The Tom Scully Saga

[Face Your Demons 175]

I find it amzaing the GWS would offer a 20 year old 1 million a year, no matter how big there cap is. On the same point how long do the Suns and GWS have the extra cap to spend

[Mac7 309]

I don't understand why people think that we can't afford to keep scully if he was to get $600-700k. Other clubs are able to have 5 or so top line players on their list that must be on huge coin.

I know that he is young to be getting that kind of money, but let's be honest he will be well worth it!

[hardtack 10,422]

Malthouse Job Application

Not sure if this deserves a seperate thread but has Malthouse signed or is he waiting to the end of the year when he will know if scully is staying.

Please make use of the emoticons when making these kinds of posts... this is like pouring nitro onto the fire a few are warming themselves around, in here

[Robbie57 2,001]

Please make use of the emoticons when making these kinds of posts... this is like pouring nitro onto the fire a few are warming themselves around, in here

B) Is this a non smoking area? Sorry

[PaulRB 6,297]

I'd rather the MFC lose Scully than pay him more than we could then offer Trengove, Watts etc... down the track. The MFC is building a premiership list, and we are going to need our stars to moderate their wage claims to keep our talented group together to get those flags. GWS are using their extra salary to lure players and gain attention in the Syd market, their initial goal is not a flag list.

Hence the decision for Tom has to be

1. Stay at Melb on perhaps 450k p.a. (same as what other MFC "stars" in their 3rd year can earn) and push for a flag in the next 3 years

2. Go to GWS for 800k p.a. and essential start back where MFC were 3 years ago...

Simple really, if Tom's priority is playing footy for football glory he'll stay, if his priority is earning the most he can for his talents he goes. Nothing wrong with either choice. Except I want him to stay (and we can win a flag if we pay him too much).

[Face Your Demons 175]

Collingwood coach Mick Malthouses lashed the rule he would glady use if he could.

[H_T 3,032]

Yep, and the way to ward off GWS poaching Tom Scully is for the club and supporters to remain calm, consistent, confident and supportive and to resist hysterical ultimatums, hair-tearing and hand-wringing. Get it straight - YOU can drive Tom away from our club with weak-minded pessimism or YOU can influence him to stay by hanging tough.

Indeed. If anyone or anything drives him away, it won't necessarily be the money, it will be those supporters demanding statements or Tom to sign now to satisfy their own needs, or those weak minded enough to yell abuse at him.

The contract talk will commence at season's end as planned. Don't vent, chill and support your club.

There is an important game against Richmond this week for those who are interested.

[deeflog 679]

I'd rather the MFC lose Scully than pay him more than we could then offer Trengove, Wates etc... down the track.

WHO??? is that player half Matthew Bate cross with Jack Watts?

[Guest hangon007]

I want to reiterate this point.

We are supporters of this club, and our club is trying to keep a player.

We are not helping by being the fuel in this rumour spreading - surely there has been so many contradictory and altered rumours that they all get less believable?

The old axiom of "where thers is smoke there is fire" is quite right - but how many different fires can there be if there is only one spark?

We should be asking ourselves where these erroneous rumours come from (if you believe he is gone, fine, but there is only one 'true' rumour)?

They are coming from the west, and they are trying to enact a self-fulfiling prophecy - make enough people think Tom is gone, and they will make life so difficult that he will decide to leave.

Gubby Allan is a brilliant bastard - don't let him do this to our club.

ahhh ... the old divide and conquer strategy.

Are you suggesting GWS are using both conventional (ie print, radio & Tv) & modern day media (ie social media) to influence both Tom & the public?

[rpfc 28,052]

ahhh ... the old divide and conquer strategy.

Are you suggesting GWS are using both conventional (ie print, radio & Tv) & modern day media (ie social media) to influence both Tom & the public?

I didn't know this was news?!

This is a high stakes game and the millions at stake rely on what they do now - they are throwing the sh!te every which way, the 800 odd footy journos are picking it up, polishing it and serving it to us, and we are eating it up.

Gubby Allan would go to the trouble of burning friends like Sheahan to get what he wants - he has done it before.

Ablett didn't this many rumours runnning around.

There is an architect and you know what?

I hate architects.

[Guest Guy Rigoni]

This whole affair is cheap, nasty and downright boring.

[nutbean 8,838]

ahhh ... the old divide and conquer strategy.

Are you suggesting GWS are using both conventional (ie print, radio & Tv) & modern day media (ie social media) to influence both Tom & the public?

Are you suggesting they are not ? There is only one game in town for out of contract players at seasons end and it is called GWS. Throw your money laden net out far enough and you are sure to catch fish. The only given is that GWS is talking and the talk would not be restricted to player managers.

[nutbean 8,838]

Gubby Allan is a brilliant bastard - don't let him do this to our club.

I dont think he even needs to be labelled a brilliant bastard - the situation/rules make this game pretty easy to play - all you need to do is point to G Ablett last year. If you take him at face value , he was less than enamoured with Thompson and his behaviour about him possibly leaving the club and this was part of reason for leaving. The rumours about Ablett and their handling of the situation allowed the situation to degenerate down at Geelong. I'm with you rpfc - dont buy into it.

[Guest hangon007]

Are you suggesting they are not ?

No. Quite the opposite. IMHO ... We, the MFC community, currently are a prime target for this type of strategy.

Edited June 20, 2011 by hangon007

[nutbean 8,838]

No. Quite the opposite. IMHO ... We, the MFC community, currently are a prime target for this type of strategy.

never a truer word spoken

[Armitage Shanks 0]

This whole affair is cheap, nasty and downright boring.

I can't help but think that the thugs in the scallop industry are behind this.

Tom was born and spawned on this game selling drinks and dixie ice creams in bay 13 and through guts and determination ran out onto that mighty arena.

[Harcourt 146]

I can't help but think that the thugs in the scallop industry are behind this.

Tom was born and spawned on this game selling drinks and dixie ice creams in bay 13 and through guts and determination ran out onto that mighty arena.

This is dizzy stuff folks!

Edited June 20, 2011 by Harcourt

[Bruce Almighty 0]

To all the jokers that think supporters can change a players decision to stay or go - get a grip on life - he wouldnt even read the Herald Sun let alone some site with supporter opinion. Please!

Secondly, the 1 and only reason why he would go is for the money - no other reason what so ever! No Rift at current club, Born and Bred Victorian, club is on the up, what other reason could it be?

And for that his decision can only be one thing and that is to stay, so why create this circus?

If we offer and/or pay him more then trengove, watts, mackensie, gysberts, frawley, sylvia or moloney i will seriously cancel my membership and never give one cent to this club! That will be the worst thing our club could do.

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

If we offer and/or pay him more then trengove, watts, mackensie, gysberts, frawley, sylvia or moloney i will seriously cancel my membership and never give one cent to this club! That will be the worst thing our club could do.

Bye.

[rpfc 28,052]

If we offer and/or pay him more then trengove, watts, mackensie, gysberts, frawley, sylvia or moloney i will seriously cancel my membership and never give one cent to this club! That will be the worst thing our club could do.

You're off then.

Scully is a generational player. If we keep him he will be the highest paid player - deal with it.

If he stays for half of what GWS is apparently offering he will still get $500k and more than any other player.

[nutbean 8,838]

I swear to god if this thread doesnt get to 2000 posts I am going to tear up my membership ( always wanted to get soo passionate about something to do with the club that i threaten to tear up my membership NOT)

[Demon Dynasty 17,094]

I watched the reply tonight and there was certainly some booing coming through the affects mike.....

Ummm....could've been Freo supporters

....or maybe...BT!

[Demon Dynasty 17,094]

Who will be the first Demonland Poster to suffer a Heart Attack/Stroke during this Scully Affair???

Thoughts.....??

Rhino for mine....definitely Rhino!

[Bruce Almighty 0]

You're off then.

Scully is a generational player. If we keep him he will be the highest paid player - deal with it.

If he stays for half of what GWS is apparently offering he will still get $500k and more than any other player.

pfft - he is a POTENTIALLY great player! But no better than trengove, watts, mckensie or tapscott! They are all potentionally great players and we are a potentionally great team! Still alot to prove.

define generational player or is this just a term you heard on footy classified one monday night!

I think your getting ahead of yourself - to me Michael Jordan is a generational player, Tiger Woods is a generational player, Black Cavier is a generational horse, floyd mayweather jnr is a generational boxer, ian thorpe is a generational swimmer, roger federer is a generational tennis player, chris judd is a generational footy player!

To me scully has the POTENTIAL to be better than anyone and when he is he deserves to be paid accordinly but at the moment he should NOT be paid anymore then the others!

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

You're off then.

Scully is a generational player. If we keep him he will be the highest paid player - deal with it.

If he stays for half of what GWS is apparently offering he will still get $500k and more than any other player.

disagree

if i had to choose between he, Watts and Trenners it would be a dead heat