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Just wanted to say I thought those Jumpers looked outstanding tonight. Good bit of nostalgia with that logo representing the Dee's of my childhood. Looking forward to my jumper arriving this week. We've put together some cracker jumpers recently including all the indigenous designs as well as the MFC insignia one. Think my new Covid lockdown hobby is to collect them all and frame them. Not sure my girlfriend will be happy when I put them up all over the house

So he has, I tried to look it up on the AFL website but seems to be missing a few rounds. The whole site is a dogs breakfast and difficult to navigate.

Out: Jetta, Hunt In: Hibberd (Lockhart if not fit), Harmes (to play solely as a mid-forward rotation) Can't see us putting Jackson in off a 6-week injury and no match fitness while Brown has pulled his weight and deserves to stay there for now. I love Jetta and how he has forged his career but sadly I think the game has gone past him now. He also feels incredibly injury prone at the moment, perhaps a testament to how hard and courageous he is. But I can't remember a game in recent memory where he hasn't been injured throughout a game and spent time in the hands of the trainers.

Hope he gets it but Tom Green had 30 disposals with 20+ contested with the AFL site listing him as their best player. Rivers thoroughly deserves a nomination however I can see it going Green's way. Regardless, it's obvious that we've found a gun kid here. Has looked the part since his debut, even the commentators were big wraps for him. I'm going to one-up you Dazzle and say I've claimed him since before the draft. When it became certain that we would overlook Young I was hopeful we would pick him up. All from a couple profile reviews and two minute highlights tape mind you but I'll claim it nonetheless Now to extend his contract for another 3 years.

Mines still awaiting fulfillment, looking forward to it! I wonder how they plan on running the draft experience as well. Aren't they playing in this jumper as well this weekend? Edit: it appears on close examination my name isn't on the jumper either, disappointing. 2nd Edit: chance it could be on the back of the jumper.

I'm not too keen on the idea of Jack leaving the club, but if we were to leave and we secured a pick between 8-10 for him, we could end up in a great position to trade for Papley. If that is the end result I think our team would be better for it.

My gut feel was the mass changes last week was a result from the match committee finally realising that, in spite of the players being fitter than ever, they are still fatiguing off short turn-arounds and require rest. We then overcompensated by changing a third of the squad in the hope of fresh legs winning us the game and subsequently bring in VFL standard outside runners into a rainy, windy contested game. As for this week, I kind have given up caring what happens at the selection table. Just want to see some development and promising signs from our young players and hope Jordan gets a chance when/if fit.

I believe Werridee has a copyright on publishing best 22's. Did you get his permission before starting this thread?

Without taking Moonshadow's post as gospel it's not that hard to envisage Jack not being happy this year. After the year we've had in addition to last year, I think we are at high risk of losing some players we may want to keep. Brayshaw to Fremantle is one I've regularly seen pop up over the internet that I've been dismissing as bs. However, after being played on the wing for the majority of the season and seemingly spending more time on the bench than in the middle in some games, it's not hard to see him wanting to move as well. We hold the whip here with two years to go on his contract, but he hasn't exactly had the form that would see us demand a first rounder for him. Goodwin will have a lot to answer for if he has convinced the board and coterie members that we have the list to challenge for a flag only to miss finals and then lose two starting 18 midfielders with 100 odd + games experience. Has the potential to be devastating for our club. Or, if we are smart.... this could be our moment to revitalise our list like Port did circa 2017, losing Wingard and bringing in Rozee, Duursma and Butters as well as Burton through trade. Although I can't say I have much faith in what is happening at the club at the moment for us to pull something like this off, particularly in this compromised draft. Question for anyone that knows, if Jack happened to receive and leave on an offer worthy of band 1 compensation (after our first pick), does it matter that we've traded it out to North or will it slot behind that pick?

Norf supporters.

Out: Preuss, Sparrow In: Gawn, Rivers Rivers should never have been dropped in the first place. Put him into the half back role and have Harmes run through as the 5th midfielder splitting his time in the forward half.

Maybe this is more out of hope than anything else but I reckon Tom is on the improve and was close to clunking a few marks in dangerous spots. Wouldn't be surprised if his form picks up over the next few weeks and kicks a few. While no where near his best from 2018, he's contesting in the air a lot better and he's timing his run and jump at the ball much better as well. Can only hope that him and Weideman are starting to understand and work well with each other in the forward line. Having said all that, it is clear that we need to start planning a long term KPF partnership with Weideman post McDonald. If it's not Petty then I imagine we will have to look at trade or the draft.

I wonder if we have a solution for this on our list in Mitch Hannan. He has the attributes to be a good winger with speed, height and ability overhead and he is often clean with the footy with a neat kick on his left. The question mark would probably be his endurance base to cover the ground back and forth like Langdon does. Currently the main issue I have with his game is that he often goes missing at length and I think that isn't helped by playing in our forward 50 where we have similar mid sized forwards in Melksham and Fritsch that are often used as hit up targets. Perhaps Hannan to a wing could improve our dynamic in the forward half while solving our outside run and spread? Worth a shot at least in my view.

I wouldn't mind if we had a look at the following players. Zac Fisher - only recently back into their team and has played just the 3 games this year. Has pace, unsure on his skill execution but seems decent based on the limited stuff I've seen of him. Lochie O'brien - Hasn't played a game all year, don't believe he is injured but may be wrong about that. This one is more from memory of him being a reputed excellent kick on his preferred left and playing that outside role. Perhaps he has other limitations preventing him from cracking into their senior team? Former pick 10. Paddy Dow - Former pick 3 with pace, has only played the one game this year and is not listed as injured or named in the team/emergencies. Not sure whats going on here? Perhaps returning from injury? Darcy Tucker - Has spent most of this year injured I believe but is a Vic boy and might want to return home from freo. Excellent distributor of his left. Freo would ask for more than we could give most likely. Xavier O'Halloran - fighting for a spot in a stacked GWS midfield. The limited stuff I've seen of him indicated that he is a good kick of the footy and seems composed. Don't know too much more about him. Jye Caldwell - Seems highly rated in footy circles and has been speculated on here a few times as well. Again will face an uphill battle trying to permanently crack into their best 22, particularly with Green to be developed in the coming years as well. Ian Hill - Small forward from GWS, compliment Kozzie in the other pocket?? Jeremy Sharp - Going by the "inside the draft" video we seemed to be hoping GC would take him to allow Rivers to be free for us, perhaps indicating that we don't rate him? Or perhaps we simply rated Rivers higher and would be keen on acquiring Sharp to join former teammates Jackson and Rivers. Predominant outside winger. In his first year so would more be one to be on the radar for the future. Brayden Fiorini - Used to really rate him, seemed to be carrying GC midfield along with Swallow over the past few season. Now appears out of favour. Might want to return to Vic if he sees limited opportunities? Mathew Ling - Spent most of his first two years at the Swans injured, debuted this year and played three consecutive games before being dropped. Lefty with pace. I don't watch a heap of games outside the dees so some input or feedback about some of the players from either their junior days or AFL exposure would be welcome. I've tried to target players that can play that outside/wing type role and looked at ones that, in theory, wouldn't cost greatly. I also am largely unaware of their contract status.

Would be nice to get an update on Petty. Surgery was close to two months ago and haven't heard anything since. Hopefully he is progressing in rehab and on track to tackle day 1 of preseason. I believe he's out of contract as well so would be good to sign him up before Adelaide come sniffing.

Well damn, looks like I won't be getting any more points.

I liked it as well. Nice bit of content for fans to enjoy in this strange season. For those that don't know they've actually done 4 of these videos now starting from round 6. I would say that someone in the social media team read the room and thought fans were furious about our Port Adelaide game and held off producing the next video until they could show something in a more positive light. Here's the other videos for those that are interested. Round 6 vs Gold Coast Round 7 vs Hawthorn Round 8 vs Brisbane

That's terrific, thanks for the detailed response Rusty. You must have put countless hours into these stats, posters such as yourself that produce high quality work make Demonland worth reading. Think it's time I paid for a subscription to Demonland. Isolation would be so much worse without this forum.

Apologies Rusty if this has already been explained but where are these numbers derived from? I could be a bit daft but I can't make any sense of these random numbers without context. What stats combine to create a weighted score? Is it a combination of effective disposal, metres gained, score involvements etc...? Is there a bench mark figure for what players should be attaining? Is it affected by position, i.e will mids will have a higher number due to overall possession numbers but dour defenders and pressure forwards score lower. For example would that mean a "good" score for a mid might be >3 where as a small forward >1? What are the poor, average, good benchmarks for players and positions across the league and across and how do our players compare? Apologies again and I'm certainly don't expect you to do the leg work in some of those questions I asked, just trying to wrap my head around the theory behind the numbers.

That's my train of thought as well.

Surely its just a reference to when that game will be scheduled, not in addition to. If we have another compressed part of the fixture then my read is that we will play Essendon in either round 14, 15 or 16. Still just playing three games while other teams have their "byes."

Well, 90% of Adelaides preparation to date for our game has probably gone to waste. That's probably the only positive that I can see.

In: AVB, Bennell, Tomlinson, ANB Out: Jackson, Pickett, Jones, Hannan I like the kids, but with a heavy workload block in their first year they will probably be due for a break. Jones seems ineffectual if he's not in the guts, sad to see but I not sure where I would slot him into our team. Hannan can have some great cameos and apply good pressure, but far too often he goes missing for significant portions of the game. Brayshaw and Harmes very lucky. As is 90% of our list from the Port game to be honest. Rivers, Smith and Jetta could/should be considered for an extra back rotation. My preference would be Rivers. Also wouldn't be surprised if Jones stays and Sparrow gets the chop, although I hope for his sake he gets some continuity and doesn't become a scapegoat when all the senior players around him failed so badly.

Is it too much to ask for a competitive game week in week out?