Demons make further changes

[beelzebub 23,379]

Dees make more changes

I'll put it here as it affects drafting and lists etc

the game's afoot

[beelzebub 23,379]

so exactly as has been purported by some Newton and Meesen , subject to not being drafted elsewhere will be rookied.

[beelzebub 23,379]

we now have 2 more spots with which to draft... 34 and 50 just came into play....hmmmmm !!!

[drdrake 3,178]

I would say 34 and PSD 1, so as it stands today Jamar, PJ and Martin are the ruckman on our senior list. It wouldn't supprise me if a club used a late pick to get Meesen, don't think anyone will be interested in Newton.

[beelzebub 23,379]

at teh risk of confusing myself.. i thought we now had 7 vacancies fillable..that would allow 1, 2, 11, 18, 34, 50 and PSD1

[jacey 333]

we now have 2 more spots with which to draft... 34 and 50 just came into play....hmmmmm !!!

Excellent news.

With only 8 months talent to choose from + GC having first 5 picks in rookie draft, this a good move.

Might as well use National draft picks then rookie picks.

With Rhys Healey, Jordie McKenzie, Daniel Hughes, Jake Spencer, Michael Newton, John Meesen, Jmac and Bruce, we've got our full quota of rookies.

1,2,11,18,34,50, PSD1. That's the stuff.

[JACKATTACK 17]

Completely unexpected, and flies in the face of many posters on here who didn't agree with the policy of delisting contracted players.

A good move by the club.

Edited November 10, 2009 by JACKATTACK

[torpedo 33]

It wouldn't supprise me if a club used a late pick to get Meesen.

Thought this myself and can't say I would be too happy with it. We've invested a pick, time & money into him, to lose him for nothing when I assume we have demoted him because of injury as much as form would sting. I wonder if clubs view all these players as fair game or if there is some expectation of co-operation.

[deestroyers 0]

at teh risk of confusing myself.. i thought we now had 7 vacancies fillable..that would allow 1, 2, 11, 18, 34, 50 and PSD1

Pretty sure you are right.

As is, removed from the primary senior list are: Robbo, Wheatley, Whelan, Newton, Meesen, Buckley. And Bruce elevated to veteran.

Therefore 7 picks. 1, 2, 11, 18, 34, 50, PSD1

Correct me if Im wrong.

[beelzebub 23,379]

Makes you wonder who the MFC is going to get to nominate for the ND ?? If , hypothetically you had a couple of semi-smokies...and wanted them.. you could take them earlier than many other clubs could afford to. Something of a risk.. but maybe workable. Its a gamble -undersstod.

[JACKATTACK 17]

Makes you wonder who the MFC is going to get to nominate for the ND ?? If , hypothetically you had a couple of semi-smokies...and wanted them.. you could take them earlier than many other clubs could afford to. Something of a risk.. but maybe workable. Its a gamble -undersstod.

Did you have anyone in mind?

Maybe Dylan Grimes

or Jurrah's cousin?

[beelzebub 23,379]

As i understand it... the rules allow for them (Meesen, Newton ) to be automatically rookied if no one selects them. We dont need to use any ND selections to retain them...( if still there ) This frees up all ND draft picks.. and we have free rein with PSD1.. Looking good

[Ingo 0]

does anyone know what the money situation is??

presumably, if we rookie them, then they play out their current contracts. But if someone else picks them up then are we forced to pay them out?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Thought this myself and can't say I would be too happy with it. We've invested a pick, time & money into him, to lose him for nothing when I assume we have demoted him because of injury as much as form would sting. I wonder if clubs view all these players as fair game or if there is some expectation of co-operation.

We gave pick 38 for him. And he has been at best ordinary at MFC and terrible at worst. He is currently with a LT ankle injury.

Why would any Club chase a player who after six years cant crack a game in even the worst club and has a body that cant handle AFL?

If he was not contracted in 2010 he like Newton would have been delisted this year.

[beelzebub 23,379]

Did you have anyone in mind?

Maybe Dylan Grimes

or Jurrah's cousin?

I suppose the romantic notion is Patrick. ( for one ) but as the MFC is want to do they keep all these lil secrets to themselves and only spring them come selection time. of course by then the list is out and any anomalies will be apparent. its about when other clubs can afford to use their choices.

Keep in mind 34 and 50 are our 5th and 6th choices..Some clubs are barely out of the starting blocks at 34 and would be looking at a different caliber/level/type of player with their first couple of picks. We might be able to claim them ( whoever they are ) before others have much of a chance.

We have looked and spoken to Patrick by all accounts

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

does anyone know what the money situation is??

presumably, if we rookie them, then they play out their current contracts. But if someone else picks them up then are we forced to pay them out?

They play out their current contracts as a rookie or at another Club. Check the mature rookie thread.

[beelzebub 23,379]

does anyone know what the money situation is??

presumably, if we rookie them, then they play out their current contracts. But if someone else picks them up then are we forced to pay them out?

As far as Meesen and Newton go they remain on their contracts...same money...just are on Rookie list and not the main. They would still need to be elevated to play ( as i understand it...and Im wrong sometimes.. )

[H_T 3,048]

Good list management we are witnessing.

[JACKATTACK 17]

As far as Meesen and Newton go they remain on their contracts...same money...just are on Rookie list and not the main. They would still need to be elevated to play ( as i understand it...and Im wrong sometimes.. )

wouldn't they have to be paid out of their contracts, then put on a Rookie contract? In which case financially they are better off.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

wouldn't they have to be paid out of their contracts, then put on a Rookie contract? In which case financially they are better off.

No.

[deestroyers 0]

wouldn't they have to be paid out of their contracts, then put on a Rookie contract? In which case financially they are better off.

No. If they are rookie listed, they maintain their original contract. They are not given another rookie contract on top of this.

[hoopla 418]

Great result... I'm delighted we now have 7 picks in the main draft - although its disappointing that we have no scope to rookie a young tall

I will have to accept my two "list cloggers" ie Bartram on the main list and Hughes on the rookie list

[sylvinator 96]

GC17 have the first 5 picks in the Rookie draft.

Pick 50 in the National draft > pick 6 in the rookie draft.

This is great list management.

Newton and Meesan both are very outside chances of becoming quality AFL players. Meesan more likely, but he is injured with stress fractures.

Drafting them in the rookie draft means we still these the possibility of them making it and the demons benefiting from that! Plus, now we get 2 more picks in the ND

[praha 11,240]

So in other words, Newton and Meeson will never play another game for the MFC.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't use pick 50 but took two players in the PSD, Thorp and McDonald.

Or if we did use pick 50 it may be for McDonald.