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...."Without concrete interest beyond those two teams" says it all really.

As long as it's not Findlay, Williamson or Chamberlain......or Nichols ( but then Hawthorn aren't playing)

Chez George:

More Elwood:

Not talking about capital gains tax. Talking only about capital gains. You can only crystallise those if you sell. Otherwise they provide no cash, unlike the pokies.(Not in favour of them) we forewent renewing the pokies licence at Bentleigh club from August 2022. We lose the $1m +per year of profit. That is what we have to replace just to stay where we are today. The problem is how do you generate the same level of return without substantial risk.

Darren Burgess.....We have and have had essentially a full list to choose from all season, which has got us to this point.

And that is the challenge. A 6% return is required to just hold us in the same position as we were with the gaming venues. Or in simple terms a dividend equivalent to 6%. Capital gains doesn't put food on the table, which is what the club needs....just to stay where we are at the moment. A mighty big ask over the long term.

People need to read this again and again. He has been on the list for 6 years and has never kicked more than 20 goals. He has no other capability than a FF. He is being held out of the team by TMac and BBB who is signed on for another 3 years. We have 3 years to find another second stringer ( or first). Giving Weid another year means we are another year behind finding what we want. Just cut the losses, or we finish with another Jack Watts or Colin Sylvia scenario.

Very Impressive ADF!! And thanks for your contribution to the Podcast.

Simples.....We are in quarantine. We can't have contact with outsiders. So in order to run full match practice we have taken the whole squad. So Hore, Majak, Chandler, Jones, Bradtke etc are all there.

That is correct. I checked out the replay last week. I think there were 4 goals kicked in 2 min 40sec of play.

Absolutely. The opportunities don't get any better than this year. WE finished top of the ladder. WE are the best side in the competition. We have a full list available to play. This is it.

GWS have said they will not appeal. Titan is correct the AFL should appeal under the 4th ground. The penalty is so obviously not adequate for a repeat offender. If you go to Court after your 22 appearance and 7th imprisonment you don't get a slap on the wrist, after being found guilty.

One of the guys in this isn’t bad either…..wonder what became of him?

There is no room for this kind of action and the AFL rules means Greene is off to the Tribunal, no MRO needed: From this article in the Age: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/there-is-no-defence-for-it-grand-final-umpire-calls-for-greene-suspension-20210829-p58mua.html "The AFL tribunal guidelines state that “contact with an umpire that is aggressive, forceful, demonstrative or disrespectful” will be classified as intentional, and therefore the player will be directly referred to the tribunal". The AFL knows they have to come down hard on Toby, because they won't have any umpires showing up at all manner of competitions next year.

The central controlling umpire at the time was Stevic. He didn't call Gus's "indescretion" same as he didn't call Selwoods. Fleer was the forward umpire who should never have even made the call against Gus, as it wasn't in his controlling area ( apart from being blatantly wrong).

How could they possibly give us Fleer (26) again this week after that appalling "no intent" OOB against Gus?

I think this conjecture is simply a journalists stuff up confusing one car park with another. The logical solution is carpark F. It is bigger, on the right side and is easy to access for redevelopment. The redevelopment will be a consequence of the 2023 Womens soccer world cup. I suspect they will need indoor warm up facilities, press rooms, team meeting rooms etc. At the end of the competition, we will take up residence.. Only my conjecture, but.... .....

Played one game this year. Two sets of surgery on his back. 30 years of age. Still contracted until end 2022. Why do people think Hawthorn is willing to let him go? If he was serviceable, they would be keeping him next year. Lewis, Hodge, Bruest were all useful in young teams which needed leadership. Now that those teams are contenders you don't need those types any more. We don't need to be doing the Hawks any favours.

Good chance we will be taking a large contingent: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/cats-dees-to-go-to-perth-as-afl-waits-on-grand-final-confirmation-20210825-p58lsb.html Probably going to be away for 3 weeks, and will need others to train with at least.

Called twice last night for throwing the ball....the umpires have finally been told/caught up/opened their eyes to what has been going on for the past couple of years.

Plus the $50,000 that Harley Bennell caused us to lose this year.....we can afford to employ a few more....

We were completely shot at the 3/4 time break. Travis had the ball on a string, but was out on his feet. All we had to do was hang on, and Daniher left Darren Jolly on the bench for the final quarter. We just needed a big body at CHB to stop the marks the Crows were taking there.

1. Tassie cannot financially support a team on their own. They need about $40 to $50M p.a. and currently their government is throwing in only $8M to the Hawks and North. Their population is smaller than some suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney. 2. Gold Coast get about $30M from the AFL to operate. It is not an expansion market. It is not a growth area like GWS. People go there for the weather, and unless they are ex-Melbournites, locals aren't interested. I would invite people to go to a Metricon game and see for themselves. However, as an 18th team it is essential for TV. It just doesn't need to be located there. 3. North have painted themselves into a corner. Their fierce opposition to moving to the GC years ago has cemented that position. However, they have nearly cleared their debt, despite a complete lack of serious income. It WOULD be financially sensible and provide a bigger future for them in Tassie, but they won't do it. 4. St.Kilda are in serious trouble. They are at least $10M in debt ( not a problem today with current interest rates), and receive the highest distribution from the AFL. If the AFL were to reduce this lifeline, it wouldn't be long until they have to do something like a move to Tassie. 5. For the AFL they hold the cards. Cut the losses on GC and provide $20M to support a team in Tassie rather than $30M in GC. Or cut the lifeline to the Saints and let them wither, or make them an offer similar to what was made to North years ago when GC was touted. Clear the debt...ongoing support of $20M p.a.....Southern Saints.....access to Tasmanian players exclusively. Finally, there are no Kangaroos ( the hopping variety) in Tasmania.

Something has to fall out of the GWS tree this year. Signing Kelly to multi year $M contract along with Greene, Coniglio and Whitfield, means there is not much left on the table other than scraps.....something has to give.