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This thread has gone on for way too long - if Scully wants to continue to play for MFC he should sort it out now.

Personally, I subscribe to the view that a team of players agree to stay together and probably accept less individual payment than they could achieve elsewhere - it's a small individual price to pay for continued success and that inner glow of loyal satisfaction, especially given the relatively high wages paid to footballers these days.

I hope Scully stays - I also hope the rest of our young guns stay and enjoy the benefits of loyalty which can't be measured in dollars.

That's how we were successful in the 50's - Jim Cardwell and Norm Smith would be proud of such players.

Too right. It's why a Brian Dixon or a Ron Barrassi or a Hassa Mann can walk into the MFC now and still be revered as a champion 50 years after they left the game.

Money and playing in front of 8000 disinterested rugby followers can't buy that. Once you're career's finished up there, goodbye and we'll try to remember your name at the 10 year reunion.

How utterly hollow.

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Ease up fellas, I am not liking where the sentiments of this post are headed. What we do know is that Scully is currently a dee and is playing as hard as he ever has so he deserves our support. There are a number of players currently playing whose contracts finish at the end of the year and who, in all likelihood will negotiate new contracts at the end of the season yet these players are not attracting our angst. I for one would think that Sylvia is just as much an integral member of the side as Scully, their contract status remain the same yet Col is not attracting any negative comments.

Scully will stay or he will go, it will not be the end of the club. I feel that moderators should end this thread simply for the fact that it is inflaming and already tense situation and I would hate for any of this anger to have an impact on the club. Yes, it is a frustrating situation but we have to sit back and trust the footy admin to get the job done.

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Martin is easily the pick of the draft right now. This may change, but right now he is out in front.

Jordie will tear him a new one come Saturday.

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Setting salaries on the basis of potential is a disaster nd the reason there is a set scale of salaries for players in their first two years.

I'm beginning to accept the balances of both results here.

Scully stays, we have an extra star player with us, and it says all sorts of good things about our club. However, he'd probably cost 600k a season and seriously screw with our carefully managed salary cap, which in the end could cost us other players right as we're peaking.

Sculy goes, we probably get two first round picks which we can use in any of the ext five drafts, letting us watch the development of our current list and boost our stocks to correct any deficiencies and to maintan a generation of playing momentum, al while saving a whole pile of salary cap space. Plus, we become the only club to get good crowds and coverage against GWS.

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I met a nice girl once, really wanted to marry her so I says to her you either marry me now or nick off.

You gotta be strong and forceful, and if you someone won't do what you want them to you gotta make em, yeah.

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Ease up fellas, I am not liking where the sentiments of this post are headed. What we do know is that Scully is currently a dee and is playing as hard as he ever has so he deserves our support. There are a number of players currently playing whose contracts finish at the end of the year and who, in all likelihood will negotiate new contracts at the end of the season yet these players are not attracting our angst. I for one would think that Sylvia is just as much an integral member of the side as Scully, their contract status remain the same yet Col is not attracting any negative comments.

Scully will stay or he will go, it will not be the end of the club. I feel that moderators should end this thread simply for the fact that it is inflaming and already tense situation and I would hate for any of this anger to have an impact on the club. Yes, it is a frustrating situation but we have to sit back and trust the footy admin to get the job done.

Interesting that the mods on Demonology have pulled the pin on Scully talk. Probably a good idea. I must say that all this talk is making me unhappy and there's not a damned thing we can do to effect the outcome.

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Setting salaries on the basis of potential is a disaster nd the reason there is a set scale of salaries for players in their first two years.

I'm beginning to accept the balances of both results here.

Scully stays, we have an extra star player with us, and it says all sorts of good things about our club. However, he'd probably cost 600k a season and seriously screw with our carefully managed salary cap, which in the end could cost us other players right as we're peaking.

Sculy goes, we probably get two first round picks which we can use in any of the ext five drafts, letting us watch the development of our current list and boost our stocks to correct any deficiencies and to maintan a generation of playing momentum, al while saving a whole pile of salary cap space. Plus, we become the only club to get good crowds and coverage against GWS.

Sure. there is no way he should be over paid, but without him our midfield will suffer straight away.

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Most kids of his age would be absolutely stoked to be seen to be an integral part of an AFL club's future, but this seems almost irrelevant to Scully. I find it wholly bizarre that he seems, almost wilfully, to ignore what the club and its supporters would love him to do. At his age, such discipline and lack of impressionability is almost pathologically weird.

Here, here Ron. Very well said. I couldn't agree more. We are learning a lot about Tom's priorities and clearly the club is not one of them.


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I think the attacks and questions over the integrity of one of the members of our football team have gone on long enough.

We on Demonland are supporters of the Melbourne Football Club, many of the posts on this issue have been ridiculous, ill conceived and potentially destructive. I support the club's stance on this issue and believe they are handling it in the best interests of the future of the club.

Any post which attacks the integrity of Tom Scully or has any such inference will be deleted. Unsubstantiated rumours will also be deleted and members banned if those rumours are found to be false. Any person inciting any unsportsmanlike or threatening gestures towards Tom Scully will also be banned.

Please keep this discussion on track in the interests of the club, the player/s and the general sanity of the Demonland community.

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Interesting that the mods on Demonology have pulled the pin on Scully talk. Probably a good idea. I must say that all this talk is making me unhappy and there's not a damned thing we can do to effect the outcome.

Agreed until there is evidence that he has changed his mind or is going to sign. All it does is anger supporters and we are running the risk of people booing and treating him with distain. The reason it continues to be an issue is because of topics like these. If you read any article regarding Tom Scully it always starts with "worried" or "angry" supporters, don't think jurnos don't read this because if they didn't they wouldn't be doing there job properly.. If your over 15 I recommend to just stay away and be patient. It is up to both the club and player. Not much us supporters can do but support both Tom and the club. Geelongs supporters did everything they could to try and keep Garry Ablett that did absolutely nothing

I don't see a Colin Sylvia Thread regarding the same matter and atm he is by far a better player then young Tom. At least Tom has said he wishes to organize his contract at years end. Has Colin?

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This has gone past tragedy and into farce.Get a grip on yourself freaky Dees .Someone even insisted he come out and make another statement for the sake of this thread .Tommy we beg you ,please end the thread....

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I think the attacks and questions over the integrity of one of the members of our football team have gone on long enough.

We on Demonland are supporters of the Melbourne Football Club, many of the posts on this issue have been ridiculous, ill conceived and potentially destructive. I support the club's stance on this issue and believe they are handling it in the best interests of the future of the club.

Any post which attacks the integrity of Tom Scully or has any such inference will be deleted. Unsubstantiated rumours will also be deleted and members banned if those rumours are found to be false.

Please keep this discussion on track in the interests of the club, the player/s and the general sanity of the Demonland community.

gOOD and while you're at it I hope you stop posts which are character attacks on Matthew Bate, Lynden Dunn and Cale Morton who constantly cop far worse on this site and demonology than Tom ever has. There is a double standard here. A comment suggesting a player is looking for the $$$ is an attack on their integrity, whilst attacks questioning the courage and personal traits of "LESSER PLAYERS" goes on unabated here and on demonology.

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I think the attacks and questions over the integrity of one of the members of our football team have gone on long enough.

We on Demonland are supporters of the Melbourne Football Club, many of the posts on this issue have been ridiculous, ill conceived and potentially destructive. I support the club's stance on this issue and believe they are handling it in the best interests of the future of the club.

Any post which attacks the integrity of Tom Scully or has any such inference will be deleted. Unsubstantiated rumours will also be deleted and members banned if those rumours are found to be false. Any person inciting any unsportsmanlike or threatening gestures towards Tom Scully will also be banned.

Please keep this discussion on track in the interests of the club, the player/s and the general sanity of the Demonland community.

hAA. My first censored post in prob. ten years on this site. Meanwhile you allow posters to throw any rubbish at a number of Melbourne players (Morton, Bate, Dunn for example) and hit the dump button when this pointed out to you.

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Agreed until there is evidence that he has changed his mind or is going to sign. All it does is anger supporters and we are running the risk of people booing and treating him with distain. The reason it continues to be an issue is because of topics like these. If you read any article regarding Tom Scully it always starts with "worried" or "angry" supporters, don't think jurnos don't read this because if they didn't they wouldn't be doing there job properly.. If your over 15 I recommend to just stay away and be patient. It is up to both the club and player. Not much us supporters can do but support both Tom and the club. Geelongs supporters did everything they could to try and keep Garry Ablett that did absolutely nothing

I don't see a Colin Sylvia Thread regarding the same matter and atm he is by far a better player then young Tom. At least Tom has said he wishes to organize his contract at years end. Has Colin?

hahah leave Tom alone bag Sylvia instead! This thread keeps on giving!

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hAA. My first censored post in prob. ten years on this site. Meanwhile you allow posters to throw any rubbish at a number of Melbourne players (Morton, Bate, Dunn for example) and hit the dump button when this pointed out to you.

If you can't see the difference between commenting on an observed football situation and attacks on a players integrity fonded on RUMOURS then the problem isn't mine.

Have a go at Scully's kicking if you wish, I don't think it is reasonable to attack the integrity of one of our own. Some of the posts that have been deleted have been appalling and I won't repeat them.

If you have a problem with protecting the interests of our club maybe you should question your own loyalties?

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Please don't kill any semblance of intellectual integrity that this site may have preserved to date.

It's this type of reaction that killed Demonology a few years back.

You clearly have many genuinely concerned posters reading this loop - I don't expect making it a one way street will do anyone any favours, including the club we all support.

Just my view though. Feel free to censor it as you see fit.

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FELLOW DEMONS.... WE NEED TO MOVE ON FROM THE SCULLY SAGA!! I KNOW ITS HARD TO THINK OF LIFE WITHOUT SCULLY, BUT THE MFC WILL STILL BE AS STRONG AND UNITED AS EVER....ONE PLAYER DOESNT MAKE A FOOTBALL CLUB!!! ESPECIALLY THE OLDEST CLUB IN THE WORLD.. IF SCULLY GOES TO GWS SO BE IT.. LETS ENJOY 2011 GO DEES


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this is my first post on here, and all i can say is at this stage i feel tom will make the right choice we have made it very clear the direction the club is going in and i hope tom wants to be a part of that. Either way we have a very talented bunch of kids and i'm sure we can succeed with our without him.

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hahah leave Tom alone bag Sylvia instead! This thread keeps on giving!

Not my intention at all just saying Tom should be treated the same was as Sylvia. Of course GWS would want him. Although I'm sure if we sign Tom they will be more then happy to have a crack at Sylvia.

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this is my first post on here, and all i can say is at this stage i feel tom will make the right choice we have made it very clear the direction the club is going in and i hope tom wants to be a part of that. Either way we have a very talented bunch of kids and i'm sure we can succeed with our without him.

Agree.

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FELLOW DEMONS.... WE NEED TO MOVE ON FROM THE SCULLY SAGA!! I KNOW ITS HARD TO THINK OF LIFE WITHOUT SCULLY, BUT THE MFC WILL STILL BE AS STRONG AND UNITED AS EVER....ONE PLAYER DOESNT MAKE A FOOTBALL CLUB!!! ESPECIALLY THE OLDEST CLUB IN THE WORLD.. IF SCULLY GOES TO GWS SO BE IT.. LETS ENJOY 2011 GO DEES

From my perspective, the issue is not so much Tom Scully - but the thought that we were gifted picks 1 and 2 and may not ultimately get the benefit of what that could potentially have delivered us.

And, for what it's worth, it is a big issue. Objectively. Only earlier tonight on 'On The Couch' did Roos, Healy and Sheahan raise it once again. I hope Scully was listening, because Roos thinks his future should be well and truly at the Demons.

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If you can't see the difference between commenting on an observed football situation and attacks on a players integrity fonded on RUMOURS then the problem isn't mine.

Have a go at Scully's kicking if you wish, I don't think it is reasonable to attack the integrity of one of our own. Some of the posts that have been deleted have been appalling and I won't repeat them.

If you have a problem with protecting the interests of our club maybe you should question your own loyalties?

Look, I presume you are targetting comments such as Red n Blue Flame which I agree shouldn't be put up without foundation. Come on, a comment on a player's kicking!!! you must be joking, on what basis did you allow years of dribble about Cameron Bruce. all I am saying is be consistent. I prob. go back longer than you and not only remember the Barassi defection but the way supporters were ambushed with the sudden announcement he was going to Carlton. It was presented to the public as a fait accompli, and this secrecy was a key ingredient in getting Barassi over the line. who knows if the internet had existed in the second half of '64 the supporter base may have persuaded Ron to stay and history may have been different.

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Please don't kill any semblance of intellectual integrity that this site may have preserved to date.

It's this type of reaction that killed Demonology a few years back.

You clearly have many genuinely concerned posters reading this loop - I don't expect making it a one way street will do anyone any favours, including the club we all support.

Just my view though. Feel free to censor it as you see fit.

+1 Censorship is a slippery slope. You should be able to express a negative view (without going over the top), however unpalatable it may be others.

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Dandeeman, would you please explain your comment of 09.31pm - the english is strange, but maybe I'm just not very bright.

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