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I think they just copied and pasted exactly what Max sent in without anyone checking it.

The AFL would give him life membership for conceding such outrageous scores.

1970s fans, explain the Dennis Jones coaching regime to me. I've just started doing a research deep dive into 1978 and there's an almost Mark Neeld level of insanity going on. - He was appointed after three years out of senior coaching and had been sitting on the committee that presumably appointed him. Previous coaching experience with Prahran 15 years earlier (one losing second division grand final + one prelim), Central Districts seven years earlier (finals in the last of his four years) and West Perth in 1973/1974 (grand final in his first year, didn't make the finals in his second and left). I know he had more experience than a lot of people who got senior roles in that era but seems a bit jobs for the boys. - Ian Thorogood was one of his assistants after two years taking Carlton to 1st and 6th on the ladder. Seems like he'd have been a better option. Did he not want to take on another senior job? - Bob Skilton was reported to be one of the lowest paid coaches in the league, then Jones was said to be one of the highest. My reading of the situation is that he became one of the few full time coaches in the league because he had to give up a good job to take the role. A precursor for the next few years where we'd try and buy everyone in sight. - Immediately banned players from wearing thongs, t-shirts or tracksuits. - Fell out with Laurie Fowler twice (which to be fair to Jones was apparently not hard to do), causing him to quit the club both times before quickly coming back. - Presided over the most insane scoring I've ever seen, including: Conceding 100+ points in 20 of 22 weeks, 150+ five times and +140 another three times Losing 68-147 (!) in Round 1, winning 167-57 (!!) in Round 2, then five weeks later losing 141-204 (!!!!!!!) Losing 12 in a row in the middle of the year, including kicking 2.14.26 against Carlton and publicly describing it as the worst game he'd ever seen - Spent much of his time complaining about umpiring - Responded to nearly throwing away a big lead against Geelong with the playful statement "if we’d lost the game I would have cut their throats" - After losing to South Melbourne, Swans coach Des Tuddenham said we'd "run out of legs" and Jones said his side had "run out of ability" - Made the players sing the song in the visitors' dressing rooms of the Western Oval after their eighth 10+ goal loss of the season - When he said there was money for recruiting (though they didn't buy anyone worthwhile before the season) his philosophy was “if you get enough stones you’ll eventually smash a window”, which doesn't sound like the sort of person you'd put in charge of a budget - Celebrated a late season win by stomping on pamphlets handed out by a reform group that wanted to sack him. You can tell by the team list that they were trying to find new players, and he did try and lower expectations by all but saying (in contemporary language) that they needed to rebuild, but the new administration got in at the end of the year and he basically quit before he was sacked anyway. How was this appointment seen at the time, and what was the tipping point that led to fans turning on him? This is an era I'd like to learn more about, there's a lot of focus on the Barassi years but the 70s seem to be ignored. I'm sure those of you who lived through it will say that it's forgotten for a good reason.

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Unfortunately I believe it's all or nothing on the NT. I'd certainly chip in $20 but then you run the risk of not making back the money, them ditching the sponsorship on us when the club starts raising money against it and being skint anyway. God I hate being a poor club.

NT is crap no matter how hard the club tries to spin it but 50,000 x $5 will leave you about $1,000,000 short of what these games bring in. Factor in losing the permanent Queen's Birthday home game and dumping our pokies and there's a massive revenue gap to fill. Given that we made a slender profit last year one year of winning obviously wasn't going to be the answer.

Great moment when Jakovich randomly turned up to open the show in the late 90s. As a teenage Jakovich fanatic I was moved to jump over the back of my couch in celebration. Then off he went for another 20 years...

I couldn't care less about the politics one way or the other, but the idea that anyone would give a fat rat's clacker if we wheeled Burnside out as a fan is comical.

Do we get one pick (Nietschke) or two (Walker) in this mid-season draft? Seems NQR that you'd be allowed to pick a ready made player to replace a Category B rookie but with the AFL who knows. Wonder if there's any electric forwards in the mix? Helps take a chance on somebody unusual when you can chuck them 12 weeks later.

This is what I want to know. I don't want him in the side, but need to know who we'd fill his spot with or what we'd do with a non like-for-like player. Very willing to discuss alternatives. The idea of on-field leadership is great (if it's actually happening), but we're hardly original recipe GWS having to field Power, Cornes, Brogan and Junior to help the kids.

Smart bloke, would have won a flag. Like when Green could have gone to the Pies, stayed and spent the next three years as a scapegoat.

Good to know Caro got one last story out of the people who spent all of 2011-2013 leaking to her.

Didn't the Crows also get some mentalists to kidnap their players?

Welcome home!

Should at least get a game when we only have 22 fit players left by Round 10

I wanted him to get a game mid-season last year before he was injured but the #1 rule in life is never get seduced by the highlights tape.

Should have threatened them with a brutal camp again

The rest of the side is suffering intermittent fisting

The season is rooted anyway, there is nothing to be gained from making the club look like a 2012/13 style circus.

He can guide them in giving away petulant free kicks behind play.

Four weeks of being told how much we needed Lewis' leadership, then he unnecessarily decks a bloke inside 50 and concedes a free. The season is dead, give him a token assistant coach position until the end of the year and work on the future.

In any other circumstances I'd denounce the name Tigga, but in this case I really want them to play a game just for the novelty value.

Probably because they were champions of the club, not a fly-in fly-out player who gave the bare minimum service. I'd have him back if we needed a toilet cleaned.

As discussed in tonight's podcast, on demonwiki.org we've been compiling a list of all the MFC connected players who served in wars as well as the better known list of those who made the ultimate sacrifice. This stretches from the Boer War to the Korean War, and is very much a work in progress so if anyone can shed more light on the service of the players listed below please get in contact via the forum or [email protected]. Fortunately the format copies perfectly from the page (http://demonwiki.org/Players+who+served+during+war) to this forum, so here's the list. The * denotes a non-senior player (e.g. from a lower grade or trained with us without playing a game). A particularly interesting story is the Couve brothers, who both trialled in the 1912 pre-season but didn't play a game and were struck down just 15 days apart during the Gallipoli landings. Players who died during war First World War Player Date Location Jim Bonelli 24 May, 1918 France Cliff Burge 14 August 1918 Villers-Bretonneux, France Alan Couve 26 April 1915* Gallipoli, Turkey Henry Couve 8 May 1915* Gallipoli, Turkey Jack Doubleday 30 October 1918 Indian Ocean Bill Fischer 15 October 1917 Belgium [censored] Gibbs 19 July 1916* France Albert Gourlay 1 November 1918 England Mal Kennedy 2 January 1918 Belgium Frank Lugton 29 July 1916 Villers-Bretonneux, France Jim Mackie 20 March, 1917 Bapaume, France Bill Maxwell 12 October 1917 Passchendaele, Belgium Fen McDonald 25 April 1915 Gallipoli, Turkey Alick Ogilvie 18 August 1915 Malta Leo Rankin 10 May 1917 Wareham, United Kingdom Joe Pearce 25 April 1915 Gallipoli, Turkey Harold Rippon 16 January 1917 France Percy Rodriguez 20 March 1917 The Somme, France Bobby Royle 3 November 1916 France Alexander Salton 10 September 1916 France Alf Williamson 11 April, 1917 Bullecourt, France Second World War Player Date Location Sid Anderson May 20, 1944 Wewak, New Guinea Jack Atkins March 1, 1942 Sunda Strait, off Java Harold Ball February 9, 1942 Singapore Ron Barassi Sr July 31, 1941 Tobruk, Libya Laurie Brady 1 May 1944 Melbourne, Victoria Noel Ellis July 6, 1942 Queensland John Fraser June 1944* Canadian Rockies Clyde Helmer April 24, 1945 Aitapi, New Guinea Derek Mollison 19 December 1943 Rockhampton Ted Regan July 9, 1943 over Burma Beres Reilly July 23, 1943 over Crete Archie Roberts June 6, 1945 Ambon, Dutch East Indies Charles Stewart June 1942* former seconds player - killed in an aircraft accident A. Strang August 1942 Seconds player Keith Truscott March 28, 1943 accident at Exmouth Gulf, Western Australia Barney Wood June 9, 1941 Litani River, Syria Other players who served (List in development) Boer War Player Branch/Unit Jim Conquest Army (5th Victorian Mounted Rifles) Jack Godby Army Jack McIntosh Army Hugh Purse Army Lionel Smale Army First World War Player Branch/Unit Mick Anthony Army Charlie Armstrong Army Alexander Bennie Army Arthur Best Army (58th Battalion) Bob Bodington Army (10th Field Ambulance) Campbell Brady Army Laurie Brady Army (Australian Postal Corps) Jack Brake Army (8th Field Artillery Brigade) Jack Bristow Army (6th Battalion) Harry Britter Army (31st Battalion) Frank Brown Army Harry Bruce Army/Flying Corps Bill Brunier Army Claude Bryan Army Eddie Byers Army (44th Battalion) Bruce Campbell Army E. Canale Unknown Jack Cannan Army Bert Chadwick Flying Corps Eric Chisholm Army Graham Colclough Army Tim Collins Army (39th Battalion) Jack Connole Army Bob Corbett Army (29th Battalion) John Corby Army (54th Battalion and 5/29th Infantry Regiment) Edward Cordner Army (6th Australian Field Ambulance) Harry Cordner British Army Harry Cox Army (6/46th Infantry Regiment) Vic Cumberland Army (32nd Battalion) Frank Cummins Navy Peter Crystal Army* Vern Daniel Army Ernest Denton Army Eric Dimsey Army Fred Elliott Army (3rd Pioneer Battalion) Reg Ellis Army Bill Elston Army (39th Battalion) Alec Farrow Army (29th Battalion) Bill Fawcett Army (4th Machine Gun Company) Jack Evans Army Bill Flintoft Army (57th Battalion) [censored] Fowler Army Alex Fraser Army (10th Machine-Gun Company) Vin Gardiner Army (38th Refts. GSG) Mark Gardner British Army Alf George Army (Railway Division) Charlie Goding Army (Base Records Corp) Vic Gordon Army Archie Grigg Army (Signal Engineers 2nd Division) Henry Hagenauer Army George Haines Army (Sea Transport Staff) Johnny Hassett Army Cedric Hay British Army Bill Hendrie Army (59th Battalion) Phil Hosking Army Phil Hunt Army (3rd Pioneer Battalion) Frank Hurrey Army Syd Hutcheson Army (29th Battalion) Billy Irwin Army Les Irwin Army (13th Light Horse Regiment) Edwin Jenkyn Army (4th Battalion) Norm Jordan Army Arthur Kirk Army Clarrie Lethlean Army Charlie Lilley Army Leo Little Army and Flying Corps Fred Long Army (3rd Light Horse Field Ambulance) Frank Longden (pre-VFL) Army Medical Corps Rupe Lowell Army (18th AASC) Aubrey MacKenzie Army Charlie Mackay Medical Corps (British Army) Les MacPherson Flying Corps Jim Makin Army (9/21st Battalion) George Martin Army Frank McCooey Army Bill McCulloch Army Bill McIntyre Army (46th Battalion) Bill McKeone Army George McNeilage Army Algy Millhouse Army (32nd Battalion) Les Mitchell Army Bobby Monk Army George Moodie Army Jim Moore Army Vern Moore Army Bert Morris Army Harry Moyes Army Aubrey Neal Army Jack Nicholson Army Joe O'Carroll Army (37th Battalion) Hughie Odgers Army Basil Onyons Army Roy Park Army (5th Field Ambulance Unit) Bert Parke Army (16th General Service Reinforcements) Eric Parsons Army (22nd Battalion and 7th Australian Light Trench Mortar Battery) Laurie Paul Army Robert Ramsay Army Frank Richardson Army Harold Riggall Army Herbert Roberts Army Vern Rowe Army Tom Sadlier Army Albert Salkeld (Pre-VFL) Medical Corps Alex Salvado Army Jack Sheehan Army* Arthur Slater Army* Harry Smith Army* Tom Soutar Unknown* Cyril Steele Army Bill Stone Unknown* Wilfred Stott Army (8th Light Horse Regiment)* Charlie Streeter Army (8th Light Horse Regiment) Enos Thomas Army (8th Light Horse Regiment) Ted Thomas Army Hedley Tomkins Army (28th Battalion) Albert Treeby Army (12th Training Battalion and 46th Battalion)* Les Wallace Army Ivor Warne-Smith Army Jack Watt Army (Motor Transport Corps) Jack West Army (7th Infantry Battalion) Fred Whelpton Army (15th Australian Machine Gun Company) Reg Woodhouse Army Second World War Player Branch/Unit Aitken Army* A. Anderson Army* JC Ashdown Air Force* Bill Baxter Army (32nd Battalion) Des Bell Army George Bickford Navy Tony Bizacca Army Billy Blair Army (Postal Corps) Laurie Brady Army Jack Brake Army Arnold Byfield Army (5 Garrison Battalion and 2/11 Australian Infantry Battalion) Bruce Campbell Army Bert Chadwick RAAF Percy Cheffers Army* Lance Collins Army* (53 Australian Bulk Issues Petroleum and Oil Depot Platoon) Jack Compton Army John Corby Army (Various regiments) Denis Cordner Navy Don Cordner Navy Ted Cordner Navy Peter Cox Air Force* Bill Cutler Army C Cuttriss Unknown* Stan Dalley RAAF* Johnny Dalton Army (Land Headquarters Signals) Gerry Daly Army (7th Australian Infantry Battalion) Len Dockett Army (14/32nd Battalion) Jack Doherty Army (1n Ordnance) Harcourt Dowsley Army* Adrian Dullard Army (15th Field Ambulance) Roy Eliason Air Force* Dave Elliman Army Richie Emselle Army Owen Evans Army* Clive Fairbairn Army* Tom Ferguson Air Force Rowley Fischer Army (15th Field Ambulance) Bob Furler Air Force* Col Galbraith Navy Maurie Gibb Army (1n Ordnance) Les Gibbs Air Force Ian Giles Air Force Eric Glass Air Force Ray Grattridge Air Force* Ossie Green Army A. Greenaway Air Force* J. Griggs Army* Tom Guest Unknown * Ron Hall Army Frank Hanna Air Force Jack Heal Navy Stan Heal Navy Doug Heywood Air Force [censored] Hingston Army (15th Field Ambulance) Pat Hjorth Air Force* Don Hooper Army (Pay Corps) Bill Hulme Air Force* Syd Hutcheson Army (Southern Command AASC) Arthur Irvine Unknown* Gordon Jones Army Les Jones Air Force Les Jones (non-senior player) Army Ray Jones Navy GM Josua Unknown* Frank Kennedy Army Joe Kinnear Army (1n Ordnance) Allan La Fontaine Army/Air Force George Lenne Air Force B. Lindsay Army Wally Lock Army Harry Long Army John Lord Army (Transportation Branch) Mick Maguire British Army Jack Maher Air Force Jack McDonald Air Force* Shane McGrath Army Col McLean Navy Les Meade Navy Keith Molloy Unknown Bill Morris Army* (2nd Motor Division) Jack Mueller Army Laurence Muir Navy* Jim Munday Air Force* Bob Murray Navy* Don Nichols Air Force* D. Nissen Unknown* Danny Powell Air Force Jack Quinn Army Les Reeves Army R. Reid Navy* Alby Rodda Air Force Harry Salmon Army* Frank Scanlan Navy Ralph Shalless Air Force C. Smith Unknown* Len Smith Air Force Don Stewart Army* Bob Stone Navy Derek Symonds Army K. Taylor Unknown* Len Toyne Air Force Cliff Tyson Army Bill Vanthoff Air Force Darcy Walsh Air Force Ivor Warne-Smith Army Ron White Army Douglas Wight Navy* Colin Wilcox Air Force* Frank Williams Air Force Mac Wilson Army Mike Woods Navy Korean War Player Branch/Unit Geoff Collins Air Force

And watch bad teams get stomped in spectacular fashion like they used to in the VFA. Imagine if you took our 2012/13 teams and added even more open space on the ground - we'd have topped 186 and 190. The benefits when good teams play each other might be worth it, but there will be less than zero benefit for the people that watch their team lose by 25 goals each week. As for full ground 6-6-6 that is just dead-set insanity and anyone who thinks it's a good idea should have to undergo a urine test before posting.