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Ticketing for Rd 05 vs Hawthorn
george_on_the_outer replied to daisycutter's topic in Melbourne Demons
Tried to get MCC tickets yesterday. Got to payment page and it said credit card blocked, contact supplier.....It isn't and it wasn't. So can't buy tickets. So head off to Ticketek sellers. One in Exhibition st says their website. Get there. It's closed. Off to Atheneum. Fortunately open. Told my problem is not uncommon, and they are only an agency, so nothing they can do. No-one answers the phones at Ticketek. Paid for ticket with same credit card......Ticket sent to phone digitally, straight away. Then it prints out at the sellers terminal as well to the surprise of the agent. Friend who had bought our tickets last week got multiple messages during the game with repeats of the tickets we had bought and used to get into the ground. Let's hope this covid restriction ends soon, so we don't have to keep interacting with these clowns. -
CASEY DEMONS: Rd 01 vs Box Hill Hawks
george_on_the_outer replied to kieranbj's topic in Melbourne Demons
Laburnum station is 5 min walk from ground. Train to Richmond 20 minutes. -
Exactly Onion.....it's not pedantic either. A player doesn't get to 150 games unless they are any good. A player doesn't get to 150 games unless they are 26-28 years of age. Games played and age are the outcomes, not the reason. Does anyone seriously think that 22 Shaun Burgoynes ( of today) in the side will gurarantee a premiership? He's just not as good today as once. But he is older and has played more games...... The more good players you have in the side, the more likely you are to win a premiership. Simples!
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Have been trying to get a wheelchair seat for a Tridents member who is severley disabled i.e already has ticket 2nd level on the wing in that area. Application to Ticketek...no response for 2 1/2 days....finally they send one ( just one, he needs a companion seat as well) located bottom deck of Ponsford in GA!! In first game of season they didn't even reply to the request! Fortunately called the club, who arranged a wheelchair seat in the Tridents area. Fantastic effort by the Membership team, who have to cover for Ticketeks failures....again.
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Eddie's Bold Plan for 20 Team Comp
george_on_the_outer replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
Just what we need....another 2 teams who can't support themselves. $30M p.a. going to GWS, similar to GCS, with St.Kilda and North being held up by the AFL as well. With more teams on welfare, it just means less to be returned to grass roots levels, and the teams which are currently providing the income of the AFL. -
Loan System for Players to Swap Clubs
george_on_the_outer replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
How do you develop a young player in the game plans, tactics and developing relationships with team-mates and the club, when they are playing elsewhere? The whole reason for taking the Casey Scorpions under our wing was to ensure that our players were trained in the "Melbourne way" by Melbourne affiliated coaches, and playing in positions that suited their future roles at senior level. How would we feel when a "loaned" player is sent back onto the ground with a "niggle" which gets exacerbated and becomes more serious? Silly idea. -
The Tom Sparrow Made Me Cry Thread
george_on_the_outer replied to John Demonic's topic in Melbourne Demons
Razor Ray managed to get the even coin toss wrong in the Geelong -Hawks game. Selwood had to tell him it was a head not a tail. No improvement there. -
Exactly. Geelong play "rope a dope" and kick it short until they can punch into forward line. They did this to us last year, and the year before. We can't afford to bring in a player like Melksham who hasn't shown any desire to run and tackle and put pressure on the opposition.
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No...Hawthorn 2008, the Baby Bombers in the 90's, even Brisbane in the early 2000's. All young teams but loaded with talent such that they were able to win multiple premierships in subsequent years. Hawthorn and Geelong should have won the past 5 premierships if age and games played was the criteria.
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This is one of the old furphy's using statistics to form a conclusion after the event. Players don't get to play 150 games unless they are any good. They don't get to be 26 and still in the system for the same reason. The reason teams win premierships is because they have a sizable group of good players. It's as simple as that.
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Sam Reid gone for our match against the Giants: https://www.afl.com.au/news/573893/match-review-giant-banned-for-fyfe-ko-tiger-charged-for-ump-contact
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The low crowds are because of the way tickets are allocated under covid rules. 75% of the MCG is available, but not of the total seats. It is 75% of the MCC, 75% of AFL/Medallion club, 75% of reserved seats etc. So to use the AFL area at the MCG as an example ( I don't know its capacity but lets call it 20,000), that means 15K allocated. But there aren't 15,000 Richmond and Hawthorn AFL members. Let's be generous and say there are 10,000. That means 5,000 seats do not get sold, alongside the 5,000 unavailable....in that area alone. Now using our game when you put a side like Fremantle in the MCG. You would need nearly 15K Melbourne supporting AFL members to be there, just to fill up the allocation. At Marvel, the Medallion club ( only using a vague memory here) has 12,000 seats out of a total capacity of 50K. So only 9K can be sold. Not many fans can afford to buy one of those seats, and the same problem happens. So while we have AFL, MCC, Medallion club and reserved seating areas, we will continue to have unsold seats.( under the current method of allocating tickets). (...and reserved seating includes those areas of the ground that Ticketek/Ticketmaster allocate to themselves to sell at higher prices....it is why you can't find a GA ticket for your membership, but they will sell you one in their areas)
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Maybe because the AFL hasn’t locked in the fixture beyond R6. Can’t put it into a calendar when the game can be played somewhere between Thursday and Sunday
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But you have to subtract the Medallion club seats as well.
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I tried to get a ticket for a wheelchair friend who has a seat in the Tridents area. Put in application on the Tuesday before, and am still waiting for a ticket. I spoke with another wheelchair seated person, who put in an application on the Sunday before, and only got a ticket after calling the club on Friday. 45 minutes waiting for to talk to someone at Ticketek, only to be met by a " we don't have enough staff" recorded message. Call the club and then Ticketek offered a seat in general admission, despite them paying for Tridents membership, and having allocated wheelchair seats in that area. Again a call to the club who found them a seat in that area. At the game there were 3 unoccupied wheelchair seats in the area. Easy to get a ticket? Hardly. At the match the view across the ground was telling. People clumped together in bays, but then whole bays without a single individual. Top deck Ponsford ...no-one. Top deck Olympic...no-one. Yet if you wanted a seat Ticketek would sell you one in GA, even if you had a membership.
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Demonland Podcast Featuring Gary Pert
george_on_the_outer replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
And since 10 teams don't make the 8 then you have to be prepared for a "bad year' about 50% of the time. We lost $2.8M from gaming revenue when COVID shut down those operations. 36,000 members only produced $7.5M in 2020. We need to increase our membership by 30% just to stay where we were. All pigs are fuelled and ready to fly. -
Exactly.....and what would have happened if a genuine concussion had happened after Silvagni or Vlaustin had been subbed? No replacement then....which was the whole point of a concussion sub. Hocking and Gil should be ashamed and it only took the first game to show how it would be scammed. But then Clarkson with his meagre list needed to find a way to get another player on the ground when they run out of legs in the final quarter.
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Demonland Podcast Featuring Gary Pert
george_on_the_outer replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
Can he give us an update on the state of our Sponsorships, particularly post-Covid. -
That's the problem with this proposal. It isn't any different to any other injury. And we don't have subs while potential knee testing is done by the doctors. Just watch the player with a knee, leg, hamstring suddenly doing a concussion test as well, so that the sub can be used.
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800 signed up since Thursday. Probably with skeleton staff due to AFL restrictions.
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Next Generation Academy 2021
george_on_the_outer replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
We finally have some decent numbers to develop instead of 1's and 2's. Is Jacob Sengstock related to Larry Sengstock, Australian Basketballer from the 70's? -
Last week moved up the ground, and as a ruck relief. ...finally. Then Daisy moved to FF, someone who can kick goals and take marks, rather than being wasted on the HB line. Adelaide will be hard to beat, but if they can, the Demons will be a game clear in the 6 as Bulldogs are playing North this week.
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Latest update in table above, with comparison back to 2011. A bit ahead of 2020 at this stage, but behind 2019, not surprisingly
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Membership Year 2021 2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011 1st game 20/3 H 22/3 A 23/3 H 25/3 H 25/3 A 25/3 H 4/4 H 22/3 A 31/3 H 31/3 H 27/3 H Oct week 3 19,068 21 15,211 20 21,980 22 19,026 26 16,654 22 17,625 25 Nov week 3 20,215 21 25,028 22 26,064 18 23,037 26 20,509 26 20,223 25 - 16,287 11,922 Dec week 1 28,005 7 30,096 7 28,354 07 27,914 9 24,402 4 22,433 3 22,105 11 18,217 3 18,747 2 17,541 3 Dec week 3 28,447 21 31,759 21 29,053 22 29,426 23 26,217 22 24,097 23 23,542 25 20,623 20,166 Jan week 3 29,764 21 33,226 21 30,068 19 30,200 20 27,027 19 25,112 23 24,558 21 21,873 22,402 22,396 Feb week 1 30,141 7 34,327 7 30,577 2 31,141 3 28,013 3 25,647 1 25,416 4 22,962 8 23,422 23,457 Feb week 2 32,157 14 35,148 14 31,310 14 31,537 10 28,759 17 26,290 12 26,039 12 23,650 12 21,448 12 Feb week 3 32,954 21 32,735 21 36,070 21 32,075 21 32,137 17 29,217 24 26,639 18 26,641 17 23,650 18 24,195 16 25,253 17 Feb week 4 33,458 28 32,985 28 36,973 28 32,948 28 32,679 24 29,450 26 27,066 26 27,736 26 - 25,277 Mar week 1 35,874 7 35,726 7 37,979 7 34,034 7 33,520 3 30,524 7 27,619 4 28,582 4 24,801 5 26,023 27,806 Mar week 2 37,083 14 36,063 14 39,537 14 34,691 14 35,080 16 32,623 16 29,510 16 30,421 15 26,751 14 26,791 14 28,068 Mar week 3 41,055 21 37,571 21 41,513 21 36,513 21 35,756 21 33,146 21 30,257 21 - - Mar week 4 41,325 28 37,888 28 44,008 28 38,089 28 37,025 28 35,117 26 31,035 26 32,324 28 - 29,588 31,087 Apr week 1 42,088 7 38,115 7 45,537 7 39,402 7 38,554 7 35,535 1 32,001 1 - - 32,235 33,359 Apr week 2 43,421 14 38,246 14 46,133 14 40,160 14 39,005 14 36,157 8 33,301 9 33,175 14 - - 33,753 10 Apr week 3 44,934 21 38,286 21 47,174 21 40,557 21 39,281 21 36,731 20 - 34,548 20 Apr week 4 46,093 28 38,431 28 48,080 28 40,636 28 39,634 28 37,597 30 34,068 29 May week 1 46,896 7 38,521 7 49,837 7 41,640 7 40,083 7 37,766 6 34,352 7 35,205 5 - 34,489 35,205 May week 2 46,896 14 38,591 14 50,107 14 41,825 14 40,380 14 38,102 13 - - - 34,961 May week 3 48,784 21 38,673 21 50,422 21 42,057 21 40,549 21 38,327 23 34,871 20 May week 4 48,784 28 38,673 28 50,520 28 42,352 28 40,749 28 38,479 31 35,017 22 June week 1 50,085 7 38,766 7 51,770 7 43,593 7 40,934 7 38,547 6 Jun Week 2 50,085 14 38,985 14 51,770 14 43,791 14 41,022 14 38,653 14 - - 35,403 Final July 30 53,188 39,774 52,405 44,191 42,102 39,211 35,953 35,911 33,177 35,345 36,937 Post 31 July 40,531 52,446 45,178 42,233 2021 Progressive total in Red Actual dates in Blue Date of first game of season Home or Away
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It was and the current board dismissed it at the time, in favour of MCG precinct. OD is correct. No other options are or have been considered. 12 months was wasted on a plan for the MCG car park. Anyone who lives in Melbourne knows the East Melbourne residents wouldn’t allow that. Same as Stonnington council for Toorak Park.