Robert Warnock

[Jaded No More 59,536]

So if his former coach in Connolly is prepared to deal then I assume you think that he's either stupid, doesn't have the Club's best interests at heart, or is a horribly poor judge of talent.

I don't for a second doubt that we should have courted him or shown interest, not at all. However, initially I don't think the club thought it would cost us so much to get his services.

Now that the scum of the earth from Carlton have got involved, it appears that Warnock's price has over-inflated, and I'd be happy to see us walk away and not fall into Carlton and Freo's game.

We've been sucked into players' demands too many times in the past. I'd hate to see it happen again.

By the way, Freo were/are the masters of bad trades and player pick-ups...

[beelzebub 22,506]

We've been sucked into players' demands too many times in the past. I'd hate to see it happen again.

Yes..but more often than not at the blunt end of their careers..not the "promising potential" moment !!

By the way, Freo were/are the masters of bad trades and player pick-ups...

So surely this is something to have been pounced upon....if they are so poorly at such things??

still..another day..and another... umm..another...umm.. not a lot really !!

[Freddy Fuschia 666]

Yes..but more often than not at the blunt end of their careers..not the "promising potential" moment !!

So surely this is something to have been pounced upon....if they are so poorly at such things??

still..another day..and another... umm..another...umm.. not a lot really !!

I guess we'll see what sort of deal Carlton and Fremantle finally work out. The Dockers have been screwed by most clubs in past trade deals ... let's see if they've learned anything.

If they settle for just pick # 24, the whole football world will be laughing.

[beelzebub 22,506]

If they settle for just pick # 24, the whole football world will be laughing.

Carlton wont be !!

Once Warnock nominates his intentions...Freo can only hope to get the best they can. This despite the rhetoric of Bond etc was never going to be much more than Carlton will give.

Freo were never going to get a low pick of off us... a very outside chance that #19 in my estimation may have been mooted had the chance occured....not much different to what they wil get

Given Freo may have got nothing...it could have been worse

[Courtney_Fish 183]

Am I correct in saying no deal has been done yet?

[Guest unstable punt]

Am I correct in saying no deal has been done yet?

hasn't been done but who cares, they can have him, their absolute fools to pay him $400k a year :lol: :lol:

[deestroyers 0]

Nothing is done yet. Dont know where Greg Denham gets off, but he definately hasnt nominated Carlton.

Clinton Young his manager is heading over to Melbourne next week to entertain formal offers from us and Richmond.

See story below - they want a first round pick. We are in the hot seat, as personally I cant see Carlton trading pick 6 or Richmond trading pick 8.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...3-19742,00.html

[Deeman 1,425]

See story below - they want a first round pick. We are in the hot seat, as personally I cant see Carlton trading pick 6 or Richmond trading pick 8.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...3-19742,00.html

... or us pick 1.

[deestroyers 0]

... or us pick 1.

Thats a given. But our pick 17 and 19 are better than the second picks of Carlton (24) and Richmond (26).

And better still, our pick one in the PSD.

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

yeah but the deal might be pick 1 for warnock and pick 3

and perhaps if they want something else, chuck in Jamar.

[Redleg 38,187]

Trade could go something like this:

1. Warnock (Freo) --> Carltank

2. pick 6 (Carltank) --> Filth

3. Didack (Filth) --> Adelaide

4. Griffen (Adelaide) --> Freo

Or it could go some thing like this:

Warnock to Carlton

Griffen ( Adelaide ) home to Freo.

Fisher ( Carlton ) to Adelaide.

Pick 24 ( Carlton ) to Freo.

Or Warnock could go elsewhere.

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

that article in the sun today though hinted at freo wanting the best deal out of it because Warnock was in their future plans, and the same goes with Mundy- two young up and comers. the article suggested that they would be meeting with us and richmond, so if we put forward a good deal- robbie might not have a say!

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

nick stevens esque, if he falls thro to PSD as well!!!

[Yencks 8]

yeah exactly...

i dont want him that much and am not keen on the club to pay him $400K a year...

however, we still hold all the cards

i'd be happy with

Pick 1 to Freo

Pick 3/Warnock to Melbourne

i dont however, want to lose a top 20 pick and would be utterly [censored] off if we lost pick 17 or 19 (or another gained top 20 pick) to those wanchores

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

yep

wouldnt trade pick 17 or 19 for anything, so in trading pick 1 for 3 and warnock we havent lost anything- and maybe chuck jamar in as well cos we can lose him the dud

we need to trade as well to get another top 20 pick

[furious d 447]

Carlton are by no means over the line. Warnock isn't Judd. Just because he prefers the cheating scum doesn't mean he'll end up there. Freo will want the most they can get and pick 17 or 19 are both better than 24 or 26. We need to stay in the hunt, if only to ensure Carlton pay through the nose for him. Pick 24 and a decent player at least to match our 19.

Carlton have hoarded top draft picks for years and I'd expect them to be one of our contenders during our next tilt at the pointy end of the ladder in 4-5 years, we can't start laying down to them already.

[timD 994]

It is interesting about the Australian...has prevously reported suppossed facts that have had stuff all basis about melbourne...I think Denham is a blowhard

[Tony Tea 2,792]

It is interesting about the Australian...has prevously reported suppossed facts that have had stuff all basis about melbourne...I think Denham is a blowhard

Nostradenham: for the last two seasons Denham confidently predicted Melbourne would make the Eight.

Not that that has anything to do with inside info.

Or does it?

Hmmm.

[beelzebub 22,506]

aaahh got to love trade week...and it hasnt even started !!! lol

Yes..Carlton arent over the line yet

Yes ..Freo wants to play hard ball

Yes..an outside chance Warnock may yet end up a Dee

however.

The real choice for Freo..is to take pick 24 off of Carlton..and maybe some other peripheral chicanery or risk Melb picking him up for free.

Without doubt the Melb negotiators will ( if sensisble ) wait for the initial stalemate to occur...then slip in a temptor !!

It still aint over til its over type thing, but I wouldnt get any hopes up !!..Its just two teams playing with their antlers !!

[Hannabal 4]

It still aint over til its over type thing, but I wouldnt get any hopes up !!..Its just two teams playing with their antlers !!

Unless Freo and the Dees collude.

[beelzebub 22,506]

Unless Freo and the Dees collude.

Given the histories of the three clubs, Melb, Carlton and Freo..and their abilites and successes at hardball and shiftylike negotiating; who are you going to put money on winning this one ??

Im not putting mine on us !!

[Guest unstable punt]

It is interesting about the Australian...has prevously reported suppossed facts that have had stuff all basis about melbourne...I think Denham is a blowhard

your right because this article says he is still open to offers............http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24341303-19742,00.html

[beelzebub 22,506]

Freo's hardline on Robert Warnock

try this link.

[Jaded No More 59,536]

$1.6mil over 4 years = insane

His perceived worth seems completely disproportionate to his achievements thus far. Potential is not worth $1.6 million.

[H_T 2,941]

$1.6mil over 4 years = insane

His perceived worth seems completely disproportionate to his achievements thus far. Potential is not worth $1.6 million.

Quite right. Insane Indeed. $1m over 3 years I think should be the right market price.