Nascent

Don't know. None of the winners from rounds 1-3 in either "mark of the year" or "goal of the year" have been announced. Last year, the website displayed the winners after each round and even included a percentage of the votes as well. This year, in their infinite wisdom, they have only named the random citizen that has won the weekly prize through the sponsors for voting for the winner.

I don't understand how there could not be clarity of what is and isn't banned. One would assume that Bates would be putting his medical license in jeopordy by overseeing the use of substances not yet approved for humans. Either everything is above board, or there have been some bloody stupid decisions made by the doctor.

I haven't actually seen anything to suggest that these club officials were from North... The only link that I can see that they have to this scandal appears to be the fact they used to employ Bates.

Players listed all under 50 games of experience (note: 1st group are players I believe will become solid best 22 players, 2nd group I hope will push up in the coming months/years) PLAYER AGE GAMES Jimmy Toumpas 19 3 Dean Terlich 23 3 Jack Viney 19 4 Matt Jones 25 4 Max Gawn 21 5 Michael Evans 20 6 Sam Blease 22 23 Tom McDonald 20 25 Luke Tapscott 21 32 Rohan Bail 24 38 Jeremey Howe 22 39 *Jesse Hogan 2nd group Dom Barry 19 0 Dean Kent 19 0 Rory Taggert 19 0 Josh Tynan 19 2 Jack Fitzpatrick 21 3 Jake Spencer 23 16 James Strauss 22 18 Daniel Nicholson 22 22 The following players are either rookies, players that I don't rate or that haven't seen enough of yet... will be happy to be proven wrong Tom Couch James Magner Cam Pederson Tom Gillies James Sellar Troy Davis Mitch Clisby Nathan Stark 27 of our listed players have not yet reached 50 games

From the MFC statement "The program also made reference to a cream which is not prohibited under ASADA and WADA guidelines." Trengove was directed to pick up a cream at a pharmacy so I highly doubt he would be able to purchase anything over the counter that wasn't approved for human use. Furthermore, the article in the age wada-declares-obesity-drug-illegal- suggests that the anti-obesity drug that is banned was injected into players.

All quotes from Demetriou this morning on 3aw. "If there was an association, regardless of whether there has been an employment agreement, I think that would have been relevant to our briefings.'' Demetriou did not want to speculate on the ramifications for the club, but did say that Melbourne would have broken league rules if it was shown to have mislead the AFL about a relationship with Dank. "This issue of ethics and trust in our code ... is something that you can't play ping-pong with,'' Mr Demetriou said. "If anybody hasn't got the message that they must be absolutely truthful ... then there will be consequences.''

This just about sums up my feelings for the MFC at the moment.

For the masochists out there, would it also please you to know that we selected Barry as our GWS pre-listed player over Jed Anderson? Surely it won't be too long before we have a thread on that for a collective group whinge...

Just as an aside, was the Metallica song our "match day rev-up" clubs were supposedly going to introduce??

Sellar, Gillies and Tapscott are the first 3 out in my opinion. McDonald, Dawes (if fit) and Terlich to come in. I'm sure there will be more changes. Thankfully I'll be working next saturday night, couldn't handle another performance like today with my arrogant essendon mates.

Good young player, his history of hamstring injuries would have to be a concern though.

I'm not arguing that we were killed in the clearances or couldn't get it inside 50. In fact, I'm not trying to use stats prove or disprove how well we have played. All I'm saying is that you can't read stats and gain a full story of how a game has unfolded. An inside 50 could be a drilled/well placed kick from a midfielder onto the [censored] of a leading forward... or it could be a scruber kick/handpass (slightly inside the arc) directly to the opposition resulting in a rebounding attack. An "ineffective disposal" of Jones or Magner out of the centre circle may be a clearance kick under pressure that results in a another stoppage 50 metres towards our goal. Alternatively, an effective disposal could be a kick sideways or backwards that does nothing but waste 3 minutes at the end of a quarter.

Yep, stats don't provide context and rarely tell the full story.

Going by the stats we matched fairly evenly with the saints. Mel St Disposals 291 - 292 Clearances 25 - 29 Inside 50 44 - 38 Con Pos 97 - 107 Tackles 30 - 53

That's a fairly visceral reaction. I'd advise against watching any political news without a prescription for Odansetron or Metoclopramide.

Long road back "Taggert's kicking and decision making under pressure are considered key strengths, with the club nominating him as one of the best kicks at the club." Hope this kid can stay on the park and earn some senior game time this year.

Happy to see the players have a bit of fun, but that was quite possibly more embarrassing than or last 6 years.

My taste in metal is showing through but wouldn't mind a short intro song like below thats a bit eerie and sounds hard. Won't be accessible to a lot of fans I would think but would certainly pump me up pre-game.

Perhaps deegirl = caroline wilson??? Sorry deegirl, that was a shocking thing to say... please accept my contrite apology.

Wouldn't mind it if we picked up Luke Rounds.

Interesting observation that all four players that have now departed are stepping forward on their right foot, out of line with our current captain who is leading with the left. Conspiracy theorists.... GO!!!

Does anyone know if there is any footage of the draft online anywhere? I didn't get to watch it last night and would love to watch Todd calling out Jacks name, I reckon it would've been a special moment.

Awesome... might just contact the club and see if I can get my Scully/Barassi signed jumper exchanged for a Grimes/Barassi one. Then I can actually hang it on my wall again.

Adelaide draft bombshell I wonder how Crows fans feel about their club volunteering to give up their first 2 picks of this draft. This means our pick 49 has just become pick 48, get excited people. Moreover, pick 53 becomes pick 52... double win. Its almost as exciting as a double rainbow.