Tom Swift

[45HG 1,539]

A Selwood, at Geelong? Unthinkable

[Yencks 8]

i hope someone takes him before geelong because i agree with wolfmother, everyone will think that he is such a great pick up by geelong and that he should have gone pick 1 and that geelong are so good at recruiting, and there is nothing we can do about it...just like joel selwood all over again

[ChaserJ 3,985]

Here's a clue to Tom Swift's possible destination - NSW teen takes up Cats' scholarship offer

Read that this morning. I'd heard they were keen on him, along with the Kangaroos and St Kilda had been linked earlier. Of that lot I'd say Geelong are in best position to 'take a chance' on a talented player with injury concerns. That said, I still think they could stand to pick up a key position forward, so it would be interesting to see how they'd pick if Johnstone or McKernan were around at this pick.

November 29 can't come quick enough for me!

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Trengove could be an option for them as well.

Could fill full back in a few years when Scarlett goes, but also play as a forward.

[ChaserJ 3,985]

Trengove could be an option for them as well.

Could fill full back in a few years when Scarlett goes, but also play as a forward.

True. I could see he and Lisle going at this point in the draft. You'd think Hawthorn would be interested in these two as well.

[Jarka 767]

Jarka,

I'm pretty sure Hannabal invented footy, so its a sure bet he invented youtube also.

LOL, you know him well

[deeflog 679]

2 serious knee injuries

Apparantly both from freak accidents, so im not concerned about them. Grab him for sure at 17

[The Red Fox 216]

Apparantly both from freak accidents, so im not concerned about them. Grab him for sure at 17

You're kidding right??

What knee injury isn't a "freak" accident? Be it an awkward landing, player falling on you etc...

The relevant point is not how he inured himself, but how he's recovered since sustaining the injuries.

[LeBron James 41]

What knee injury isn't a "freak" accident? Be it an awkward landing, player falling on you etc...

David Schwarz's weren't freak accidents IMO

BTW Swift only did one ACL, the other one was a PCL (?) which isn't as bad.

[grazman 6,613]

David Schwarz's weren't freak accidents IMO

BTW Swift only did one ACL, the other one was a PCL (?) which isn't as bad.

First one probably was. IIRC His foot got stuck in a hole in the ground the team were using to train on and his knee popped.

[Guest Schtacker]

considering the existence of our club is at stake I'd prefer we picked one of the other dozens of 'future stars' in this draft that haven't had 2 knee operations

we are a club that just has to get every pick right - we just don't have the luxury of risking anything

[Guest Schtacker]

First one probably was. IIRC His foot got stuck in a hole in the ground the team were using to train on and his knee popped.

whether it was by accident or whatever has nothing to do with the fact it has probably tarnished him as a player and increased the likelihood of him missing big amounts of footy throughout his career

this would be pretty obvious I would have thought

[Eastie Boyz 0]

For every Muston there's a Selwood etc etc

He tested well at the draft camp so why do you think his career is 'tarnished'?

[dee-luded 2,958]

Apparantly both from freak accidents, so im not concerned about them. Grab him for sure at 17

The guy (Swift) in the U-16 video looks more advanced physically than his peers, bigger, stronger, & also carrying some puppy fat. He also appears to me to be just cruising around, not pushing his limits. He appears more physically advanced than his fellow players were at that time. How much of an advantage this gave him back then, who knows, that is my concern.

he looks like he understands the game, but how hard a worker he is on his game & how hard he works to develope his body & fitness???

He reminds me of Derek Kickett.

[MikeAlphaTango 150]

[Eastie Boyz 0]

The guy (Swift) in the U-16 video looks more advanced physically than his peers, bigger, stronger, & also carrying some puppy fat. He also appears to me to be just cruising around, not pushing his limits. He appears more physically advanced than his fellow players were at that time. How much of an advantage this gave him back then, who knows, that is my concern.

he looks like he understands the game, but how hard a worker he is on his game & how hard he works to develope his body & fitness???

He reminds me of Derek Kickett.

He's grown considerably in the last couple of years to get to 192cm, and a couple of the recruiting guys have said he has a fantastic attitude and work ethic

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,370]

Looked very impressive, but we have to remember that was an U16's clip.

Would be happy with him at #17 or #19.

[Late Draft Pick 48]

He doesn't look 192cms to me, in that interview with him.

However, if he has in fact grown to 192cms

I don't see that as a positive. He was a ball magnet when he was

a few centimetres shorter but now he has moved into a different category

of player which throws some doubt on to exactly what we would be getting.

The comment that he hasn't really played any great games since he came back from

his injuries adds to the doubt in my mind, a mind that was hell bent on him falling to 17 only a week ago.

[Eastie Boyz 0]

How is growing a negative lol?

I'm sure if Adam Goodes was 192 instead of 195cm for example it wouldn't make a great deal of difference in how he plays.

[e25 5]

He doesn't look 192cms to me, in that interview with him.

However, if he has in fact grown to 192cms

I don't see that as a positive. He was a ball magnet when he was

a few centimetres shorter but now he has moved into a different category

of player which throws some doubt on to exactly what we would be getting.

The comment that he hasn't really played any great games since he came back from

his injuries adds to the doubt in my mind, a mind that was hell bent on him falling to 17 only a week ago.

Yeah... sorry mate, but i don't understand how being slightly taller is a BAD thing.

Please explain?

[Late Draft Pick 48]

Yes, interesting one Eastie.

At one end end it makes a difference (Goodes wouldn't want to be much shorter.)

But at the other end? Remember Troy Simmonds? When he came to us (and I am using a poor memory here) he was a former on baller(or at least a good possession winner) a few centimetres shorter who had now grown somewhat,

(and yes some of us were drooling) (and I think he had spent some time out of footy).

Anyhow, this all meant he was still a very versatile big man when we got him, but we weren't getting an onballer.

And I have cooled, knowing that with Swift I was hoping for a very creative high possession onballer (that he still may become for all I know).

But while I have cooled I wouldn't mind the Footy Dept picking him knowing that know what they're doing.

[Late Draft Pick 48]

Yes Shaft, I don't know how tall he was when he was racking up all those stats

but once you're are getting to 192 it's very possible you may not be the same sort of player.

Not one anyway to be doing the sorts of things I am seeing some of these other onballers do.

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Players don't just 'lose' their ability cos they grow a couple of inches - Simmonds still has all the physical attributes of a midfielder (speed and endurance). He's just not a midfielder.

And on Goodes: He could be 2 inches shorter and he's still be a hard running, skillful midfielder who's hard to match up on.

*edit* Just noticed your reply to Shaft:

Hasn't stopped Franklin being capable of more at ground level than 90% of AFL players, and he's grown from about 6'4" to 6'6" since joining Hawthorn.

[Late Draft Pick 48]

Yes but we should be able to get a player with speed and endurance, or with Simmonds' onball skills, at 51 (lol)

[Late Draft Pick 48]

But a little more seriously from me, its not the differnece between 194 and 196 but

the one that worries me is 187 - 192