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Meeson retired;

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23171

West uncotracted;

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2010/10/06/216481_gfc.html

& apparently West is unhappy being 3rd in line. A few whispers and I don't see why not. We are an exciting proposition these days..

Bring back Fogell!

And Trent West would be good.

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Not sure how we could set up to definitely get him. He could go in the ND with a contract price but we wouldn't use pick 12 and there's a lot of picks before our's even at 32. Similarly with the PSD - West Coast, Richmond and Essendon would no doubt be interested, could meet his contract and could have picks before us. Would he leave Geelong with no guarantee where he's going to end up?

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Not sure how we could set up to definitely get him. He could go in the ND with a contract price but we wouldn't use pick 12 and there's a lot of picks before our's even at 32. Similarly with the PSD - West Coast, Richmond and Essendon would no doubt be interested, could meet his contract and could have picks before us. Would he leave Geelong with no guarantee where he's going to end up?

He just says he wants to play with us and enters the PSD. PSD draft order means squat.

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We'd have to take him at pick 49 or 53 in the National Draft, but he'd still take up a spot on the list.

Why wait for the PSD when someone else might get him first?

If we want him, 53 would be too early for any other team to even consider him.

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We'd have to take him at pick 49 or 53 in the National Draft, but he'd still take up a spot on the list.

Why wait for the PSD when someone else might get him first?

If we want him, 53 would be too early for any other team to even consider him.

Why would he nominate for the National draft? Just go into the Preseason draft...?

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He just says he wants to play with us and enters the PSD. PSD draft order means squat.

I don't think you understand how it works. If a good young ruckman is there in the PSD West Coast, Richmond or Essendon will pick him - he can't say he wont play there - that's draft tampering, and he wouldn't be able to price huimself outside their TPP. The only thing that would stop them is if they committed to someone else e.g. Houli or there was a better player. We could have taken Luke Ball at ND18 last year if we wanted to.

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I don't think you understand how it works. If a good young ruckman is there in the PSD West Coast, Richmond or Essendon will pick him - he can't say he wont play there - that's draft tampering, and he wouldn't be able to price huimself outside their TPP. The only thing that would stop them is if they committed to someone else e.g. Houli or there was a better player. We could have taken Luke Ball at ND18 last year if we wanted to.

I seem to remember these things being worked out through the contract payment method & to dissuade the others.

Maybe it could be done, If we wanted him.

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It's very simple.

Assuming we delist PJ & McNamara, we will either have picks 12, 32, 49 & 53 in the ND, OR we will have picks 12, 32, 49 and a pick in the PSD about the middle of the order.

We will have no other room on our list to bring in West.

If we want him, why not take him at pick 53, which is higher than any club would normally consider him, rather than leaving him for the PSD where another club could easily trump us?

Fwiw, I can't imagine we want him at all & when I had a chat to Caracella the other day he didn't exactly speak glowingly of him.

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Wonder if any change in Wests thinking with Scott appointed? Probably get more chances with him .. Just a thought

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I don't think you understand how it works. If a good young ruckman is there in the PSD West Coast, Richmond or Essendon will pick him - he can't say he wont play there - that's draft tampering, and he wouldn't be able to price huimself outside their TPP.

Didn't Chris Tarrant say that if Fremantle won't trade him to Collinwood then he will enter the PSD, and if a team picks him up he will retire if that team isn't Collingwood?

Isn't that draft tamperting?

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Didn't Chris Tarrant say that if Fremantle won't trade him to Collinwood then he will enter the PSD, and if a team picks him up he will retire if that team isn't Collingwood?

Isn't that draft tamperting?

No he said he would think about retiring if he couldn't get a trade to collingwood.

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Didn't Chris Tarrant say that if Fremantle won't trade him to Collinwood then he will enter the PSD, and if a team picks him up he will retire if that team isn't Collingwood?

Isn't that draft tampering?

Somewhat. They do this to ward off other teams and try to get the deal done between the two clubs. The Luke Ball case was another instance in which the Saints didn't want to deal and lost Ball for nothing. Luke Ball didn't want to talk to any clubs in the lead up to the ND, preferring to get to pick 30 for the Pies - the club of his choice.

Freo did the best thing for themselves in my view.

The AFL's view is the player risks getting picked up in the draft to a club not of the player's choice if a deal isn't struck.

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I thought there was some kind of unwritten agreement where if a player wanted to go to a particular club and enters the PSD then other clubs would let him be. Maybe I live in fantasy land.

No doubt about it - clubs prefer to employ players that want to play for them. So by "default" the unwritten agreement would hold true, especially if you have not engaged in conversation with the player. Its almost like the "first steps to free agency".

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