joeboy 3,193 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 My son's football team had a guest coach tonight who was asked to name the hardest opponent he'd ever encountered on the football field . He answered , Cameron Bruce , and his name was Brad Johnson - The Bulldogs' Brad Johnson .
Chook 15,068 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Not actually surprising. Cameron Bruce has smashed Johnno a few times. James Hird also regularly mentions Brucie when asked who his toughest opponents were. He gets a bad rap sometimes, but there are a lot of good things that Cameron Bruce can do on the field.
sylvinator 96 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Not actually surprising. Cameron Bruce has smashed Johnno a few times. James Hird also regularly mentions Brucie when asked who his toughest opponents were. He gets a bad rap sometimes, but there are a lot of good things that Cameron Bruce can do on the field. Unsurprisingly Cam Bruce has the most disposals on any MFC player this season... again. He goes out these days quite defensively and ussually does the job. He's a valuable member of the team, and perenially underated on this site. He's no longer a core player in teh team, but plays a nice role week in week out
Guest Rojik of the Arctic Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Cam's ability to find the ball, and to win the one on ones is superb. Unfortunately he doesn't possess a lightning handball or a laser kick so that tends to get highlighted. I've found it interesting that he disposes of it better when the team is on - maybe it is because he doesn't have to second guess his use and just aims at the first option. He is pretty badly treated by some of the posters for what is a small flaw in a very good package.
w00dy 146 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Bruce used to head down back and play on Johnno each time we played the doggies, similar with Hird... he was a star in his day... he's struggled at times to adapt to our new gameplan however, and has sold plenty of team mates into trouble on the half-back line with poor handpasses... however recent weeks has seen him get up the ground more, he's tagged some of the opposition's best players in O'Keefe and Power, and done a fantastic job... I really like him up on a wing, he struggles with the defensive pressure applied to the forwards on the half back line...
dee-luded 2,959 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Not actually surprising. Cameron Bruce has smashed Johnno a few times. James Hird also regularly mentions Brucie when asked who his toughest opponents were. He gets a bad rap sometimes, but there are a lot of good things that Cameron Bruce can do on the field. I'm one who has knocked him, but, he is playing very well atmo. Has done for 6 weeks now. He's still iffy with his disposal but he's been more positive of late.
Gorgoroth 13,216 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 It's more when he is pressured he will sell his teammates with bad handballs and his kicking is woeful a fair bit these days. But his last month has been exceptional.
Jonesy's jokers 0 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 Is he going to the gold coast. Is it on the cards? would that be the best option for both partie? Personally id love to see him stay, because i think he has been and always will be red and blue through and through.
Hannabal 4 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 No news there. It's well known that Bruce has often touched him up.
P-man 13,367 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I've seen Johnson mention this in a couple of interviews before. Having players such as him and Hird list him amongst their toughest opponents speaks volumes. He looks like a man who is really enjoying his footy at the moment and, fortunately, I see him playing out his career at the MFC.
e25 5 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I think Bruce is a better defensive, negating type player, than he is damaging with the footy in his own hands. When answering this question players think about who has the capacity to make it hard for them to play their own game, not necessarily who beats them or who forces them to be more accountable.
Chook 15,068 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 I think Bruce is a better defensive, negating type player, than he is damaging with the footy in his own hands. When answering this question players think about who has the capacity to make it hard for them to play their own game, not necessarily who beats them or who forces them to be more accountable. Although one of the things that Hird used to say was that Bruce would beat you defensively, but also hurt you going the other way. That comment might surprise you now, but let's not forget that in his day, Cameron Bruce was pretty good.
Little Goffy 14,953 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 In his day, Cameron Bruce was damn good. He's still pretty good now. I've wavered back and forward this year because he has those gut-wrenching clangers... as mentioned, the handballing to teammates without thinking about their (terrible) situation, and the kicks going alle-oop. So I made a commitment to watch closely for a while and yeah, he works damn hard, he does a good job for the team, he has a great defensive work ethic and still manages bursts of attack. I think we are all harsh on him because there was a time, culminating in the string of BOGs right before the shoulder injury, back in 2005, where we thought he was gonna break through and be a serious, serious star. The missing player to shift our midfield up a notch and make us serious contenders instead of 'finals meat' from 2004-06. But he is a stalwart and deserves the same respect we have for guys like Doggy Brown or Rigoni.
P-man 13,367 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 There are few players I enjoy more seeing kick a goal than Cam Bruce. Not necessarily for the aesthetics..
jackaub 1,402 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 In his day, Cameron Bruce was damn good. He's still pretty good now. I've wavered back and forward this year because he has those gut-wrenching clangers... as mentioned, the handballing to teammates without thinking about their (terrible) situation, and the kicks going alle-oop. So I made a commitment to watch closely for a while and yeah, he works damn hard, he does a good job for the team, he has a great defensive work ethic and still manages bursts of attack. I think we are all harsh on him because there was a time, culminating in the string of BOGs right before the shoulder injury, back in 2005, where we thought he was gonna break through and be a serious, serious star. The missing player to shift our midfield up a notch and make us serious contenders instead of 'finals meat' from 2004-06. But he is a stalwart and deserves the same respect we have for guys like Doggy Brown or Rigoni. I watched the 2000 Elimination final v Carlton last night (I know "No life") in particular watched Bruce and Green tear the Blues apart. Both men are still playing with exactly the same im pact that they displayed on that memorable day Bruce is the type of player you have to actually watch to see the effect he has. Very very underrated- one of the greats of the Melbourne football team. Any body who bags him either hasnt been watching close enough or doesnt know anything about Football. Johnno and Hird know exactly what he is all about Well done cam Bruce
DemonWA 3,941 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 He's no longer a core player in teh team, but plays a nice role week in week out i've seen this "core" player term used in other threads and dont agree with its use. Cam Bruce may not be as good as he was a few season ago, but i would deffinatley say he's one of the core players on our list at the moment. I'd say that all of the more senior guys make up the core of the playing group/are the core of the team - Cam Bruce, Brad Green, Jimmy Mac, Riv, Beamer etc I remember a few seasons ago when Cam Bruce would have been a shot for the brownlow had he not gotten injured - absolute star in his prime He sat on our table at the Western Demons function earlier this year and he's a Great bloke too
buddha82 12 Posted August 3, 2010 Posted August 3, 2010 In his day, Cameron Bruce was damn good. He's still pretty good now. I've wavered back and forward this year because he has those gut-wrenching clangers... as mentioned, the handballing to teammates without thinking about their (terrible) situation, and the kicks going alle-oop. So I made a commitment to watch closely for a while and yeah, he works damn hard, he does a good job for the team, he has a great defensive work ethic and still manages bursts of attack. I think we are all harsh on him because there was a time, culminating in the string of BOGs right before the shoulder injury, back in 2005, where we thought he was gonna break through and be a serious, serious star. The missing player to shift our midfield up a notch and make us serious contenders instead of 'finals meat' from 2004-06. But he is a stalwart and deserves the same respect we have for guys like Doggy Brown or Rigoni. great post. agree with everything you said. we actually used to call him "Brownlow Bruce" back in the day, seems funny now. have been a big knocker of him throughout the season but has had a fantastic past month. hope he can keep it up because it's probably had a fair bit to do with us winning games.
H_T 3,049 Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 great post. agree with everything you said. we actually used to call him "Brownlow Bruce" back in the day, seems funny now. have been a big knocker of him throughout the season but has had a fantastic past month. hope he can keep it up because it's probably had a fair bit to do with us winning games. *BUMP* According to M.Stevens, Bruce has been asked to take a significant pay cut from his last contract: - AFL Clubs rush to secure stars...
Red and Blue Flame 242 Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 I think you'll find Cameron Bruce features in the top 5 of the MFC best and Fairest this year
beelzebub 23,392 Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 I'll happily go on record and say this has been a welcome return to great form for Bruce. I still have issue with his disposals but by and large a very good contributing year. Now speaking of contributing the club has lined his pockets rather handsomely for a few years now, even dare I suggest when it wasn't overly earnt . With Junior goingit might be wise to retain him for a year or two (2nd year no guaranteed starts ... Maybe not even first ) but he needs to understand a little bit of payback is needed via a salary cut. That seems fair enough; otherwise enjoy the Sun by all means!
jnrmac 20,364 Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 I'll happily go on record and say this has been a welcome return to great form for Bruce. I still have issue with his disposals but by and large a very good contributing year. Now speaking of contributing the club has lined his pockets rather handsomely for a few years now, even dare I suggest when it wasn't overly earnt . With Junior goingit might be wise to retain him for a year or two (2nd year no guaranteed starts ... Maybe not even first ) but he needs to understand a little bit of payback is needed via a salary cut. That seems fair enough; otherwise enjoy the Sun by all means! Return to form?? Have you checked his finish in the B&F over the past 10 years? That says the club ranks him very highly.
JACKATTACK 17 Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 *BUMP* According to M.Stevens, Bruce has been asked to take a significant pay cut from his last contract: - AFL Clubs rush to secure stars... With the silly season fireing up, our well publicised front ending of contracts and Bruce being asked to take a paycut. I would have thought Melbourne would be mentioned more in the media for us targetting players. It seems to be just Carlton and Essendon, and of course Gold Coast. I expect us to figure heavily in the player movement stakes this year even if we don't land one, but I don't think I have read anything.
mdemonski2 403 Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 I'll happily go on record and say this has been a welcome return to great form for Bruce. I still have issue with his disposals but by and large a very good contributing year. Now speaking of contributing the club has lined his pockets rather handsomely for a few years now, even dare I suggest when it wasn't overly earnt . With Junior goingit might be wise to retain him for a year or two (2nd year no guaranteed starts ... Maybe not even first ) but he needs to understand a little bit of payback is needed via a salary cut. That seems fair enough; otherwise enjoy the Sun by all means! Could be an interesting dilemma here. Sure you can say bruce owes us, he has been on a big three year contract and needs to take a pay cut. But if he is offered big beans to finish his career elsewhere, what happens? Kinda different to a regular job, but surely u have to look after your future in this case. Not sure brucey will still be round when our window opens anyway..if he goes well played brucey a great player esp consideeing he was selected as a late pick from melb high
DemonDave 1,099 Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 I wouldve thought, with Bruce able to be slotted onto the veterans list this year in place of McDonald, that a pay cut wouldnt be necessary, as we could simply continue to pay him the same amount, but half of it is now exempt from the salary cap. Of his B&F finishes, these are the ones I can find: 2001 - 9th 2002 - 2nd 2003 - 6th 2006 - 2nd 2008 - 1st 2009 - 3rd Not bad!
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