Monfries

[45HG 1,559]

Disgraceful.

[biggestred 5,140]

agreed.

but - at least he is honest enough to come out and admit it, and look at improving his play.

far better than a certain bomber full forward who is now in the media

or a certain kangaroos captain

[diesel 420]

What a scoop, but as if he needed to admit it!

The only people who probably believe it wasn't staged are the robots at the MRP cahrged with disinfecting anything that looks slightly upsetting to the mother of an Auskicker.

[Tatu 416]

His honesty makes a mockery of the MRP. The AFL won't like this, he might get suspended for bring the game into disrepute.

[Satan 2,881]

His honesty makes a mockery of the MRP. The AFL won't like this, he might get suspended for bring the game into disrepute.

Plus 1 and tars all bombers with same brush, are they under instruction and if so by whom? Lewis and hawks will be ropable by this , new line in sand game next they play bombers

[H_T 3,049]

Disgraceful.

Doesn't help Lewis coming out now. Pathetic.

[Choko 493]

Doesn't help Lewis coming out now. Pathetic.

How do they justify the fact he has not been charged for staging?

[QueenC 74]

How do they justify the fact he has not been charged for staging?

Has anyone actually been charged with staging?

[daisycutter 29,743]

Has anyone actually been charged with staging?

Catch22

We only (really) know he staged because he admitted it

If you charge him then no-one in future would admit it

[QueenC 74]

Catch22

We only (really) know he staged because he admitted it

If you charge him then no-one in future would admit it

Fair point, but the rule is there right?

[daisycutter 29,743]

Fair point, but the rule is there right?

True, and the AFL are.....well....the AFL....if you know what I mean

[H_T 3,049]

True, and the AFL are.....well....the AFL....if you know what I mean

Let me guess DC.

They're in the process of tightening up the rules.

First things first though, third parties. Must look after the AFLfc GWSfc.

[QueenC 74]

True, and the AFL are.....well....the AFL....if you know what I mean

Oh yeah DC, legal things are suspended, while illegal actions go unnoticed (until the player outs himself).....

What a stellar and even handed organisation we have here !!!

[Eth 4]

Two weeks for bringing the game into disrepute, what Lewis got.

If the AFL was the slightest bit fair, anyway...

[daisycutter 29,743]

Oh yeah DC, legal things are suspended, while illegal actions go unnoticed (until the player outs himself).....

What a stellar and even handed organisation we have here !!!

Quite. It should be a cut and dry case

However I think it is a stupid rule that is almost impossible to administer (as in soccer)

They have the general 'disrepute' rule and this could be used for extreme breaches (whatever they may be?)

[45HG 1,559]

Stepping up! Though I don't see how Monfries admitting to staging means he can't be fined or suspended. Pretty useless rule for that to be the case.

[QueenC 74]

They have the general 'disrepute' rule and this could be used for extreme breaches (whatever they may be?)

A player was suspended directly due to his actions, does that qualify as extreme?

[Forest Demon 4,681]

I could pick out a few Melbourne players I have seen staging for free kicks this year, so I wouldn't take aim at Monfries too much.

At least he had the guts to admit it and look to fix it up.

The AFL need to crack down on it significantly, it is not as if it is hard to see it when it happens.

[Kento80 83]

What a stellar and even handed organisation we have here !!!

How dare you call them such horrendous names. They are obviously going for corrupt and one sided!

[daisycutter 29,743]

A player was suspended directly due to his actions, does that qualify as extreme?

well the afl are saying that he wasn't suspended due to the staging and that contact (to the sacred head) was still there and the staging was incidental

don't shoot me i'm just the messenger

the afl are as weak as p155 on this one and you are right, someone was suspended over this and this confession at least casts doubt on at least part of the elements of the verdict and therefore must make the suspension unsafe

but i thought we agreed this was the unaccountable-change-the-rules-to-suit-anytime-afl

[daisycutter 29,743]

I could pick out a few Melbourne players I have seen staging for free kicks this year, so I wouldn't take aim at Monfries too much.

At least he had the guts to admit it and look to fix it up.

The AFL need to crack down on it significantly, it is not as if it is hard to see it when it happens.

he should be fined

but it is hard. look at soccer. you might pick (accurately) 1 in 5-10

[Forest Demon 4,681]

he should be fined

but it is hard. look at soccer. you might pick (accurately) 1 in 5-10

I agree, he should be fined or suspended for a week. But I could easily find more than 10 others that deserve the same treatment, including some from our own club (Lynden Dunn against North comes to mind).

I guess there is a bit of grey area, but there are plenty of obvious examples going unnoticed by the AFL.

Look at world football now, FIFA have never stepped in and tried to eradicate diving, and it has got worse and worse, and now has become a massive blight on the game. Please don't let it get to anywhere near this stage in our game.

[daisycutter 29,743]

I agree, he should be fined or suspended for a week. But I could easily find more than 10 others that deserve the same treatment, including some from our own club (Lynden Dunn against North comes to mind).

I guess there is a bit of grey area, but there are plenty of obvious examples going unnoticed by the AFL.

Look at world football now, FIFA have never stepped in and tried to eradicate diving, and it has got worse and worse, and now has become a massive blight on the game. Please don't let it get to anywhere near this stage in our game.

all pretty true, but i don't think its a big prob in afl and no worse than its always been

theres really two types

A] exaggeration or demonstrative. player enhances the offence he thinks is there to make umpire notice

B] complete fabrication, just a straight out con.

not much you can/should do about A]

umpires should maybe get more involved with B]. maybe a warning or a free against. for worst examples the mrp could look at and probably fine for first offence

I'm not very happy though at having a specific rule as I don't think it is that big a problem. as i said before the general 'disrepute' rule could always be used for really bad examples. the game is getting sanitised enough

Edited July 14, 2011 by daisycutter