Harrington is as keen on the mini-draft as a lot of us around here. I don't care if we get pick 1 or 2, I'd be just as happy with Crouch as O'meara. I can't see anyone trumping pick 12 and a compo pick, if GWS only want picks. Get it done Tim.

I do believe that pick 6 and 12 is massive overs for Brad Ebert, but you are definitely on the right track.

Ebert will be worth imo somewhere around pick 20 or so and Ports second pick is 33 which is nowhere near what is required to get the deal done.

So if they can get a downgrade form 6 to 12 and something else of value, more than Bate imo this could open up the deal

to then be Ebert and WC first pick 23 for Ports pick 12

or something along these lines

Meaning Port get Ebert, Bate and pick 23 plus a few other things maybe for pick 6 not out of the question imo

[binman 42,689]

Heard on SEN O'Halpin keen to be traded. Any interest? He's can be a bit haywire, prone to brain explosions and his kicking is not the best but he his big enough to be the forward we need and takes a good grab. Thought he was teriffic against Wet Coke.

Warnock and Maric for him?

Edited October 10, 2011 by binman

[Goat 98]

O'halpin is to old and will start kicking our players in the nuts

[rpfc 28,265]

O'halpin is to old and will start kicking our players in the nuts

They deserve it.

[binman 42,689]

O'halpin is to old and will start kicking our players in the nuts

How old is he? (most of our players would need to grow a set to be kicked there - boom boom)

[The Albino Warrior 44]

Heard on SEN O'Halpin keen to be traded. Any interest? He's can be a bit haywire, prone to brain explosions and his kicking is not the best but he his big enough to be the forward we need and takes a good grab. Thought he was teriffic against Wet Coke.

Warnock and Maric for him?

I don't want to see Setanta at Melbourne and if he does come here, I'd be disappointed if we gave anything better than a pick very late in the draft.

Warnock and Maric would be far far too much.

[Lutz 76]

Pick 4 and compo pick is stronger than pick 6 and compo pick. So I don't see why GC would have to come up with a stronger package, they trump us..

Like I said Port would be crazy..

Maybe you're forgetting that the rumour involves GC getting pick 9 in return with O'Meara?

Then pick 6 and a compo pick definitely wins.

Especially considering the compo pick is really after Geelong's pick, as previously mentioned by others.

[Goat 98]

How old is he? (most of our players would need to grow a set to be kicked there - boom boom)

O'halpin is 28 i think

[Monty Kaufman 44]

I just got a comment on FB saying that the red headed left footer and Maric have both "joined" Warnock in asking for a trade outta demonland? Now Maric I can understand, but Bate? What has neeld told him?

[The Albino Warrior 44]

What has neeld told him?

The truth?

He's had a big, strong body for years now and has never shown he can use it. Therefore you'd have to call him a medium forward. We have Green, Petterd, Howe, Jurrah, Dunn and Sylvia who I think are all ahead of him. Most would say that at the very least 4 out of those 6 are better footballers.

What does Bate do better than any of these players that means he's worth persisting with?

If I were him, I'd be requesting a trade as well.

[tonatopia 278]

Spenser, maric, bate, warnock, Dunn and pick 12 for the 17 year old of choice. Gws need mature bodies.

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

How did the pies get a starting 22 player who is still young and another young forward prospect for a late 20s pick?

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Spenser, maric, bate, warnock, Dunn and pick 12 for the 17 year old of choice. Gws need mature bodies.

Pretty sure GWS have said they want high picks not players

And if they do want players they would want, Jones, Petterd, Garland ......

[east gippsland demon 7]

Not a bad suggestion really....we are in the market for a small forward. 79 goals.

http://www.sportingp...150677-14505841

Avg. 3.76 goals a game. And topped the list for the year in the VFL..as you say.

Our second pick is at around ~39 (depends upon concession/priority picks in play)..

Agree ... also is amed saad ( spelling?) from the bullants contracted to the blues? could be very lively for us in a crumbing role i reckon....

[east gippsland demon 7]

When the heck do we name our delistings??? other clubs seem to have named theirs...??

[dee-luded 2,959]

When the heck do we name our delistings??? other clubs seem to have named theirs...??

After the trade period is finished. I think they hope to find new homes for all we let go. Nice thought. So we hope to trade Out a few. And trade in 2, or 3, or ?

[Nascent 9,111]

When the heck do we name our delistings??? other clubs seem to have named theirs...??

I'm glad we haven't yet, there is no need to. No sense in delisting someone who might have some currency on the trade market, no matter how small. Better to negiotiate an upgrade of a late draft pick than delist a player and let a club pick him up for nothing (Buckley).

We should have a firm idea of how many draft picks we want to use this draft so it's best to wait and see if we get any offers and move on a contracted player or two before making those decisions. I'm not 100% certain but I believe Warnock, Bate (Maric?) are contracted for next year. If one or two of them moves on I reckon it may provide a reprieve for Joel Macdonald.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Ahhh sorry, I probably wasn't clear in what I was replying to, I was referring to your second point about pick 12.... I got the bit about our compo pick.

... and incidentally I agree, I don't know why the other picks would get involved... but perhaps Port are rating the value of Pick 6 a fair bit higher, hence why we trade our 1st and 2nd picks for their 1st pick and their 3rd one (.... and Bate)

The depth of the draft is unclear & considered shallow, Maybe Port think they stand a better chance with 2 picks inside 35. But it still sounds like Maric may need to be added.